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Melanoma drug 'too expensive' for NHS
The Telegraph ^ | 15 Jun 2012 | Rebecca Smith

Posted on 06/15/2012 1:41:25 AM PDT by markomalley

The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence has issued draft guidance turning down the drug on the grounds that it is too expensive and the long-term benefits of it are not clear.

The drug named Zelboraf, or vemurafenib, is for malignant melanoma that has spread and carries a specific genetic mutation and costs around £1,750 per patient per week.

The makers Roche agreed an undisclosed discount for the NHS but Nice still felt it was not cost effective.

Sir Andrew Dillon, chief executive of Nice said: “We need to be sure that new treatments provide sufficient benefits to patients to justify the significant cost the NHS is being asked to pay. Vemurafenib is an expensive drug and its long term benefits are difficult to quantify."

It is thought the drug may extend life from around 9.6 months to more than 13 months, a spokesman for Roche said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneycare4u; romneydeathpanels
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If SCOTUS lets Obamacare remain intact...or if the RINO Congress tries to recraft an Obamacare-lite version, we will see this happen all too often here, as well.
1 posted on 06/15/2012 1:41:29 AM PDT by markomalley
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What’s even worse is these drugs will not be developed for lack of a return on investment.


2 posted on 06/15/2012 2:01:58 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: markomalley

The British system has a unique feature...if you are terminal in just about any fashion....even if the end is eighteen months away....other than pain medication, you won’t get nothing else.

It’s the same way if you weight over 300 pounds and need a knee replacement...you won’t get it until you usually get down to 200 pounds. With a bad knee, there’s virtually no way that you can lose weight...so you just get pain-killers until the day you pass away.

It might take twenty years, but if Obamacare stays intact....we will all be inviting regulations to dominate our health in the end. You may one day have to buy a ticket to Costa Rica....just to get the care that you think you deserve.


3 posted on 06/15/2012 2:29:28 AM PDT by pepsionice
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“If SCOTUS lets Obamacare remain intact...or if the RINO Congress tries to recraft an Obamacare-lite version, we will see this happen all too often here, as well.”

I’m not sure I see the problem. Just because the NHS doesn’t think the drug is worth the money doesn’t mean people can’t put their hand in their pocket and buy it for themselves if they disagree. The NHS doesn’t ban people from private healthcare providers or paying for it yourself.

Is that the intention of Obamacare - to replace all private healthcare and ban people from buying drugs and treatment themselves making Obamacare a mandatory monopoly? If it is I can see why people are so concerned, but that’s not how the NHS operates.


4 posted on 06/15/2012 2:36:01 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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I’m not sure I see the problem. Just because the NHS doesn’t think the drug is worth the money doesn’t mean people can’t put their hand in their pocket and buy it for themselves if they disagree. The NHS doesn’t ban people from private healthcare providers or paying for it yourself.

So if NICE strictly deals with what will and will not be covered by NHS and not what can and cannot be marketed, what is the agency that deals with what drugs can and cannot be marketed in the UK? (Your equivalent to the FDA)

5 posted on 06/15/2012 2:46:19 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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This is exactly what American medicine needs - more bureaucracy.

Have you seen this?: “As scientists operating a small business, one of the biggest challenges they face is regulatory uncertainty, Vikram said. “Large companies have the manpower and bandwidth to keep an eye on changing governmental regulations. Smaller businesses don’t.”

It’s from here: Insera Therapeutics Slide 5 http://www.livescience.com/13210-science-business-success-nsf.html

Reality is all over, but liberals don’t want to see it.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 2:58:15 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Hey somebody tell that jerk that own’s Virgin Airlines that was raving about the British Helathcare system..forgot his name right now.


7 posted on 06/15/2012 3:08:42 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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The drug named Zelboraf, or vemurafenib, is for malignant melanoma that has spread and carries a specific genetic mutation and costs around £1,750 per patient per week.

Yet the same government that is responsible for the NHS is more than perfectly willing to put up a Zambian brood mare and her family in a 2 million pound townhome, virtually rent free. Equality? I'd say it's quite a bit more than equality.

8 posted on 06/15/2012 3:26:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“So if NICE strictly deals with what will and will not be covered by NHS and not what can and cannot be marketed, what is the agency that deals with what drugs can and cannot be marketed in the UK? (Your equivalent to the FDA)”

NICE only provides guidelines for the NHS use of medicines, the UK drug licencing authority is the MHRA:

http://www.mhra.gov.uk/


9 posted on 06/15/2012 3:37:01 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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“”What’s even worse is these drugs will not be developed for lack of a return on investment.”

Very true.


10 posted on 06/15/2012 3:38:41 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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“Yet the same government that is responsible for the NHS is more than perfectly willing to put up a Zambian brood mare and her family in a 2 million pound townhome, virtually rent free. Equality? I’d say it’s quite a bit more than equality.”

Housing is handled entirely by local councils, not by central government. In order to stop left-wing councils doing precisely what you describe, in April 2011 a tight cap was placed on housing benefit which effectively stopped what you describe:

http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/housing/housingoptions/hphoptions/housing-benefit-changes-april-2011/


11 posted on 06/15/2012 3:42:17 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE does not impact Moslems
and Congress.

Very fair, is it not?


12 posted on 06/15/2012 3:50:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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Coming soon to a large North American nation near you! Of course the “1%” of that nation will never be denied medications...or put on waiting lists...or be ruled by death panels,will they Mr Soros? Will they Miss Streisand? Will they,Mr algore? Will they,Osama Obama?
13 posted on 06/15/2012 3:52:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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It is called ROMNEYCARE because it was instituted,
like gay marriage, BY MR. WILLARD MARRIOT ROMNEY(CARE).


14 posted on 06/15/2012 4:01:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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15 posted on 06/15/2012 4:05:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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Hey somebody tell that jerk that own’s Virgin Airlines that was raving about the British Helathcare system..forgot his name right now.

Richard Branson.Yes,I'll wager that he hasn't gone anywhere near an NHS doctor or hospital since he made his first million.Somehow I see him visiting only the most expensive doctors and hospitals in London,Boston,New York,Baltimore,Rochester,Minnesota....

16 posted on 06/15/2012 4:10:44 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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“What’s even worse is these drugs will not be developed for lack of a return on investment.”

Pay cash if you want it. Problem solved.


17 posted on 06/15/2012 4:12:44 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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1) Gerald Ford (14 July 1913 – 26 December 2006) , the 38th President of the United States. "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. Presidential address to a joint session of Congress (12 August 1974)
18 posted on 06/15/2012 4:13:43 AM PDT by radioone
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My wife died of malignant melanoma. This is a crime against humanity. Period.


19 posted on 06/15/2012 4:15:04 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: markomalley

“If SCOTUS lets Obamacare remain intact...or if the RINO Congress tries to recraft an Obamacare-lite version, we will see this happen all too often here, as well. “

You will see this in any system that is not the customer paying directly for something they want.

There is an upper limit to what socialist systems will pay. People in the US aren’t used to socialism having limits because there were no limits to what we were willing to borrow. That is changing.

NHS = Medicare = Obamacare = Socialism

They are all the same in that they force people to give their property to someone else.


20 posted on 06/15/2012 4:21:49 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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