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DOJ to Florida: Don't You Dare Clean Up Your Voter Rolls
Townhall.com ^ | June 2, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/02/2012 8:36:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

A simple way to help prevent voter fraud and election abuse is for states to purge voter rolls. What does this mean? Getting rid of names on voter rolls of people ineligible to vote such as illegal aliens, dead people, duplicates, etc. For nearly a year, Florida election officials have asked the Department of Homeland Security for access to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement database in order to take illegal aliens and non-citizens off Florida voter rolls. Not surprisingly, DHS has been dragging its feet and has yet to comply with the request and now, the Department of Justice is stepping into the purging process and ordering Florida, a vital swing state, to stop.

The Justice Department sent a letter to Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner Thursday evening demanding the state cease purging its voting rolls because the process it is using has not been cleared under the Voting Rights Act, TPM has learned.

DOJ also said that Florida’s voter roll purge violated the National Voter Registration Act, which stipulates that voter roll maintenance should have ceased 90 days before an election, which given Florida’s August 14 primary, meant May 16.

Five of Florida’s counties are subject to the Voting Rights Act, but the state never sought permission from either the Justice Department or a federal court to implement its voter roll maintenance program.

But who is really behind the letter? Mean radical DOJ attorney Elise Shore. Christian Adams has more:

What do we know about Elise Shore from the installment about the Voting Section?

    Elise Shore. Ms. Shore came to the Voting Section by way of the “Southern Coalition for Social Justice,” where she worked as a legal consultant focusing on “voting rights, immigrant rights, and other civil rights and social justice issues.” The far left-wing positions of this group are nicely summarized on its website. Ms. Shore also made a $1,000 contribution to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

    Before joining the Southern Coalition for Social Justice, she worked for more than two years as a Regional Counsel for MALDEF [Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund]. There, she was an outspoken critic of Georgia’s voter ID law and well as its proof of citizenship requirements for voter registration (which, incidentally, have been found to be non-discriminatory by a federal court) and described how heartened she was that the Civil Rights Division had objected to the registration law under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. But her joy must have been fleeting: the Division later capitulated and withdrew its objection after Georgia filed a federal declaratory judgment action. It will be interesting to see if Shore can put her politics to the side in her role as the Voting Section’s point of contact for all redistricting submissions in the state of Florida.

FLASHBACK: Florida says at least 180,000 non-citizens sitting on voter rolls

Florida election authorities are examining about 180,000 people who they say may not be U.S. citizens but are registered to vote in the state, an official said on Friday.

State officials are updating Florida's voter rolls ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November. Florida is home to a large Latino population and is expected to be a critical swing state in the contest between Democratic President Barack Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Officials in Florida have so far identified more than 2,600 potential voters who may not be U.S. citizens and sent their information to local election authorities, Cate said.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; fl; florida; tyranny
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To: Gaffer

I agree . . . tell Holder and his Department of [In]Justice to go - - - k themselves.


21 posted on 06/02/2012 9:48:12 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Kaslin

If the same voter rolls are used for State elections, why can’t they clean the rolls up for those elections? Can they help it if the lists are the same????


22 posted on 06/02/2012 9:50:22 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: RC2
Does not the Constitution state that it is up to the states to control their own voting laws?

Exactly. Every Secretary of State of each of the 50 States, charged with their particular state's voting laws and elections, should immediately join together in a lawsuit against this corrupt AG and his illegal and racist Dept. of INjustice for this attack on their state rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

23 posted on 06/02/2012 10:11:51 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RC2

Umm, no. Slaves never got the right to vote. After the Civil War, *ex* slaves got the right to vote. And they voted as overwhelmingly Republican (at least until the New Deal) as blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat today. Governments in Democrat-controlled states, especially (but not exclusively) in the South, spent the better part of the next century coming up with schemes to supress the black vote (such as “literacy” tests, poll taxes, etc.). None of those things exist anymore, so the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ and the professional race-grievance industry have to make up “violations” by states, counties and towns that, for example, adopt nonpartisan elections or require ID cards for voters.


24 posted on 06/02/2012 10:14:34 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: RC2

Uh, no. During Reconstruction, southern blacks unanimously voted Republican. Blacks didn’t begin voting Democrat until the 1930s, and the didn’t really shift totally away from the Republicans until the 1950s and 1960s.


25 posted on 06/02/2012 10:30:22 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: seekthetruth

DONE...sent an email to Gov. Scott supporting their efforts to get rid of voter fraud. Holder is going nuts. Obama cannot win without fraud and they know it.


26 posted on 06/02/2012 10:41:25 AM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: DefeatCorruption
The State of Florida should send a letter back to the DOin-J that they have already identified those who shouldn't legally be on the rolls, and that in all future elections these names will be cross-checked and challenged. Holder is a racist driven by his inner anger.
27 posted on 06/02/2012 11:20:22 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Kaslin

This all started when they found illegal aliens were registered to vote but when called to jury duty they begged-off claiming that since they weren’t citizens they couldn’t perform jury duty.

Of course, Obama and the Holder Justice Department approve of vote fraud which is why only Democrats are the ones convicted for vote fraud.


28 posted on 06/02/2012 11:47:28 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Kaslin

This all started when they found illegal aliens were registered to vote but when called to jury duty they begged-off claiming that since they weren’t citizens they couldn’t perform jury duty.

Of course, Obama and the Holder Justice Department approve of vote fraud which is why only Democrats are the ones convicted for vote fraud.


29 posted on 06/02/2012 11:47:36 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: knarf

You might want to send this along too - it’s a video of ‘some white guy’ asking for Eric Holder’s ballot... and how happy the poll worker is to hand it off... Funny - very funny. And true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw


30 posted on 06/02/2012 2:24:24 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: All
We have entered strange and dangerous times. Third World radicalism---- calculated to undermine US ntl security---- has metastasized into open-borders US public policy. Not only does the USDOJ stop states from enforcing illegal immigration laws, the DOJ is forcing Florida to keep non-citizens on voter rolls.

Meet the Radical DOJ Lawyer Forcing Florida to Keep Foreigners on the Voter Rolls: "Elise Shore" is just one of her identities---and she's dressed like she has a night job on the DC streets.

THIS IS HER STORY----She came to the Voting Section by way of the “Southern Coalition for Social Justice,” where she worked as a legal consultant focusing on “voting rights, immigrant rights, and other civil rights and social justice issues” ........ and worked using several identities to pocket multiple paychecks.

Under one identity---as "Ms. Shore" --- she contributed $1000 to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

Before joining the Southern Coalition for Social Justice, Shore worked for more than two years as a Regional Counsel for MALDEF [Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund] as an outspoken critic of Georgia’s voter ID law and well as its proof of citizenship requirements for voter registration (which, incidentally, have been found to be non-discriminatory by a federal court).

She's said how heartened she was that the US Civil Rights Division had objected to the registration law under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. But her joy must have been fleeting: the Division later capitulated and withdrew its objection after Georgia filed a federal declaratory judgment action.

It will be interesting to see if "Shore" can calm her salivating Third World taskmasters---and put her politics to the side in her role as the US Voting Section’s point of contact for all redistricting submissions in the state of Florida.

NOTE WELL "Ms. Shore" wasn’t able to set aside her obeisance to the third World----and her MALDEF-style radicalism-----even after she started working for the US govt, and got paid by the taxpayers of the United States.

31 posted on 06/02/2012 3:14:04 PM PDT by Liz
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To: seekthetruth
We are going to remove ALL deceased citizens from our FL Voting rolls, ALL illegals from our Voting rolls and make sure that ONLY LIVING AMERINC CITIZENS VOTE IN FLORIDA!

i'd recommend a small tweak: We are going to remove ALL deceased citizens from our FL Voting rolls, ALL illegals from our Voting rolls and make sure that ONLY LIVING AMERICAN CITIZENS, HAVING FLORIDA AS THEIR LEGAL RESIDENCE, VOTE IN FLORIDA!

32 posted on 06/02/2012 3:14:44 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: All
FLORIDA OFFICIALS SHOULD BE VERY VERY ALARMED---vote crazed US politicans will do anything to get illegal votes "Third World voting blocs" organized by salivating federales are conniving pressure groups---pulling a con to get billion dollar foreign aid allocations.

THE PUTATIVE "VOTERS" ARE USING MULTIPLE IDENTITIES. There's loads of parasitic ID brokers selling fake ID's to "impoverished" border violators for several thousand dollars each. Juan Madrigal--the Wash/state rapist--- had some 30 identities. Another illegal used multiple identities to bilk UI of several million dollars. Two illegals---that equals some 40-50 votes (/snix)

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REFERENCE The phony "just here for a better life" crowd who freely violate our borders and "do the jobs Americans won't do" have more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably votes and collects US benefits under every single identity.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

33 posted on 06/02/2012 3:15:13 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Gaffer
It is now time for states to ignore FedGov™ and secede.any instructions from the Department of Justice, period. Enough open disregard and this DOJ becomes the racist joke that it really is

Fixed

34 posted on 06/02/2012 3:19:41 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: seekthetruth; All
IMHO, Rick Scott is one of the greatest Governors we have had here in FLa.He here in the Keys a few weeks ago and was up on all the issues we have down here from hundred million dollar Federally mandated sewage projects to outrageous hurricane insurance bills.

This guy is a straight shooter and surrounds himself with good people as well.

In South Fla. alone the third worlders have been playing the system for all they can get from insurance fraud to illegal voters by the zillion for years now.If he can clean up any of it many of us will be forever indebted to him and his staff.

35 posted on 06/02/2012 3:49:22 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: DefeatCorruption
Obama cannot win without fraud and they know it.

Had to be repeated, this is the bottom line no question.Just a matter of whether its 3% or 6%.At 6% we are in jeopardy of losing an election,3% may not be enough.

36 posted on 06/02/2012 3:52:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Kaslin; Joe Brower; MinuteGal
Easy solution. Keep a list of the names purged and reason why for two years. If one of the individuals comes in to vote, they use a “provisional” ballot that remains sealed until the provide the documentation rectifying the problem.Voter has ten business days after the election to clear the discrepancy.

We've been doing that here for a couple of years....Surprising how many people are now telling us people who no longer are qualified and helping to get the books cleaned up.

37 posted on 06/02/2012 3:56:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or lying then?)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
So what happens if the State of Florida just ignores the Justice Department and keeps on purging the voter rolls?

There is a reason the Feds give the states gazillions of dollars every year. So they stay in line or lose their funds.

38 posted on 06/02/2012 3:59:20 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: sten

Thanks for that tweak! Perfect. I need to correct a typo I see too!

We are going to remove ALL deceased citizes from our FL Voting rolls, ALL illegals from our Voting rolls and make sure that ONLY LIVING AMERICAN CITIZENS,HAVING FLORIDA AS THEIR LEGAL RESIDENCE, VOTE IN FLORIDA!


39 posted on 06/02/2012 9:28:23 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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