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Where Was Obama Born? The Answer Is...
Death of the Grown Up ^ | 6/13/2012 | Diana West

Posted on 06/13/2012 1:32:41 PM PDT by kreitzer

... I don't know.

What I do know is that Obama's life "story" reeks of fraud, as independent investigators pull chunks and shards of evidence from the Obama deep, attempting to piece them together as a way through what should be a clear roadmap of a man's early life but is instead a maze of purposeful deception. It is a maze thick with irony beginning with the notion that the same man who wrote two (count 'em, two) autobiographical volumes before age 47 won't release one single document attesting to his identity, his family, his education, his travels, his careers. (No, I don't count the dodgy computerized images that have appeared, presto, before our eyes, high-tech-smoke-and-mirrors style.) It is a maze whispering with rumors as well, sometimes leading to dead ends, as, for example -- AND THIS IS A CORRECTION TO A STORY POINT THAT CAME UP DURING MY APPEARANCE WITH FRANK GAFFNEY ON SECURE FREEDOM RADIO -- the false anecdote that in a debate with Senate-candidate Alan Keyes, Senate-candidate Obama claimed it didn't matter he was born in Kenya since he wasn't running for president. Not true.

In the past four months, I have written four columns syndicated by Universal Uclick devoted to the eligibility saga as it wends its way through different state courts and Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse investigation, as well as the attendant issue of gross media and political irresponsibility in failing to address the story in any serious, professional way. These columns are: "Why wasn't Obama slapped with contempt of court?" (2/09/12), "Why the silence about Obama's historic scam?" (3/22/12), "Is Obama disowning online birth certificate?" (4/19/12), and last week's "Spineless officials choose to ignore Obama's fraud" (6/07/12). Some of my weekly-like-clockwork outlets chose not to publish these four columns, a fact which itself has aroused commentary of its own, with Roger Kimball and Thomas Lifson, for example, addressing the supremely important issue of censorship and self-censorship such "spikes" reveal.

A fifth column, "Only voters can stop insidious spread of socialism" 4/12/12, which makes plain reference to the Obama document fraud, sneaked through. Before these 2012 columns, the last time I wrote about the eligibility issue in a column was to cover last year's White House press conference at which the long-form computer image was unveiled -- "Let Them Eat Birth Certificates" 5/20/11. That column appeared in some places and not others.

While this is merely my bird's eye of the story -- and there is a busy, sharp-eyed flock of independent writers, investigators, lawyers, and concerned citizens out there trying to solve the mysteries -- I think the story is starting to seep slowly into a new layer of consciousness. For example, after Frank Gaffney, noted national security expert and former Pentagon official who served in the Reagan administration (and one of my 19 co-authors on the Team B II Report, Shariah: The Threat to America) chose for the first time to devote one of his his hour-long radio shows to the topic, WorldNetDaily.com, leader of the pack on the eligibility issue, wrote up the interview, which then made it into the Washington Times 24/7 email alert.

Will the newspaper proper take on the story? Will any newspaper proper take on the story? There is another irony to the whole Obama eligibility story in the fact that with the 40th anniversary of Watergate upon us (as the Washington Post is busy reminding us), the new platitude in Washington to bemoan the demise of investigative reporting. And how! But it is not just a lack of financial resources, as former Post exec ed Leonard Downie Jr. tells us. We are witnessing a colossal failure of imagination and professional duty. Perhaps more than ever, fealty to ideology shapes news-gathering, while the word of authority (Dear Leader) takes precedence over evidence -- over logic itself. A high mental hurdle blocks most people from even seeing the issue, a hurdle that has arisen in the pin-drop hush on the subject in all mainstream circles. This week, The American Thinker blog, another rare stalwart in the quest for answers on the eligibility issue, published an essay in which Nick Chase tracks his own progress in thinking to a point where he could finally vault that hurdle and address the evidence himself despite what he calls "the cone of silence." Unbound, he's attested to the fraudulence on the online long form over five essays since April. A fine example.

More please.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamabio; usurper
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1 posted on 06/13/2012 1:33:01 PM PDT by kreitzer
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To: kreitzer

Maybe Sheriff Arpaio will have a bombshell for us soon.. As if the 0bamamedia would care anyway huh.. Timing with the SCOTUS ruling on 0’care should be interesting.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 1:43:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: kreitzer

Everyone knows that oBama is a fraud. The question is, who’s fraud, Soros, CIA, USCP, who’s fraud?


3 posted on 06/13/2012 1:44:00 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: kreitzer

Obama naturalized as an American citizen in 1983. His Certificate of Naturalization is on file with the United States Customs and Immigration Service, Lee’s Summit County, MO.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 1:48:29 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

P.S. Barack & Michelle’s suspended law licenses.. His suspended “after it was revealed that he lied on his application about not having any aliases, aka Barry Soetoro and he doesn’t want to go through the process of applying again.” And Michelle’s suspended for insurance fraud?


5 posted on 06/13/2012 1:49:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: SvenMagnussen

This would not surprise me but do you have proff?


6 posted on 06/13/2012 1:50:45 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: SvenMagnussen

He never was and never ever could possibly be a ‘natural born citizen’. That is a problem with his dad’s citizenship at the time of his son’s birth that his son can do nothing about which also renders him ineligible to be POTUS.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 1:51:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: kreitzer

Our state department claims they don’t have the passport records for Obama’s mother, they are part of the corruption. Also are pushing a UN agenda, massive redistribution of US wealth .


8 posted on 06/13/2012 1:51:11 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: RWGinger

PROOF
geesh
sorry


9 posted on 06/13/2012 1:51:37 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Don Corleone
Everyone knows that oBama is a fraud.

Yes, but at least he has done everything he possibly could to support and promote the Constitution and the American way.

He belongs on Mount Rushmore however there is no contrast in the stone to make it happen properly.

10 posted on 06/13/2012 1:52:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS
He belongs on Mount Rushmore however there is no contrast in the stone to make it happen properly.

Perhaps they could import a few million tons of coal to make his likeness, since we won't be using it as fuel.

11 posted on 06/13/2012 1:59:03 PM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kreitzer

One incongruity in the story of his Kenyan birth in Mombassa seems to never be commented on.

Daddy Obama’s people, the Luo tribe, are based around Lake Victoria, the far west of Kenya.

Most visitors to Kenya, then and now, go to Nairobi, the capital and a place with a pleasant climate.

Mombassa is on the far SE coast, as far as you can get in Kenya from either of the areas the Obamas would be expected to visit. It has a hot, humid climate, especially in August, when Obama was born.

So what would they be doing in Mombassa in August of 1961?

It’s like an extremely pregnant young woman arriving in USA to visit the in-laws in Denver, but for some obscure reason she decides to give birth in Miami.

Although getting from Denver to Miami today is a great deal easier than getting from Lake Victoria or Nairobi to Mombassa was in 1961.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 2:00:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SvenMagnussen

There is no “Lee’s Summit county, MO”. There is a city in Missouri, Lee’s Summit — that city is south of Kansas City in Jackson and Cass Counties.

The records center is, indeed, there in Lee’s Summit:

US Citizenship & Immigration Service, National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
P. O. Box 648010
Lee’s Summit, MO 64064-8010

You can write them about incidents involving yourself, but all FOIA requests go to Washington instead.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Sherman Logan
... for some obscure reason she decides to give birth in Miami.

Often a young, extremely pregnant (or not so pregnant) woman doesn't DECIDE to give birth. It just happens, and she can't stop it. The birth happens wherever she happens to be at the moment. Also, medical care is more prevalent in the larger cities.

14 posted on 06/13/2012 2:07:56 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
hey Ghost-baby...

Would you have any source info/links for the suspended law licenses?

This should be a bludgeon. The people deserve to know why the Chief of the Executive Branch (AND HIS WIFE!) both lost their licenses. The Romney team should make hay out of it, but it would be better to get it mainstreamed through other channels.

I'd like to see it investigated, published, and talked about so much that the likes of Bill Maher and Joy Behar tried to use their usual hate-filled sneering insults towards those who reiterated the info --- but had the attempts blow up in their faces.

It's high time we deliberately use our enemies own habits (seen to be strengths) as the weaknesses which they really are.

15 posted on 06/13/2012 2:13:01 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Will Rodgers would be aghast at things today, but he might like his road if they'd waive the toll)
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To: All
Where Was Obama Born? The Answer Is...

Did Zer∅bamagasm™ register for the draft? The Answer Is....

FEDS STONEWALL ON OBAMA DRAFT REGISTRATION RECORD

16 posted on 06/13/2012 2:14:09 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Never Argue With A LIBERAL...They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!)
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To: kreitzer

He wasn’t born anywhere ... he just manifested himself via the MSM.


17 posted on 06/13/2012 2:17:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: RWGinger; SvenMagnussen
This would not surprise me but do you have proof?

Sven posts that all over these threads. I have never seen anything to back that assertion up. And he never seems to answer anyone who asks.

18 posted on 06/13/2012 2:28:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

i do not doubt that he only became naturalized in 83
and I think this from you
‘And he never seems to answer anyone who asks. “
sums it up best

but without some sort of proof this falls into the birther category for most people. Sad but true


19 posted on 06/13/2012 2:32:15 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: kreitzer

Ruth Beatrice Baker puzzles me about the whole obama story. theres not hardly any info bout her.(NOTHING). anyone have any good info bout her? read somewhere that she was stanley anns sister- but found that not to be true— this family is smoke and mirrors


20 posted on 06/13/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: kreitzer
The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

21 posted on 06/13/2012 3:05:57 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: kreitzer

(Note: Yes, I AM shouting!) IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN. HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH SUBJECT, SO HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE OFFICE!


22 posted on 06/13/2012 3:08:03 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: kreitzer

Probably in British Columbia, Canada, in an unwed mother’s home in Vancouver. Teenaged Stanley Ann was probably supposed to give up her half black baby for adoption. She obviously changed her mind at the last minute, which is why the only place newborn Barack Obama has ever been seen is in Seattle, when his mother took classes at the university there, the month after Barack was born.

The Dunhams probably didn’t know or care that at 18 Stanley Ann was too young to confer American citizenship on her baby. It was going to be adopted by another couple, after all.


23 posted on 06/13/2012 3:14:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kreitzer

as, for example — AND THIS IS A CORRECTION TO A STORY POINT THAT CAME UP DURING MY APPEARANCE WITH FRANK GAFFNEY ON SECURE FREEDOM RADIO — the false anecdote that in a debate with Senate-candidate Alan Keyes, Senate-candidate Obama claimed it didn’t matter he was born in Kenya since he wasn’t running for president. Not true.


I saw that tape right here on a link at FR. I remember it. On the tape he says something ambiguous like “We are talking about the Senate, not the Presidency” but he did not say he was born in Kenya. I saw this.


24 posted on 06/13/2012 3:18:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ASA Vet; JimRed
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

What both of you said.

25 posted on 06/13/2012 3:18:54 PM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: SkyDancer

Maybe the Mooch will reveal all one day when they go thru a particularly nasty divorce, which most are. Payback is hell.


26 posted on 06/13/2012 3:37:59 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl

That’d make some real fun Dr. Phil stuff. My question is: where are all the girls he dated? Where are all the guys he hung out with? The guy has no background whatever ‘cept for some pictures of him smoking his whackie-weed.


27 posted on 06/13/2012 3:46:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: KC Burke

A naturalized US citizen can forfeit their privacy rights and assign, in writing, another person the right to examine their Permanent Resident Alien file with USCIS.

I cannot forfeit Obama’s privacy rights to examine his Permanent Resident Alien file, only he can do that. For those of you who think Obama’s original long form birth certificate is fraudulent, wouldn’t examining his alien registration file be logical?

Proving he wasn’t born in Hawaii doesn’t prove he wasn’t born in another state. Proving he was a Permanent Resident Alien from 1971 to 1983 is proof positive he’s not eligible to be President.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 4:03:50 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a certified copy of such an item.

Do you know someone who says they have seen it?


29 posted on 06/13/2012 4:13:27 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Kenya Railway (KR) has had 1st Class (4 berths) and 2nd Class (6 berths) passenger cars for ages.

I rode the train in 1984. The trip was very nice, good service. I was also on the 1914 version of the KR for the filming of “Flame Trees of Thika”. Not quite as nice, but not a bad way to travel.

Obama, Sr. may have been posted to Mombasa on a government job. Kenya was still under British rule then. 1961’s trains were probably very similar (if not the identical cars) to the one we traveled on in the 1980’s.


30 posted on 06/13/2012 4:17:19 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: kreitzer

The best Obama exposure site on the net:

The Obama File
http://theobamafile.com/

The United States Library of Congress has selected
TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection
of Internet materials
http://theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

http://theobamafile.com/index_next_politics.html

http://www.theobamafile.com/index_next_personal.html

http://www.theobamafile.com/BarackObama.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/FamilyPage.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaPsychology.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaWife.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/ObamaAssociates.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaIconography.htm

.

.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 4:56:57 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Which is why very few women, even today, decide to travel all over the world in their 9th month of pregnancy.


32 posted on 06/13/2012 6:09:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SvenMagnussen

They didn’t burn it yet?


33 posted on 06/13/2012 6:47:49 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Sherman Logan

Do you have both the exact dates of Stanley Ann’s pregnancy and the official/independently validated itinerary of her travels?


34 posted on 06/13/2012 7:33:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Sherman Logan

Do you have both the exact dates of Stanley Ann’s pregnancy and the official/independently validated itinerary of her travels?


35 posted on 06/13/2012 7:34:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Go to Birtherreport to see the latest Sheriff video.

Sheriff is on video a few days ago in Vegas.

He looks real content. He says Hawaii trip was real good. Justice for Obama may come with a 49 or 50 state landslide. The stink is just getting worse every day. By then he may wish he was disqualified. Nothing would please me more than to see him walk toward November knowing he will lose all 50 states because of this issue.

36 posted on 06/13/2012 7:52:54 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
This whole episode will likely go down in history as a case of winning a series of battles and losing the war. Again and again Obama’s lawyers have argued that all his records are off limits and should stay that way. A long sequence of judges have played ball on his side of the issue. The cumulative effect is an image of an arrogant, condescending, imperial man who disdains the concerns of the mere peons who foot his extravagant bills and ‘unprecedentedly’ [to use one of his favorite words] lavish lifestyle. This doesn't play well w the man in the street.

After Obama loses big in Nov., it may slowly dawn on the smarter Obots that their strategy was fundamentally flawed.

37 posted on 06/13/2012 9:06:05 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: kreitzer

obumpa


38 posted on 06/13/2012 9:46:42 PM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: RWGinger

Don’t sweat it. Sven just makes this stuff up and trolls FR with it. He’s something of a joke because of it.


39 posted on 06/13/2012 10:15:50 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Who says she went there in her 9th month? Nobody knows (or is saying) where she was between December 1960 and August 1961. She just vanished from the records.

I did read a reference in one of the biographies that Obama Sr’s father was really upset about the proposed marriage and wrote a scathing letter to his son about keeping “blood lines pure”. Perhaps the couple went to Africa together to try to smooth things over with the Kenyan relatives and she gave birth there.

I can tell you that doctors of that era only “guestimated” a birth date. All of my babies (same era) were born 3 weeks later than the doctor projected, and the doc could just have easily been wrong 3 weeks the other way.

In any case, records of Stanley Ann did not re-surface until the birth announcement in the Honolulu papers followed by her subsequent re-emergence in Seattle 2 weeks after bama was born when she enrolled at the University of Washington. That is the part that I am having a hard time believing. That’s a lot of world travel in a very compressed time frame before and after a first birth.


40 posted on 06/14/2012 2:28:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: KC Burke

Catholic Social Services of Connecticut.


41 posted on 06/14/2012 2:41:14 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Here comes Sven again with his fantasies, posting them as if they were fact.

Sven, do you have a single shred of evidence for anything you post? If so, we’re all ears.


42 posted on 06/14/2012 2:53:15 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The nesting instinct is strong.

I have had a bunch of kids, and each one my wife had to be settled. Getting up and moving a 1000 miles a week after birth was not happening unless the house burned down.

Moving three or four months after a birth, yes. That’s more common.


43 posted on 06/14/2012 4:40:10 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Fantasywriter

Nope. But then few if any such records are available for non-famous people from 50 years ago.


44 posted on 06/14/2012 5:39:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

So there is no way on earth for you to know that SAD traveled in her ninth mo of pregnancy.

Oh, and btw, surely you’re aware that just one yr ago Obama claimed he was born in July? Surely you know that much, at least.


45 posted on 06/14/2012 7:05:23 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: SvenMagnussen

OK,

Since only 0 can authorize access to the INS archives in MO or Washington DC,

HOW do YOU know this info?????

Do you work for Catholic Social Services???


46 posted on 06/14/2012 8:56:18 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: KC Burke

KCBurke,

Many thanks for that info.

Could you find out what year Catholic Social Services (of Connecticut or another state) got involved with the federal foster care program?

See if it was BEFORE or AFTER 1983.

If it was after, then “we have a problem” ;)


47 posted on 06/14/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: SvenMagnussen

Sven I have to ask you again for some proof. Why would Catholic Services be involved, how could Obama qualify as a refugee?


48 posted on 06/14/2012 9:34:23 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: WildHighlander57

You want a clue?

I’m a bit skeptical if you don’t know where to look when I repeatedly post things like, “The PRA field in Obama’s NUMIDENT file with SSA is a “Y” to indicate yes, he is a Permanent Resident Alien,” and “Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization is on file with USCIS.”

Alright, here you go. Neal Boortz’s sister worked at St. Francis of Assisi when Barry Soetoro was enrolled there.


49 posted on 06/14/2012 1:31:36 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: SvenMagnussen; All

OK the problem I have is the NUMIDENT file is not readily available. Neither are the USCIS files.

In addition, has Neil Boortz’s sister gotten involved with vetting 0?


50 posted on 06/14/2012 1:58:33 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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