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Bangor teacher gets prison for sex with student
Allentown (PA) Morning Call ^ | June 8, 2012 | Riley Yates

Posted on 06/08/2012 4:59:45 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A former Bangor Area High School teacher who had sex with a 17-year-old student was sent to prison for five months Friday by a Northampton County judge who said he expected her to be unhappy with his sentence.

But then Rachel L. Farrell, 26, surprised Judge Emil Giordano, who had just heard her defense attorney arguing for probation.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; predator; sex; students; teachers
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To: shibumi

Nah, I’d say she’s GUILTY.


41 posted on 06/08/2012 8:25:13 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR4LJjCBWE0&feature=autoplay&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CB-lr-bPA_nrB-AW5RlrYV&playnext=33


42 posted on 06/08/2012 9:00:46 PM PDT by Archer24 (Get a life - I've had two and am lookingfor more.)
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To: SaraJohnson; SamAdams76

I agree with Sam that prison time is appropriate for rapists. I do not see a need for prison time in the case mentioned in this article although I do agree with disciplinary action taken by the school district.


43 posted on 06/09/2012 4:40:22 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Well, screwing minors is illegal and is handled by the criminal justice system as it should be.

When you make noises supporting women screwing their male students, think about what that means. It means you can not discriminate against boys, subjecting them to predatory adult sex, you have to have girls treated equally under the law. Further, you can’t discriminate against homo adults, either. If heterosexuals can pork the kiddos, so can homosexuals.

It really helps to think past one’s crotch when advocating it to be legal for teachers to use the student body as their sex stables, with a slap on the butt from the pervert management when they get caught.


44 posted on 06/09/2012 5:28:14 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Well, screwing minors is illegal and is handled by the criminal justice system as it should be.

Well, here in Penna, the age of consent is 16 so unless there was a threat of violence here, i.e., rape, then the act was consensual. There should have been no case legally.

When you make noises supporting women screwing their male students, think about what that means. It means you can not discriminate against boys, subjecting them to predatory adult sex, you have to have girls treated equally under the law. Further, you can’t discriminate against homo adults, either. If heterosexuals can pork the kiddos, so can homosexuals.

Well, again, if it is at or above the age of consent, then legally, there are no discrimination here. Now if there is coercion to the point of duress, harrassment and/or rape, then it is a prosecutable offense.

It really helps to think past one’s crotch when advocating it to be legal for teachers to use the student body as their sex stables, with a slap on the butt from the pervert management when they get caught.

I tend to lean libertarian although personally, I have a high moral standard, I just think the role of government should be limited in dictating morality. We are schizoid in this country on sexual matters. In some ways, we are way too open, other ways, we are too uptight. Both the libertines and uptighters are too extreme. Sex should be treated naturally and each of us should instill our morals and standards into our children and so on after that and instill our values and reinforce that.

If you're talking about underage kids that are like below the age of puberty and/or age of consent as the case may be, then yes, the law should be applied. I think the age of consent at 16 is a good compromise for all, by that age, we need to be sure we on our own instill values, morals and responsibility into our teenagers and young adults and cross our fingers and hope they make the right decisions. We need to understand the sexual drive as natural and instill self control as well, but there is a time where young birds must fly, so many European countries have age of consent laws as well as us here in the States.

I don't advocate what happened here nor support it, I just think the law is being applied wrongly and their is really no offense here as I stated above. I know myself, I've seen hot teachers too, I remember I was 14 or 15 at the time and my English teacher was hot. She had three Corvettes and looked hot. Sure maybe fantasies have crossed my mind, I don't deny that, raging hormones and all, but I also have values instilled in me where I had self control to where if given the opportunity to act on those fantasies, I would not have.
45 posted on 06/09/2012 6:33:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

First, the article is about Maine where it is illegal for adults to pork seventeen year olds. Second, most states have laws against employers and teachers imposing sex on their underlings because they have power over those underlings to extract sex from them. Adults with power over children have a special and twisted advantage. Pedophiles have manipulating children into sexual “consent” down to a science, actually.

I know from your response to this that you “lean libertarian” as you beleive the world revolves around what each person finds personally acceptable to do to others. That is why I am not a libertarian. The immaturity and stupid of libertarianism is like dealing with wisdom and ethics of children who play in an imaginary world of the lord of the flies.


46 posted on 06/10/2012 1:14:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Actually, the age of consent is 16 in Maine. I just think we need to teach responsibility and expect people to learn it at a younger age. Again in this case, both parties are above the age of consent, which the government of Maine says so. We need to quit being hypocritical on sex laws. BTW, the definition of a pedophile is basically a person who preys on people who are under the age of puberty. If that was the case here, I'd be with you on throwing the book and the kitchen sink at the teacher since at those ages, they are certainly children, they do not have the capacity mentally or physically for such things. Again, I'd be for throwing the book at the teacher if she chased the kid down and he said "no." "No means no." However, I do not see it in this case.

We need to be truthful and treat sex as natural and be honest with our kids as well as arm them against the bad people out there and each of us needs to teach our values. I just think government power is getting carried away here and it enforces our hypocrisy on this subject.

It's like a co-worker said to me once. He made a good point that almost all of us can agree on 80% of things being right and wrong but the other 20% we debate on. He said that we live in a plural society where the 20% where there are times we might have to compromise between the sides to preserve freedom, "that's why I joined and fought with the Marines." He added, "for example, some people think homosexuality is wrong, others think it's OK and even others are middle of the road." He said, that's freedom of choice. Myself, on that one, I'm more middle of the road, I don' like it, but I do realize that we do have the freedom to go one way or another but we must also be responsible and accountable for our actions. I don't like the push for the gay agenda as it is going now nor the forcing of gay marriage either, but I do support the idea that, like anyone else, have the right to chase the American dream as far as their talents, training and merit can take them.

I just think that beyond basic Mosiac Laws, government is generally a poor enforcer of morality and when it does so beyond a certain point, it can become too authoritarian.

I'm pretty much "my own dog" on some of these issues, I generally get flak from both left and right at times. Many times I don't comment because of that. I think we will agree to disagree.
47 posted on 06/10/2012 1:48:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Obviously the bit@@ is going to jail because what she did was illegal! It was criminal in maine for her to sexually prey upon her students and her skanky, manipulative a$$ is going to jail. So get off that crap that what she did was legal or her choice, if you want to talk with me. It was not her personal choice to screw a student.

Your dance about homosexuality is cute but not in touch with reality. Homos are looking for special rights to force their perversion on everyone. They already are doin it in the schools. The religion you worship - amorality - is aggressive in it’s preaching and intolerant of anyone who does not agree or who talking about the DISEASES of it.
Judges are forcing homo kiddie sex clubs into other people’s public schools. The elite are persecuting people who speak out against the lifestyle and disease of homos. It is a fact. There is no void. That is a libertarian myth. We will encourage and impose good or evil from an elitist and government standpoint.

Don’t give me your libertartian pretend world to claim it is different. A moral and ethic code will domininate government and busness in law and regulation. I will not surrender the law and culture to the amoral prick elitists of the universe and pretend my child will not grow up and be shaped by their disgusting ignorance and love of death.


48 posted on 06/10/2012 2:14:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: ConservativeStatement
Here's another one ... personally I'd go with Not Guilty! ;-)

Feel free to post this as a separate article - gotta fix something ... before dark.

L.I. Teacher Sentenced After Admitting Having Sex With 16-Year-Old Student

Guilty?


49 posted on 06/18/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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