Skip to comments.Salt, we misjudged you
Posted on 06/03/2012 7:37:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
THE first time I questioned the conventional wisdom on the nature of a healthy diet, I was in my salad days, almost 40 years ago, and the subject was salt. Researchers were claiming that salt supplementation was unnecessary after strenuous exercise, and this advice was being passed on by health reporters.
When I spent the better part of a year researching the state of the salt science back in 1998 already a quarter century into the eat-less-salt recommendations journal editors and public health administrators were still remarkably candid in their assessment of how flimsy the evidence was implicating salt as the cause of hypertension.
You can say without any shadow of a doubt, as I was told then by Drummond Rennie, an editor for The Journal of the American Medical Association, that the authorities pushing the eat-less-salt message had made a commitment to salt education that goes way beyond the scientific facts.
While, back then, the evidence merely failed to demonstrate that salt was harmful, the evidence from studies published over the past two years actually suggests that restricting how much salt we eat can increase our likelihood of dying prematurely. Put simply, the possibility has been raised that if we were to eat as little salt as the U.S.D.A. and the C.D.C. recommend, wed be harming rather than helping ourselves.
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It's been that way for tens of thousands of years.
Overdo either, and you might die. But do without salt, fat, or water, and you die pretty darn quick.
Reduced salt could be the reason why people are getting fat. Ya never know.
Our grandparents and forefathers ate all kinds of greasy, fat and salt laden food. The fact that they actually worked and exercised helped them deal with it, not to mention all the chemical crap we eat these days isn’t helping.
The Lord, My God, says EVERYTHING in moderation. Figure it out!
Add Beer to that list!
Good! Now I won’t have to add as much meat to my salt.
“If you don’t eat salt, and you don’t eat fat... you will die.”
My Doctor gave me the best advice a guy raised on Southern Fried Cooking ever heard in a Doctor’s office: Eat more salt!
I gave up eating canned and processed foods years ago simply because I wanted to eat fresher stuff and enjoy cooking, hence, I wasn’t getting any sodium (salt) from those sources. The Doc’s advice was such a nice windfall. I add salt like a madman now. No repercussions!
Be dashed if I'd like to try it.... but in theory, it is possible.
Moderation is relative. What’s the “moderate” limit on methamphetamine?
you should check this out
Used to bring my own salt shaker to one friend’s dinner events. Things are better now. Maybe because they’ve been convinced Sea Salt is healthier than Plain Old Salt.
All right, THAT DOES IT! I’m going to start using salt again on things I used to enjoy putting salt on:
Fresh whole tomatoes
green onions (scallions for you New Englanders)
There was a minor power struggle, and I ate more salt, and got my fresh H2O.
They said it was a 'socialogical problem because the subject doesn't eat foods from grocery stores, like most patients'
They also said I would die if left on my own after their attentions. That didn't happen either. Ask anyone here on FR that I've irritated recently. I'm still here, baby!
Seems a lot of people misjudged Salt!!
After reading your post, I have a craving for an extra large bag of heavily salted and buttered movie popcorn! Mmmmm! I think I’d like to wash it down with a bucket sized, ice cold Dr. Pepper. Take that, Nanny Bloomberg!
Just because one CAN do something, doesn’t mean one SHOULD.
And bananas too. The potassium in the `nanners takes the sodium chloride by the ears and boxes them into submission.
When I die, I'll die. But I'll die not bitter about the years I gave up to someone's idea of what I should eat.
I'll eat what I damn well please. My body will 'splain me what I shouldn't do anymore. Point in case is the jalpenos out of the garden that are fresh and sweet and have zero heat...... going in.
I tip-toe around the jalapenos this year... because they are good, but they hurt on the far end.
You forgot to mention the radioactive part of potassium.... It will break down eventually.
Of course, I don't worry about that either, because, even though it is radioactive, it's not bad.
Our ancestors knew....
The salt content of our foods is not the problem. The saline content of your blood is regulated by the adrenal gland, not by how much bacon, pickles, or other salty foods you eat. Any excess salt is simply eliminated from your system in your urine. In other words excess salt does not cause hypertension, it is caused by hypertension.
As for the fats you eat, you need fats. Besides being a source of energy, they provide the fundamental building blocks for all of your hormones and regulatory chemicals.
You need salt, you need fat and several other essential nutrients and minerals.
Reduced salt could be the reason why people are getting fat. Ya never know.
The reason people get fat is that they eat too much. One pound equals about 3600 calories. If you don’t work it off you get to keep it with you. If you multiply your weight by 10 that is approximately how many calories you work off each day if you are an average person.
If you weigh 200 lbs then your normal body burns up 2000 calories. If you eat 2100 calories a day you will gain a pound every 36 days. If you eat 1900 calories a day you will lose a pound every 36 days. These are not exact numbers and some days you burn more calories than others but these numbers are pretty reliable.
People say their hormones make them fat, it runs in the family or they are big boned and can’t help it, but none of that is true. Hormones can make you hungry, medicines can make you hungry even heredity can make you hungry but how much you put in your mouth is what determines how much you weigh.
In theory..... and theory is to practice as practice is to theory.... one CAN survive without beer.
How many adrenal glands do we have? And how many do I have, after losing a kidney?
And do you believe that the organism can adapt to injury and guide the organism (me)?
Used to bring my own salt shaker to one friends dinner events. Things are better now. Maybe because theyve been convinced Sea Salt is healthier than Plain Old Salt.
Hold up your shaker and say...
Sounds good—I’ll have to try salt on bananas.
Of course if a budding Salt Rebellion breaks out, Moochelle will have a kanipchen fit.
Granted... It's not for normal people, but in theory, it is possible. In theory. ;)
Right. There are also “documented” reports of mermaids, sea serpents and rational liberals.
I've heard that but I don't know if I believe it.
That would not surprise me in the slightest.
That is why the monks in the 17th century took their bock beers of the day and kicked it up a notch, by adding more grain to help them survive their extended fasts.
But I get your point.
I think that the fact we drink so much purified water deprives us of minerals, including salt.
If we use idodized salt with natural minerals left in, might not eat so much trying to get in food what we used to get in regular tap or well water.
The amount required to clear my sinuses. Thankyouverymuch.
Those 'bad drugs' like methampetamies and heroin were invented to solve real problems.
When they are used wrongly, they can cause problems.
But keeping me from using either, if I need them (don't expect me to use the morphine dervitive, they make me itch), is evil.
smoke’em if you got’em
I have low blood pressure for no good reason other than I inherited it from my dad.
I have salt in my diet - although I don’t have a habit of shaking it on my food.
Even when I packed on the pounds during my pregnancies...low blood pressure.
If I stand up too quickly in the morning I see stars.
And if you choose to go without beer, I'll gladly report on the results of that, unless it gets too ugly.
I have to have salt, or I cramp up into a ball. To help counter all the salt I eat, I take potassium.
My sis has the same disorder, she discovered it on the internet after the doctor blamed her for being a pill popper. She knew something was wrong with her. and her research paid off.
>>if you are an average person.<<
Let me tell you, when you work in medicine and see how different chemicals effect each body differently, you’ll wake up.
I’ve seen patients take steroids and gain weight without reduction in activity or increase in calories.
Come on into 2012, you’re stuck in 1970.
Di-dah-dit. Firing up. And the tobacco in the garden is doing well.
>>My edconologist said there is an absolute corollary with the increase of thyroid issues and the reduction of iodized salt.<<
That makes sense.
When doctors say to cut back on salt, the first thing anyone gets rid of is the salt shaker with the added iodine.
A few unfortunate folks can keep the blubber on with a calorie regimen that would slim most people way down. They genuinely do have slower metabolism. This is the crowd that has resorted to such things as stomach stapling and lap bands. On the other extreme some have a lot of a special fat that burns calories as heat, an adaptation that has worked well for Eskimo peoples. But the “mushy middle” is generally too well wined and dined.
I do prefer my butter without salt, and my salt without iodine.
I'll add my own salt, thankyouverymuch.