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recordnet.com ^ | 14 June 2012 | Jordan Guinn

Posted on 06/15/2012 8:58:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog

STOCKTON - It can withstand AK-47 rounds from point-blank range. Fifty-caliber bullets will not penetrate its hull or puncture its run-flat tires. Ballistic glass more than an inch thick protects the occupants as they serve high-risk search warrants or handle hostage situations.

It is a modified Ford F-550 truck known as the Lenco BearCat G3, and it is the newest addition to the Stockton Police Department's motor pool.

Essentially paid for by selling items taken from drug dealers the past several years, the BearCat was formally introduced to the community Wednesday morning during a Stockton SWAT team training session. Team members have learned how to maneuver the truck, and they have familiarized themselves with its various crime-fighting amenities.

"There's literally no place on this thing where the manufacturers didn't think about the truck's ability to stop a round," said Lt. Eric Ingersoll, SWAT commander for Stockton police. "It's specifically set up for SWAT and tactical use."

(Excerpt) Read more at recordnet.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; stockton; swat

1 posted on 06/15/2012 8:59:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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video at link


2 posted on 06/15/2012 9:00:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

“Rescue vehicle” my sweet aunt’s pa-toot. More like “Revenue Vehicle”.


3 posted on 06/15/2012 9:02:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: smokingfrog
How well does it drive around when it's flat on it's back? Sprechen zie... is it rated for being upside down?

/johnny

4 posted on 06/15/2012 9:03:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Definitely needs more cup holders.


5 posted on 06/15/2012 9:03:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Wow, now if they encounter an 80 year old naked lady swinging a stick, they won’t have to taser her.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 9:04:27 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: smokingfrog

>Fifty-caliber bullets will not penetrate its hull

Oh, I believe a mono metal tungsten sabat would cause some havoc upon it...


7 posted on 06/15/2012 9:06:04 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: rockrr
We've been saving money in our asset-seizure forfeiture account specifically for this for about three or four years." The cash, which is raised by confiscating property or narcotics during raids or investigations, can only be spent on equipment,...

I'm guessing they'll have to step-up the confiscations to keep that thing fueled-up and maintained.

I'm a little confused about the quote above, how do they raise money by confiscating narcotics? Hmmmm?

8 posted on 06/15/2012 9:10:41 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: smokingfrog

We need cops, Stockton is bad, and I have to allow that’s impressive gear:

But with budget prospects being what they are, this shows a failure in leadership —we need to fire LOTS of people at the top.

This extravagance shows bad judgement —people have to lose badges.

The solution is to stop the flood of PEOPLE who are making Stockton famously bad.

They open the floodgates, then shriek about their “emergency needs”. Hey, sorry, but quit INDUCING the emergency.

Sorry.


9 posted on 06/15/2012 9:11:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: bill1952

Maybe not the hull, but probably the plexiglass.

Anyway you put a couple gallons of thermite on the hood and let it burn and it ain’t going anywhere.


10 posted on 06/15/2012 9:12:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: rockrr

The city of Stockton is pretty much bankrupt. This vehicle might come in handy some day soon when the SHTF.


11 posted on 06/15/2012 9:12:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ll bet I can disable it with a bucket of paint or a tarp, If I could only get close enough, or above it.


12 posted on 06/15/2012 9:13:21 PM PDT by Boiling point
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Anyplace you find a lot of narcotics, you will usually find a lot of ca$h as well.


13 posted on 06/15/2012 9:15:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rockrr
Indeed. I wonder who they think they'll be rescuing. My guess is they'll be rescuing society from the drug war.

Such a noble, profit-fueled endeavor.
14 posted on 06/15/2012 9:16:06 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: smokingfrog

Civil Forfeiture was intended to give cops “skin in the game” —to INCENTIVIZE enforcement.

And ya know what? That is what it DID —lots of innocent no-knock break in’s, with some really spectacular cases of PROPERTY clearly being targeted —one poor guy who had NO criminal history (but plenty of beach property) was arguably murdered, some years ago.

Oh! And his property was taken.

In other words, the most prominent perps of home invasion were —ARE— cops.

Note —I have abused drugs and I don’t (knowingly) keep friends who do.


15 posted on 06/15/2012 9:16:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: smokingfrog
“There's literally no place on this thing where the manufacturers didn't think about the truck's ability to stop a round,”

Except for the very visible front tie rod that once severed,or damaged could cause
the invincible juggernaut to be unstearable. Have a nice day.

16 posted on 06/15/2012 9:18:45 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: gaijin

Grew up in Stockton in the 70’s and 80’s, and it has become such an armpit that it definitely needs a heavy hand.


17 posted on 06/15/2012 9:19:21 PM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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To: bill1952

always depends on shape, size and speed of said .50 cal round. I believe momma deuce hammering away at the windshield might get them blinking real rapid like.


18 posted on 06/15/2012 9:19:25 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: smokingfrog
Anyplace you find a lot of narcotics, you will usually find a lot of ca$h as well.

I know, but the way they phrased it in the article was humorous.

19 posted on 06/15/2012 9:22:08 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: smokingfrog

Keene, New Hampshire, police bought one of these with a gov’t grant. They were so excited that they were getting a ‘tank’. Keene is a little town in rural farmland and not much more.

Idiots.

We’re in a police state, no doubt.


20 posted on 06/15/2012 9:27:28 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: CrazyIvan

BINGO! I saw the tierod hanging out there in the breeze screaming hit me.You take that out and it wont go anywhere very fast.What an oversight.


21 posted on 06/15/2012 9:28:39 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: gaijin

typo - I have NOT abused drugs. EVAR.


22 posted on 06/15/2012 9:29:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: smokingfrog

The city not too long ago closed down a substation in the North part of town due to lack of funds. I don’t know if their priorities are quite....right.


23 posted on 06/15/2012 9:33:52 PM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: gaijin

Don’t apologize - when you’re right, you’re right.


24 posted on 06/15/2012 9:46:53 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: gaijin

“Oh! And his property was taken.”

How did they take the property when he was the victim? The property should have gone to the estate... or did he not have a will?


25 posted on 06/15/2012 9:54:43 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: going hot

How would it handle a 20mm round?


26 posted on 06/15/2012 9:58:45 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: gaijin

We really need an ‘Edit Post’ button!

An Edit button would cover a multitude of sins... :)


27 posted on 06/15/2012 9:59:03 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: meatloaf
Put it in reverse, mash the pedal, and hope the shooter misses?

Said on the dash top speed is 60 mph on paved roads, 15 on dirt, and rolls over at 30+degrees.

Probably should not drive it too close to a ditch?

On another note, did I not hear just last week that Stockton is fixing to declare bankrupcy?

maybe they could pawn off the ride and use the proceeds to fund the pensions for the retired city cops?

28 posted on 06/15/2012 10:14:00 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: meatloaf
Put it in reverse, mash the pedal, and hope the shooter misses?

Said on the dash top speed is 60 mph on paved roads, 15 on dirt, and rolls over at 30+degrees.

Probably should not drive it too close to a ditch?

On another note, did I not hear just last week that Stockton is fixing to declare bankrupcy?

maybe they could pawn off the ride and use the proceeds to fund the pensions for the retired city cops?

29 posted on 06/15/2012 10:14:11 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: smokingfrog

Why do the police need an Armored Personnel Carrier?

Why do we need a SWAT team to arrest someone for failing to pay child support or a warrant from parking tickets?

What’s the justification for the police to look more and more like the military?

Are the rates of people shooting at police officers that much higher than in previous decades?

Is there suddenly an increase in people using high caliber weapons against the police?

(The most common guns used in crimes are cheap .25’s and 380’s and .38’s, not M4’s, Barret 50’s and RPG’s)

Do the Police really fear us that much?


30 posted on 06/15/2012 11:24:40 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: smokingfrog

A cyanide bomb used to kill gophers will deal with the occupants. Lighting up 5 gallons of gasoline underneath will make it incomfortably hot inside. Some black Krylon paint on the windshield will render the visibility to zero making it unsafe to drive. Under $10 in materials.


31 posted on 06/16/2012 12:30:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PanzerKardinal
Why do the police need an Armored Personnel Carrier?

Because the bad guys are shooting at them with big guns.

Why do we need a SWAT team to arrest someone for failing to pay child support or a warrant from parking tickets?

We don't use a SWAT team for those purposes, but of course you know that.

What’s the justification for the police to look more and more like the military?

Do the police need to conform to some standard dress code? Why do you care what they look like?

Are the rates of people shooting at police officers that much higher than in previous decades?

YES! These stories are carried in the news.

Yavapai and Maricopa County Sheriffs have confirmed that the killing of a New Hampshire couple near Sedona and a Maricopa Sheriff's deputy at Anthem were killed by the same weapon, believed fired by 30-year-old Drew Ryan Maras.

When Maricopa deputy William Coleman tapped on the window of the van outside an Anthem strip mall, Maras opened the door and fired 29 rounds at the officers, two of those rounds striking Coleman early Sunday morning.

Another deputy returned his gunfire killing Maras. An AR-15 style rifle was recovered from the scene in Anthem.

And that answers your next question.

Is there suddenly an increase in people using high caliber weapons against the police?

Why would you use the word "suddenly" to describe a trend that's been going on for many years?

(The most common guns used in crimes are cheap .25’s and 380’s and .38’s, not M4’s, Barret 50’s and RPG’s)

Maybe that's true where you live, but not here. Around here they mostly use 9mm semiautomatic pistols. Does the name Gabrielle Giffords strike a familiar note?

Do the Police really fear us that much?

This sounds like a standard question from the Brady Handgun Campaign. "What are you so afraid of that you feel the need to carry a GUN with you?" The police are not afraid of you or any other law abiding citizen. But they deserve to be protected from the bad guys with big guns who keep shooting at them. They will use this vehicle to drive TOWARD the scene of danger while everyone else is running AWAY, screaming in fear. And if they use it to rescue your tender hide from the bad guys with big guns who are trying to do you harm, then you will be damn glad they bought it.

32 posted on 06/16/2012 1:35:41 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: smokingfrog

Brought you by...”The Neverending War on Drugs/Citizens/Constitution.”

Folks, it is not going to get better. Thousands of regular line police are being trained in urban infantry tactics that were NOT taught in the police academy.


33 posted on 06/16/2012 4:43:23 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

“Do the Police really fear us that much?”

I don’t think it is as much about fearing the population as CONTROLLING the population. If Stockton has this, what does DHS have for us? Armed drones, in “America”? Really? No, we are headed toward full blown communism. IMHO


34 posted on 06/16/2012 4:46:03 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: smokingfrog

Does it have gun ports, so they can shoot puppies from behind cover?


35 posted on 06/16/2012 4:58:17 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: smokingfrog

Stockton is about to declare bankruptcy, and the roid boys are buying new toys. The properly equipped people will squash your Nazimobile like a bug when the time comes.

“Negotiations between Stockton, California, and its creditors won’t yield enough savings to keep it from becoming the largest city to seek bankruptcy protection, a lawyer for an employee union said.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/stockton-council-plans-vote-on-bankruptcy-authorization.html


36 posted on 06/16/2012 5:22:24 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: PanzerKardinal

“The most common guns used in crimes are cheap .25’s and 380’s and .38’s, not M4’s, Barret 50’s and RPG’s”

Our government cares enough about our Mexican cartel neighbors enough to walk only the best firearms to them.


37 posted on 06/16/2012 5:25:03 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: meatloaf

“How would it handle a 20mm round?”

Or a Panzerfaust?


38 posted on 06/16/2012 5:27:15 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: bill1952

Thats spelled sabot.

and pronounced say bo

thank me very much!


39 posted on 06/16/2012 7:25:36 AM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: Myrddin

Douse it with a few dollar’s worth of ammonia-based cleaner and see how long they will stay inside of it. Extra points if you can introduce it directly in or on the ventilation openings.


40 posted on 06/16/2012 11:27:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tarantulas
In your entire - rather boring - post, the most lethal example of High energy weaps was this:

>Another deputy returned his gunfire killing Maras. An AR-15 style rifle was recovered from the scene in Anthem.

Give us a freaking break, its a mouse killer - I could armor a Honda Civic to withstand that fire.
This vehicle is completely unneeded and is a perfect example of the militarization of civilian police force

- but you knew that

41 posted on 06/16/2012 2:49:31 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: PastorBooks; gaijin
We really need an ‘Edit Post’ button! An Edit button would cover a multitude of sins...

FIRST: There is a PREVIEW button, FORCING you to at least have ONE MORE CHANCE to proofread your work before you can POST IT.

SECOND: Even if there was an EDIT button, people would still make the same mistakes.

THIRD: You would be opening PANDORA'S BOX. Everyone would be able to go back and 'edit' a post, so they could 'cover up' what they originally said.

No one would likely bother going back to fix a 'typo', especially if they didn't have the time to PREVIEW(or care to) it in the first place.

That would leave those who wish to hide the evidence of what they did say.

Most typos are easily SEEN as such and most read over them. (In fact, most of the time our 'brain' will 'see' the correct word, regardless to how it is typed)

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42 posted on 10/15/2012 1:02:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Tarantulas; PanzerKardinal
Do the Police really fear us that much?

Great rebuttal , spidey.

As you say, it isn't the police who fear us. It is the politicians who fear us and want the police to provide protection. It is the politicians who want to control the crimes by being in on the take, and want to use the police to enforce payment.

It is the people who pit black against white, Christian against Muslim, Rich against poor, police against lawful citizens, and men against women to ensure they stay wealthy and in 'power' that allowed this problem to exist, and to grow.

43 posted on 10/15/2012 1:10:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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