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Uh Oh: Elizabeth Warren Refuses to Meet with 4 Cherokee Activists
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2012 | Daniel Doherty

Posted on 06/18/2012 1:35:11 PM PDT by Kaslin

Remember when the Boston Globe prematurely declared this political scandal over last May? Good times.

 

Four outraged Cherokee activists who say Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has ignored their emails and phone calls will trek to Boston this week in hopes they can force a meeting with the Democratic Senate candidate over her “offensive” Native American heritage claims.

“It’s almost becoming extremely offensive to us,” said Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist who has researched Warren’s family tree. “We’re trying to get in contact and explain why her behavior hurts us and is offensive, and she totally ignores that. Like we don’t exist.”

Late last night, a Warren campaign official told the Herald that staffers will “connect” and “offer to have staff meet with them.”

“We would like to see her look at the documentation and admit there’s no Indian ancestry there and then apologize,” Barnes saud. “Hear us. Acknowledge us. Know that she’s brought us into this. We didn’t bring ourselves into this. This whole trip was planned to get a meeting with her.”

Barnes said there is still no evidence, despite research conducted by her and other genealogists, to support Warren’s claim of Cherokee roots.

 

These four Cherokee activists aren’t the only Native Americans offended by Elizabeth Warren's ancestral claims. As we reported last week, an enraged Harvard University alumna named Margo (Kickingbird) DeLaune (who, by the way, belongs to the Kiowa tribe of Oklahoma and is a registered Democrat), penned a joint op-ed with her son criticizing the Senate candidate’s conduct and urging the Harvard community to hold her “accountable for the damage she has wrought.” And, incidentally, much like DeLaune’s crusade for truth and justice, these particular Cherokee activists’ aren’t motived by politics or partisanship, either.

 

Politics isn’t a motivator, Barnes insisted. One of the women is a registered Democrat, and the other three are left-leaning independents, said Barnes, who said she voted for President Obama in 2008.

 

In any case, it’s not surprising “Granny” Warren is hesitant to meet with these individuals – after all, she’s failed to produce one single shred of evidence corroborating her tenuous claim that she is “1/32” Cherokee. What’s baffling, however, is that she simply refuses to renounce her “heritage” or apologize for her actions (her grandfather’s “high cheek bones” notwithstanding) especially when it’s painfully evident her conduct has offended Native Americans across the United States. If -- if -- Elizabeth Warren does apologize at some point, it would seem to suggest that she is indeed guilty of academic fraud. On the other hand, if she continues to hide from the Native American community -- and evade their unwelcome questions -- the backlash is likely to be more pronounced.

In short, one thing is clear: Cherokee activists want her to apologize for committing (what they consider to be) academic and ethnic fraud; and they’re not going away until she does.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: activists; cherokee; elizabethwarren; fauxcahontas; indians; kiowa; massachusetts; meet; refuses; warren
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To: tsowellfan
Perhaps there is an old family dispute that’s the blame?
You mean like their great-grandparents being some of the little kids her great-great-grandpa helped round up & march to Oklahoma?

I really can't understand why this is still an issue; didn't Supreme Chief Ward Churchill, himself, vouch for her heritage? /sarc

41 posted on 06/18/2012 6:47:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ILS21R
She is too busy flipping wigwams.
Is that similar to tipping outhouses?
42 posted on 06/18/2012 6:51:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Kaslin

Pure craziness - it is still fraud as far as I’m concerned even if it had been true that she is 1/32 Cherokee for her to claim she is a Native American ‘minority’ race.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 7:45:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Kevmo

Actually there are quite legitimate Welsh genealogies that run back to King Ad.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Republican Wildcat
There are three bands of Cherokee sufficiently noteworthy to get their rules looked at. One band requires 1/32 blood quanta. The others have a higher standard, but that has to be Cherokee. Being 63/64 Apache and 1/64 Cherokee would be disqualified.

Recently one major band of Cherokee has been trying to expel black Cherokees.

Earlier they got into some decades long court cases against the Delaware!

Some recognized Indian tribes keep their tribal rolls secret so there's no way an outsider can ever qualify for membership based on blood quanta. However, there are OTHER records. The Oneida, for example, were American allies in the American Revolution. There were something like 75 top quality warriors who fought in major engagements against the Brits. ALL OF THEM have been named by the Oneida, and they do appear in New York Revolutionary War records.

A fair percentage of them appear in the records of the Old Yellow Church as converts. Standard genealogical examination can demonstrate your ties to the Oneida, or not, fairly quickly. Your biggest problem is that paternal lineage is not big with the Iroquois ~ they use matrilineal accounting ~ just like the ancient Hebrews.

45 posted on 06/18/2012 8:24:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tsowellfan
She's already named the Delaware/Cherokee dispute (one parent has links to the Delaware and one to the Cherokee). There are decades of court cases regarding that dispute! She cites that piece of bad blood as the reason her folks left Tulsa to get married.

Then there's this current wave of racial intrigue among some of the Cherokee where they're trying to kick out the black Cherokee.

I wouldn't vote for Warren for a million bucks but if I were her I wouldn't meet with ANY Cherokee unless they proved their bona fides too ~ and could demonstrate their band had never been involved in disputes with the Delaware or black people in their tribe.

46 posted on 06/18/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gil4
Supposedly one of the presidents of one of the major bands is but 1/32.

The trick with the Cherokee is you MUST have an ancestor in the Dawes Rolls. If your Cherokee ancestors failed to get listed you can't get into one of the recognized tribes. That does not mean you are no longer a Cherokee, just that you can't joint a recognized tribe.

47 posted on 06/18/2012 8:34:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

warren’s war on Indians! :)


48 posted on 06/18/2012 8:34:27 PM PDT by isom35
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
LOL!

Her smok'm too much POS pipe.

49 posted on 06/18/2012 8:39:25 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Bitsy
Used to be the 'one drop' rule was in force so if you had any knowledge of a black ancestor you kept your mouth shut. BTW, except in a handful of states, folks known to be Indian in any degree were identified as 'not white'.

It's only recently become popular for white folks to admit to Indian ancestry. Black folks have been into that for more than a century.

Now, how many white folks have Indian ancestry in this country. Well, to start with, there's a genetic marker ~ shovel teeth. If you got 'em and have no known East Asian or Cossack ancestry, you're in the zone ~ and that has been known for years to be 2%. Since that's an autosomal recessive, there'd be another 2% with no shovel tooth gene at all, and 4% with a recessive gene that could be identified. That's a grand total 8% of the white population have to have an American Indian ancestor.

That'd be well over 15 million people! The recognized tribes have no where near that number of members.

Going well beyond that group, there another 9 million white folks who have some or a lot of Sa'ami (Laplander) ancestry in this country. That's roughly 100 times the number of Sa'ami in Europe!

50 posted on 06/18/2012 8:42:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
"Elizabeth Warren Refuses to Meet with 4 Cherokee Activists."

Maybe they couldn't get a reservation?

51 posted on 06/18/2012 8:47:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: tsowellfan

From that picture it lools like Elzbet has SHOVEL SHAPED INCISORS which suggest East Asian, Cossack or American Indian ancestry.


52 posted on 06/18/2012 8:47:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Iron Munro

Thats gotta be post of the day.


53 posted on 06/18/2012 8:49:14 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Kaslin
High-cheeked squaw speak with forked tongue.
54 posted on 06/18/2012 9:19:32 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Gil4

What tribe uses the 1/32 standard? Most up this way require 1/4 or more.


55 posted on 06/19/2012 2:15:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: muawiyah
It's only recently become popular for white folks to admit to Indian ancestry. Black folks have been into that for more than a century.

We have groups of blacks in New Orleans who dress up in magnificent Indian garb every Mardi Gras and parade a route. These blacks identify emotionally or physically with American Indians and are proud of it. It would be really interesting if everyone in the South knew their real heritage because they would find a lot of mixed blood in their veins, I am sure. I for one, may have a bit of black blood because (now this is just 3rd party here say) on my mother's side her uncle in Mississippi had a farm and supposedly inpregnitated a black worker then raised the boy in his family. I don't know that to be a fact but I am sure that happened a lot in those days. It doesn't bother me at all because the more the mixture the richer the past, I say.

56 posted on 06/19/2012 6:01:58 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin
Looks like the only way out for Warren is to:

A. Swampum with wampum.

B. Become blood-brothers.

C. Smoke peace pipe.

D. Blame Bush.

57 posted on 06/19/2012 6:19:19 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Where you have a large number of Indians around, and that includes Oklahoma where 15% of the population report being some part Indian, you get a lot of intertribal mixing.

The 1/32 rule allows real Indians who are 100% Indian to belong to some recognized tribe. Else, you could find some of those recognized bands dwindling down to a handful of people.

Remember, it's not how Indian you are, but what's your blood quanta running back to someone who was listed in the Dawes Rolls.

58 posted on 06/19/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Smokin' Joe

That was the number I saw in connection with the Warren story. If it’s wrong, I guess that’s good.


59 posted on 06/19/2012 4:36:49 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for that explanation. Around here the tribes tend not to mix quite so much, and most are from one band or another.


60 posted on 06/20/2012 3:40:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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