Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Watching the the video stream of the "Obama ballot challenge" in Florida right now...

Posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:20 AM PDT by Enduro Guy

Anyone else doing the same?

This could lead up to a big day in history...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; naturalborncitizen; vanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-69 next last

1 posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:33 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Fill us in please. What’s going on?


2 posted on 06/18/2012 7:02:37 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

URL Please


3 posted on 06/18/2012 7:02:37 AM PDT by sr4402
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

They will chicken out, just like in Georgia and Arizona.

Mark my words.

The only way to really challenge Obama on this issue would be for what Mr. Monkton brought up and that is challengeing an excutive order that led to someone’s incarceration.

Sucks, but is true....


4 posted on 06/18/2012 7:04:29 AM PDT by GraceG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Link?

Context?

Background?

Thanks!


5 posted on 06/18/2012 7:04:29 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

hey! post a link if you have one


6 posted on 06/18/2012 7:07:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo
Florida judge hearing Obama ballot challenge
7 posted on 06/18/2012 7:08:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: sr4402

You gotta go through a simple WND news letter sign up (you can simply cancel later). Name, email & zip code, then follow the instructions...

See if this works first:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/209789/


8 posted on 06/18/2012 7:08:31 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Telling us what’s going on is not going to violate any copyrights.


9 posted on 06/18/2012 7:10:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo

Here’s a link to the sign up process:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/watch-florida-eligibility-hearing-live/


10 posted on 06/18/2012 7:10:41 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Please re-post this as:

“Here’s the News You Need to Know - I’ll Keep You Posted.”


11 posted on 06/18/2012 7:12:17 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

WND-TV is acting up a tad. Gotta do a ‘refresh page’ every once in a while.

The judge appears to be a tad combative to the offense’s opening statements. I hopes he’s playing the ‘rope a dope’ game though...


12 posted on 06/18/2012 7:14:09 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy
Anyone else doing the same?

I'm not. But feel free to FILL ME IN on what you're talking about.

13 posted on 06/18/2012 7:18:43 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

book mark


14 posted on 06/18/2012 7:21:01 AM PDT by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy
The suit describes plaintiff Michael Voeltz, as being a registered Democrat.

This is the money quote.

15 posted on 06/18/2012 7:21:22 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Mine says off air?

What ?


16 posted on 06/18/2012 7:21:38 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tanniker Smith

Hell, the video stream isn’t working. Now I’m in the dark, but twice as frustrated...


17 posted on 06/18/2012 7:21:38 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy
Here is the deal. Obama is not the nominee and therefore not subject to ARTII SECIII CLSV and this court has no jurisdiction to determine the eligibility of someone who not yet the nominee!


18 posted on 06/18/2012 7:23:18 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jcsjcm

Same here. I was watching it for a good 5 minutes and then...


19 posted on 06/18/2012 7:23:40 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: GregNH
SECIII

Pretty sure that's Section I.

20 posted on 06/18/2012 7:25:57 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: GregNH

Yep. There it is in a nutshell...


21 posted on 06/18/2012 7:28:26 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Windflier

Correct, thnx, i’m typing while pissed.


22 posted on 06/18/2012 7:28:50 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy
Caught a few minutes of it...

Heard in court: 'There's no indication Obama was born outside the U.S.' (paraphrased)

Really? What about the 16 years and multiple revisions worth of literary agency author bios that say Obama was born in Kenya?

You know... the bios for which the authors themselves provide the information? Hmmm?

Obama claimed for 16 years and through multiple revisions of his literary agency bio that he was born in Kenya.

23 posted on 06/18/2012 7:30:55 AM PDT by Rides3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: GregNH

That’s better than the other way around, maybe...


24 posted on 06/18/2012 7:31:31 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Got link?


25 posted on 06/18/2012 7:32:09 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jcsjcm

Now there’s a note above the video window that says: “The video of today’s hearing will be available shortly.”


26 posted on 06/18/2012 7:34:42 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Video is now available again...


27 posted on 06/18/2012 7:47:39 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy
I only caught the tail end of today's proceedings. This was only a hearing on Obama’s motion to dismiss Klayman’s case. After hearing arguments the judge seemed to say that he wanted to take a wait and see if the Democrats officially nominate Obama before dealing with the substantive issues. In other words, he said the issues raised were not ripe for consideration because Obama was not yet an official candidate. The judge asked both counsel for a proposed order on the motion to dismiss and set a deadline for next Monday. My take is that he may delay addressing the issues until after Obama’s nomination is official.
28 posted on 06/18/2012 7:51:02 AM PDT by iontheball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Enduro Guy

Just attended the hearing. Judge Lewis told each side to submit an order in digital form that he could use when he reached a decision. In other words, he reserved judgment on the Motion to Dismiss of BO and the Fla. Secretary of State. The parties have until June 25 to submit their proposed orders.

The main argument of the BO attorneys was that 1. BO is not the nominee until after the convention so he is not a candidate for president, and 2. voters elect electors, not presidents.

The main argument of the plaintiff was that the buck has to stop somewhere, that BO is the defacto nominee, since he would have to elect in writing (under Florida law)if he were NOT going to seek nomination, and the Founding Fathers were concerned about divided loyalties, citing Vattel, etc.

Klayman did give an excellent example of parental influence in citing to the recent executive order on immigration, relating it to the fact that O senior was deported as the result of an expired student visa.

Lewis asked a lot more pointed questions of Klayman than he did of the defense attorneys. He posed some odd scenarios to Klayman with respect to what ‘natural born’ means, including the effects on the definition of ‘natural born’ of artificial insemination, parents who expatriate after a child is born here, etc. Klayman was pretty steadfast in saying that the Founders did their best with what they understood, in light of the potential divided loyalties they feared.

All in all, I would say that the continued technical arguments which include the amorphous means by which presidents are elected, and the legal maneuvering, claiming the priorities of federal law over state law, etc. will again carry the day. I believe Lewis will grant the motion to dismiss with leave to amend.


29 posted on 06/18/2012 7:54:58 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rides3

I don’t know why but I had an excellent connection up to the last 30 secs when the judge gave his instructions for the attorneys to submit a proposed order.

My connection was like watching a video and excellent sound too.

I have to disagree with you on the , heard in court comment.
“Heard in court: ‘There’s no indication Obama was born outside the U.S.’ (paraphrased)”

The Judge clearly asked the plaintiff’s attorney, Mr. Klayman, that if I grant you leave to amend your complaint, will you be providing something that shows Obama was not born in the US?

And Klayman said YES.


30 posted on 06/18/2012 7:57:05 AM PDT by jdirt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Rides3

I don’t know why but I had an excellent connection up to the last 30 secs when the judge gave his instructions for the attorneys to submit a proposed order.

My connection was like watching a video and excellent sound too.

I have to disagree with you on the , heard in court comment.
“Heard in court: ‘There’s no indication Obama was born outside the U.S.’ (paraphrased)”

The Judge clearly asked the plaintiff’s attorney, Mr. Klayman, that if I grant you leave to amend your complaint, will you be providing something that shows Obama was not born in the US?

And Klayman said YES.


31 posted on 06/18/2012 7:57:22 AM PDT by jdirt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: esquirette

Most excellent summary. Thank you...


32 posted on 06/18/2012 7:57:22 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Rides3

I don’t know why but I had an excellent connection up to the last 30 secs when the judge gave his instructions for the attorneys to submit a proposed order.

My connection was like watching a video and excellent sound too.

I have to disagree with you on the , heard in court comment.
“Heard in court: ‘There’s no indication Obama was born outside the U.S.’ (paraphrased)”

The Judge clearly asked the plaintiff’s attorney, Mr. Klayman, that if I grant you leave to amend your complaint, will you be providing something that shows Obama was not born in the US?

And Klayman said YES.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 7:57:22 AM PDT by jdirt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

Comment #34 Removed by Moderator

Comment #35 Removed by Moderator

Comment #36 Removed by Moderator

Comment #37 Removed by Moderator

Comment #38 Removed by Moderator

Comment #39 Removed by Moderator

Comment #40 Removed by Moderator

Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

Comment #42 Removed by Moderator

Comment #43 Removed by Moderator

Comment #44 Removed by Moderator

Comment #45 Removed by Moderator

Comment #46 Removed by Moderator

Comment #47 Removed by Moderator

Comment #48 Removed by Moderator

Comment #49 Removed by Moderator

Comment #50 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-69 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson