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After Walker victory, Indiana governor suggests public unions should go
FoxNews.com ^ | 6/10/2012

Posted on 06/10/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by South40

On the heels of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's history-making recall victory, the governor of nearby Indiana with his own record of curtailing union benefits suggested public-sector unions are past their prime and should be abolished.

"I think, really, government works better without them," Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels told "Fox News Sunday," when asked whether public-worker unions should even exist.

Daniels had cracked down on collective bargaining for state workers as soon as he took office in 2005, six years before Walker and his GOP allies in the state legislature started down the same path -- triggering a backlash that forced him to stand for election this past Tuesday. Walker made history as the first governor to survive the recall test, beating Democrat Tom Barrett.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 06/10/2012 12:46:35 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Less talk... JUST DO IT !


2 posted on 06/10/2012 12:48:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: South40

I’m not sure they are even constitutional.


3 posted on 06/10/2012 12:54:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

When has that silly old Constitution ever meant, let alone stopped a libtard from doing whatever they damn well please.


4 posted on 06/10/2012 1:00:14 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Less talk... JUST DO IT !”

No politician can “do it” without sufficient power. That power comes from the people. The Tea Party showed the way in 2010. If there is a groundswell of public opinion in favour of — whatever —, then the politicians will become motivated and empowered to do that.

Consider a counter-example. Obama and Obamacare. Obama spent a lot of political capital ramming Obamacare through. Now, it seems that about 2/3 of the people don’t support Obamacare, and it might be quashed by the SCOTUS.

If any governor were to eliminate public-sector unions, without broad public support; they (the unions) would just rise again like zombies.


5 posted on 06/10/2012 1:01:09 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: cripplecreek
States do recalls but the process isn't as popular as the proponents originally thought.

The reason usually given for a recall is so a corrupt politician can be quickly removed. Since those days the federal government has actually removed many more top level politicians for crime than all the states with recall have removed.

I think it used to be the case that the federales didn't have an anti-corruption law to use ~ which they do now.

I find recall to be rather contrary to the American process.

6 posted on 06/10/2012 1:02:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: South40

That sound you just heard was the blast of a thousand DUmmie heads exploding.


7 posted on 06/10/2012 1:16:31 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: cripplecreek

The Libs constitution is in Pelosi’s terrarium. It’s kept alive with an endless supply of Unicorn manure and rainbow sunshine.

Be well and have a joy joy day.


8 posted on 06/10/2012 1:22:00 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: South40

Agreed! No public servants should be unionized, especially when they have the power to strike!


9 posted on 06/10/2012 1:30:10 PM PDT by Letmarch75
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To: muawiyah
When the enforcers are able to enforce their own political will.

Cop Union Boss Boasts of Beating Lawmakers With Flashlights: If Soldiers Don’t Have Unions, Why Do Police and Teachers?

"We intend to walk into Lansing after the summer break and ask the Republicans who have been so eagerly screwing us, 'who's next?' If we cannot earn their respect we will do what we have always done; hit it with a flashlight until we gain compliance."

Now imagine a system with union cops on the street, union judges in the courts, and union guards in the prisons. That's a very dangerous self sustaining system. Jenny Granholm brought it home for me when she started importing inmates from other states for no other reason than to keep union guards on the job.
10 posted on 06/10/2012 1:33:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: South40

did the Indiana Gov learn his position at the Bilderberg meeting he just had attended?


11 posted on 06/10/2012 1:37:45 PM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m not sure they are even constitutional.

Well. THEY are probably constitutional, but their so-called "contracts" are obviously not.

12 posted on 06/10/2012 1:42:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: cripplecreek

Glad you brought up the Lansing thing. The ‘flashlight’ comment by that union thug is interesting. http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/18663819/flashlight-found-in-car ~ Some one has begun making up FLASHLIGHT BOMBS and leaving them around Phoenix.


13 posted on 06/10/2012 1:46:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SF_Redux

Mitch has been after the state unions for many years. Maybe he passed on tips to the Bilderberger commando teams eh!


14 posted on 06/10/2012 1:47:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: South40

Government Employees are the largest Lobbyist Group in the USA.

We need to curtail Government Employee power and influence by removing Unions from government.

Right now most of our elected legislators and executives are scared to death of the Government Employee Lobby.


15 posted on 06/10/2012 2:03:17 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: muawiyah

He wants to impose Wal Martial law.


16 posted on 06/10/2012 2:05:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0vXxH1IEmQ


17 posted on 06/10/2012 2:08:56 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

And that’s the primary reason I oppose term limits. A bunch of noob legislators are no match for entrenched government employee union bosses. The bigger the government, the more bureaucrats, the stronger the unions, the more powerful they become. Without a serious reduction in the size of government...and complete elimination of government unions, there should be no discussion of term limits.


18 posted on 06/10/2012 2:17:38 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: South40
We've only had to endure public-sector employee unions since the late 1950's. In the grand scheme of things, that is just a gnat's breath.

There is no reason why any government employee should be in a union.

19 posted on 06/10/2012 2:36:00 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
If any governor were to eliminate public-sector unions, without broad public support; they (the unions) would just rise again like zombies.

You don't think there's broad public support? Scott walker's convincing victory, plus landslide victories for reform in San Jose and San Diego say otherwise.

20 posted on 06/10/2012 2:36:39 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: elkfersupper

Posted in post number 10. It lays out a great case against public sector unions.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/15485


21 posted on 06/10/2012 2:41:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ken H
I'm saying that public support must be there -- and must be seen to be there. Leaders, such as Walker, are a minority of politicians. Most need to see which way the parade is going, before they get out in front of it. You shouldn't take comfort in being part of a "silent majority" -- it's better to be part of a noisy, pushy majority.
22 posted on 06/10/2012 2:43:59 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
it's better to be part of a noisy, pushy majority.

A silent majority doesn't stand a chance against a noisy minority so we better become a very noisy majority.
23 posted on 06/10/2012 2:59:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: South40

For what sane reason are public worker unions even needed?

Other than simply siphon off money from the public treasury to fund their Democrat allies, they have no other reason to exist but to exert pressure ‘collective-bargaining’ and extort from the public treasury.


24 posted on 06/10/2012 3:38:42 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Letmarch75
Agreed! No public servants should be unionized, especially when they have the power to strike!

At least two past presidents, both dems, I think, Wilson? T. Roosevelt? and FDR spoke unequivocally about the unacceptability of "public emmployee" unions.
We all know where Ronald Reagan stood. And we also all know where The Great Destroyer of America and his party stand.

I am searching for the links and will post their exact words later.

Coincidentally, Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace was on, Fox, with "guests" only representing the "Public" Employees Thug Unions only. It will be repeated later today at 11 pm PDT.
Recommended watching, because Chris plays the devil's advocate in favor of the unions with much more sympathetic enthusiasm, as hard as he attempts not to.

25 posted on 06/10/2012 4:20:13 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: South40
Public employee unions work against taxpayers' interests (Abolish all public unions now!)

Check out freeper Elle Bee's most excellent post #5. 

 

26 posted on 06/10/2012 5:04:36 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: South40

HOORAY Mitch Daniels! No public unions and a lot less public workers in a much smaller government.

DISMANTLE UNaccountable government bureaucracies (socialism). Let the workers find a job doing something productive...not something “progressive”.


27 posted on 06/10/2012 6:02:41 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: South40

FDR thought government worked better without them.

If it’s good for the fedgov, it’s good for the stategov.


28 posted on 06/10/2012 6:07:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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