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Romney names former Utah gov. to lead potential transition [Polygamy rearing ugly head]
CNN ^ | June 4, 2012

Posted on 06/04/2012 8:06:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

Mitt Romney has named former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt to lead his presidential transition team should he win November's general election, the Republican presidential candidate's campaign confirmed Monday.

-SNIP-

Leavitt, Romney's pick to lead a potential transition, was elected governor of Utah in 1992, and went on to hold the office for ten years. He was governor of the state when Romney headed the Salt Lake City Olympic Organizing Committee in 2002.

In 2003 Leavitt was nominated by President George W. Bush to serve as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. He later became Bush's Secretary of Health and Human Services.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: leavitt; mormon; polygamy; romney; romney2012; romney2decide4u; romneyagenda; romneymarriage
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To: RitaOK

Romney is not a nominal mormon.
He holds a temple recommendation (TR), only 15% or so of mormons make it to that high level.
There actually is nothing in Romney’s liberalism that is contrary to his mormonism.
Romney’s family has been in the hierarchy of mormonism since its foundation and he quite frequently refers to believing in and supporting the faith of his fathers.


41 posted on 06/04/2012 11:07:18 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39

vomit.....


42 posted on 06/04/2012 11:09:46 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Save our country..I want that Obamanation and his administration VOTED OUT.


43 posted on 06/04/2012 11:18:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So letting a guy amass dozens of wives would assuage his lust which would otherwise tempt him to prostitution, hm? What about HER desires? What about the attention the kids need, having to share that dad?

I WANNA MARRY MY TOMCAT! WAAAAAA!


44 posted on 06/04/2012 1:27:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

I very much doubt that Mitt would bring America a group of First Ladies.


45 posted on 06/04/2012 1:28:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Huh?


46 posted on 06/04/2012 1:46:45 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: greyfoxx39

What a moronic, out of context, ancient history bunch of crap. Crawl back under your slimy rock. Bet you’re a troll for soros!


47 posted on 06/04/2012 1:52:13 PM PDT by Curmudgeon2K (Soros troll?)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"What caused him to comment on polygamy ???

It's of interest to a few dozen kooks on this site.

48 posted on 06/04/2012 1:56:16 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: txrangerette; greyfoxx39; Cincinatus' Wife; Tennessee Nana
David Leavitt became and remains a lightning rod for polygamy issues because of:

Leavitt was Governor of Utah, having sworn to uphold the Constitution and laws of the State of Utah, when he gave a press conference on July 23, 1998, and was asked about the felony child abuse prosecution of John Daniel Kingston that was then ongoing and in the headlines.

Kingston was accused of beating his 16-year-old daughter with a belt when she balked at becoming the fifteenth wife of Kingston's brother. Although Kingston, a polygamist, was being tried for felony child abuse, neither Kingston, nor his brother, were being prosecuted for polygamy. Kingston was leader of a break-off fundamentalist Mormon sect, clearly not the LDS.

Anti-polygamy groups were publicly and vocally outraged that no polygamy charges had been brought and the Kingston matter was a major public and political issue in Utah.

Leavitt was asked in the news conference why Utah didn't prosecute polygamy. In addition to the comment that it may be a religious freedom (despite there being a famous U.S. Supreme Court case to the contrary when the LDS Church was fighting against federal prohibitions against polygamy, Reynolds v. U.S., one that any Utah lawyer or politician should know), Leavitt didn't leave the matter there.

He acknowledged that Utah didn't prosecute polygamy. He suggested it was a matter of consenting adults (and many here on FR will agree). He answered questions about polygamy for approximately four minutes before announcing he would answer no more. Among his comments, he said:

"It's clear to me in this state and many others, they have chosen not to aggressively prosecute it. I assume there is a legal reason for that. I think it goes well beyond tradition. What needs to be cracked down on, if there is to be such a crackdown, is any abuses of peoples' civil and human rights."

All of that - with the religious rights soundbite - is what caught national attention.

Leavitt later backtracked on the religious rights statement, however, he never issued orders to begin a prosecution of polygamy. In fact, there never was one. To this day, the official website of the Utah Attorney General states that Utah and Arizona have chosen to deal with child abuse and welfare cheating from polygamy, rather than polygamy itself. Again, my assumption is many on FR will agree with that stance.

However, Leavitt swore to uphold the Utah Constitution, which prohibits polygamy. He swore to uphold Utah laws, which prohibit polygamy. He was forced into the spotlight on polygamy, and the fact that Utah does not prosecute polygamy, because of a particularly noteworthy case and press conference.

Once he learned that he was wrong about the religious grounds . . . his choice was apparently to let the polygamy continue.

That's why he's viewed as the poster boy for political polygamy. Not that he's practicing it - but that moreso than any other Utah governor, he was put on the spot to police the prohibition and he chose not to do so, for what that's worth.

Was he sticking up for libertarianism and civil rights? Was he being a political pragmatist in a state that doesn't want a polygamist history spotlighted, now matter how? Call it as you see it.

49 posted on 06/04/2012 2:07:16 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I very much doubt that Mitt would bring America a group of First Ladies.

It's not going to happen, but if it did? Right now the country has a lot more to worry about than that.

50 posted on 06/04/2012 2:21:12 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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"The fact that our constitution requires the state to prohibit polygamy does not necessarily mean that the state must deny any or all civil rights and privileges to polygamists." Chief Justice of the Utah Supreme Court
51 posted on 06/04/2012 2:24:05 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: RitaOK; Cincinatus' Wife; greyfoxx39

I am aware that Leavitt has big government-itus problems.

What would anyone expect of a top Romney pick? This is why Perry and we his original supporters called Mitt “ObamaLite”.

My points are two: this appt. by Romney isn’t about Polygamy, one.

And two, misguided as lib RINOS are, they aren’t the same as the Obamanoids who despise this nation and are determined to destroy it and replace it with unspeakable horror.

We have to deal with BOTH.

Obama and minions should have no power over this nation, but frighteningly, right now they do, and they will for years more unless they are defeated.

Romney must be held to account by true, patriotic, conservative constitutionalists.

Elect as many conservatives as possible to every office, and stay on their case to stay on Romney’s case.

I myself have not voted for Romney and don’t plan to. But I have the blessing to live in a state that will vote ABO without my vote.

But there are wonderful Americans in certain swing states, and I see them and say, there but for the grace of God go I.

I won’t attack any American who decides they have to get Obama out and voting Romney is the only way.

It’s a conscience vote. Person by person, state by state.


52 posted on 06/04/2012 3:34:33 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thanks for the documentation, SM.


53 posted on 06/04/2012 3:35:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: Curmudgeon2K

I’ve been a FReeper for a whole lot longer than you have. Stick your nastiness in your ear...or somewher more appropriate...Romney troll!


54 posted on 06/04/2012 3:49:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: txrangerette

You are correct about conscience motivations.

Speaking only for myself, I am able to be radical for a near repellent degree of faith in God, leaving me unafraid of the consequences of utter and complete resistance to the GOPE. Whatever wrecks the establishment, I’m FOR, including Ron Paul’s best effort, or Third Party, or Obama 2.0.

Obviously, the Republicans need to lose to win. If it takes Obama 2.0, then it’s a small price to pay to wake America up, crush the socialist Republican Party who have melled with the Democrat Party to destroy us all, and try to pick up the ashes and restore the Republic. The GOPE have been successful in the role of Pavlov playing to us voters, we complicit dogs. It’s war now.


55 posted on 06/04/2012 4:56:38 PM PDT by RitaOK (No Romney! Few are unafraid, but I thank God for the few. We are the resistance.)
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To: RitaOK

Sounds like a plan!


56 posted on 06/04/2012 6:10:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


57 posted on 06/04/2012 6:11:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

if Romney were elected, will we all have to become polygamists, like the FLDS? So will gays have to marry more than one woman as well, since Romney would not want the law to discriminate against any minority, would he? Yes, a woman, because more than one husband is polandry.

these self righteous religious intolerants on FR cannot accept the possibility of a mormon president. Heaven forbid. they’d rather have the Muslim-in-hiding: BO.

God save America from 4 more years of BO.


58 posted on 06/04/2012 6:22:21 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“No one will accuse Mormons of hating the United States and American exceptionalism.”

But what they fear even more than having a second term for our current America-first-nevermore Prez is that a mormon might be elected President. somehow that fear doesn’t seem to extend to a 2nd term for the Muslim-in-hiding we now have in the White House. God save America from 4 more years of BO.


59 posted on 06/04/2012 6:33:47 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“No one will accuse Mormons of hating the United States and American exceptionalism.”

But what they fear even more than having a second term for our current America-first-nevermore Prez is that a mormon might be elected President. somehow that fear doesn’t seem to extend to a 2nd term for the Muslim-in-hiding we now have in the White House. God save America from 4 more years of BO.


60 posted on 06/04/2012 6:39:18 PM PDT by IWONDR
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