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Holder Claims Emails Using Words ĎFast and Furiousí Donít Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
cnsnews.com ^ | June 07, 2012 | Matt Cover

Posted on 06/07/2012 12:48:01 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.

Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states: “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fandftestimony; fastandfurious; fastfurious; fbi; gunrunner; guns; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama
It's an outrage that the man who holds the highest law office in the land can tell a bold faced lie before members of Congress. What's worse, Congress refuses to hold this man accountable for supplying Mexican drug cartels with assault weapons resulting in the death of American border agents and countless Mexican citizens.

Why hasn't Obama forced Holder to resign? Is this constant climate of distrust in our own government part of Obama's strategy at undermining our Republic?

1 posted on 06/07/2012 12:48:13 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: All

Depends on what the meaning of “is”, is...


2 posted on 06/07/2012 12:50:19 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Eric Holder is a cowardly, racist, murdering SOB who deserves to die in a prison cell.


3 posted on 06/07/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Maybe the Republican members need to take a page from “Animal House” and start coughing “Bulls***” every time Holder tells a whopper. Might be hard on their voices though.


4 posted on 06/07/2012 12:55:52 PM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious”

I literally laughed out loud at this one. What a lying POS this Holder is!


5 posted on 06/07/2012 12:56:26 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; Nachum; LucyT

Thanks for posting this....saw the last part of the hearing....missed seeing this.


6 posted on 06/07/2012 12:58:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Simple solution to this:

Indict
Try
Convict
Execute

For capital murder. And the whole ATF too while they're at it.

7 posted on 06/07/2012 1:00:07 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Batman11

His lips are moving fast because he is furious.


8 posted on 06/07/2012 1:02:30 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Moderator, this is a duplicate thread. I noticed ‘Nachum’ already posted this. My apologies.


9 posted on 06/07/2012 1:08:06 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
It's almost like finding a man standing over a corpse with a smoking gun in his right hand.
The corpse has been shot once in each arm, once in each leg, and twice in the head.
The standing man holds a hand-wriiten note in his left hand.
The note says, "I will track you down. I will shoot you once in each arm, once in each leg, and twice in the head".

And the standing man says to the cops, "It's not what you think ..."

10 posted on 06/07/2012 1:13:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Obama needs more time. After all -- Rome wasn't burned in a day.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
If he can't answer who was in charge of Fast and Furious and who ordered the scheme than a contempt citation is in order.
11 posted on 06/07/2012 1:17:07 PM PDT by pasr (You are crazy,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

He sounds like a traffic stop on the TV show Cops!


12 posted on 06/07/2012 1:20:39 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: dblshot

Withholder will continue to lie and play what he considers his noble games because he is protecting Obama and according to his LIBERAL IDEALOGY he doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. Issa should keep up the pressure because this thing is bound to expode sooner or later, implementing not only WITHHOLDER, but OBAMA and his CABINET.


13 posted on 06/07/2012 1:22:40 PM PDT by spawn44 (mu)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

He’s just a really big Vin Diesel fan.


14 posted on 06/07/2012 1:23:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Just like the term “Global Governance” doesn’t mean “World Government.”


15 posted on 06/07/2012 1:27:10 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

And ‘Democrat’ doesn’t mean ‘Socialist’. /s


16 posted on 06/07/2012 1:45:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

What you goin’ to believe, me or your lying eyes?


17 posted on 06/07/2012 1:49:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I agree Holder should be impeached, dragged from office, his suit torn off him, and he thrown into the street for Police to arrest him as a vagrant.

However, does it help to leave him constantly be called before Congress to lie again and again? Pressing charges/indictments helps


18 posted on 06/07/2012 1:50:30 PM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“Our words mean what we say they mean”.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 1:53:47 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Of course I'm right. Sometimes I'm righter than others.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“E’s not dead, E’s just pining for the fjords”


20 posted on 06/07/2012 2:03:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; All

21 posted on 06/07/2012 2:08:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: cripplecreek

(Ping to #21)


22 posted on 06/07/2012 2:09:31 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: Obama In Serious Trouble – And That Makes Him Very Dangerous

UM:  Eric Holder

WHI:  Borrowed time.  Tough-tough-tough.  Smart.  You know…now don’t take this the wrong way here now…I come to respect him on some level.  Not saying I like the man – not in the least.  But he has managed to intimidate enough people…use the machine to his advantage…the guy is good.  Real good.  And that is horrible for the country.  That’s why I have been saying for – since we started this.  The guy has got to go.  Got to be forced out – removed…whatever.  I called him Obama’s firewall…long time ago. Right?  Day one that’s what I called him.  Obama’s firewall.  Jarrett’s firewall.  Jarrett has kept him in place.  Confirmed that.  There was a moment…last year.  Late last year.  Talks within the administration – they were getting heat from some of the boys on the Hill.  Wanted the bad P.R. that was surrounding the DOJ to be put to bed long before the election year stuff ramped up.  Take their licks and then move on.  So they wanted Eric Holder to step down.  Put a fresh face in there.

(Pause)

You mind if I go on about this for a bit?

UM:  Go ahead – please proceed.

WHI:  So…where was it?  Where was I?

UM:  Members of Congress wanted Holder gone.  Before the election year started.

WHI: Right – that’s it.  They – not a big group of them…but some big names.  Handful of them telling the White House…they were worried the hearings might catch on with the public…Fast and Furious – they didn’t want to contend with that situation during an election year.  So they wanted Holder out.  They made that clear – made it very clear to the White House.

…then Jarrett got word of it.  Real quick of course because almost everything that is to get to the president she approves of first.  I told you that – two years ago.  Before almost anyone even knew who the hell Valerie Jarrett was, right?  She is management in the White House.  She has the veto power over who gets in and who stays the f-ck out.  So she got word of these particular Democrats – a Senator in particular who the rest of them were hiding behind.  And she brought the wrath of God down on that poor bastard.  There was a meeting.  The two of them.  Face to face.  He was at the White House on something totally unrelated – but she had someone send him up to the second floor – her office upstairs.  The real West Wing in the Obama White House…and she absolutely destroyed a United States Senator and she didn’t give a sh-t who overheard it.  The man left her office…he was pale.  Shaking like-like one of them poor palsy bastards.

There had to have been a threat made.  On him. On his family.  Money.  Something.  And she must have made it absolutely clear to the guy she was not playing around.  And there has not been a word about Holder stepping down from those people since.  This Senator you see – the others were hiding behind him.  They figured he had enough…hell I woulda thought the same damn thing.  The guy is a f-cking institution.  She left him pale and shaking and once he backed off – the others went running for cover.

You ask me about Valerie F-cking Jarrett?  That’s Valerie Jarrett and her relationship to the Obama White House.  She IS the Obama White House.  Even Michelle defers to her – and that woman…she’s a hard unlikeable…I won’t use that word…but even she defers to Jarrett.

23 posted on 06/07/2012 2:11:21 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Why hasn't Obama forced Holder to resign?

Obama hasn't forced Holder to resign -- and he's not going to -- because Holder is his firewall.

24 posted on 06/07/2012 2:22:24 PM PDT by okie01
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To: musicman

This is what we get for posting jokes about it. Holder must have seen that cartoon and now that’s his story.


25 posted on 06/07/2012 2:24:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Lucky9teen
So she got word of these particular Democrats – a Senator in particular who the rest of them were hiding behind.

Dickie Durbin? Tom "Dungheap" Harkin?

26 posted on 06/07/2012 2:38:18 PM PDT by okie01
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To: newnhdad; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

“Depends on what the meaning of “is”, is...”

Indeed...


27 posted on 06/07/2012 2:42:42 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: newnhdad

“Depends on what the meaning of “is”, is...”

Or what the meaning of “was” was!


28 posted on 06/07/2012 3:20:39 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

If there was justice, Holder would hang.


29 posted on 06/07/2012 3:22:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

If there was justice, Holder would hang.


30 posted on 06/07/2012 3:23:01 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Oh! They were talking about the movies....


31 posted on 06/07/2012 3:38:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Holder: “These are not the droids you’re looking for.”

Press: “Ok. Move along.”


32 posted on 06/07/2012 3:44:10 PM PDT by Sharkfish ( "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: TigersEye

33 posted on 06/07/2012 3:56:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Drill Thrawl

“...Simple solution to this:
Indict
Try
Convict
Execute
For capital murder. And the whole ATF too while they’re at it....”

We recently stopped and visited Goliad, TX which is down in south Texas. It’s an old town with a lot of history. In the old section where the courthouse square is, there is this great BIG old tree called the “Hanging Tree”. They used to actually hold court right on on the grounds and then hang em 10-15 at a time in the old days....now that was a DOJ!!! Maybe it’s getting close to that having to reinstate the old days.....naaa, cruel and unusual punishment and all that liberal stuff. But one can wish.


34 posted on 06/07/2012 3:57:23 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Red in Blue PA

The great generation that put the Nazis on the noose at Nuremburg is long gone.

This new negro Nazi party will skate just like the Clinton cartel did in the 90s.

President Romney will not purge our government of the corrupt racist trash anymore than Bush did after he was elected.

Where have the soap box and the ballot box gotten us now?


35 posted on 06/07/2012 4:47:43 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: okie01
"Obama hasn't forced Holder to resign -- and he's not going to -- because Holder is his firewall."

This.

36 posted on 06/07/2012 5:23:11 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Any side bets on how long Obummer’s pardon list is going to be?

Can’t wait to see it, come December.


37 posted on 06/07/2012 7:53:22 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. ¬ó Robert Heinlein)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
The Choom Gang, Bogarting with the Sinolas.

Thank you Carrie Nation.

38 posted on 06/08/2012 12:09:38 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: spawn44

When the next admiistration comes in, will there be any records of Holders decisions found at DOJ? I expect a lot of empty file drawers.


39 posted on 06/08/2012 6:06:39 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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