Fortunately for them, Congress and the Courts have an endless supply of this
Posted on 06/19/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by Drew68
Exactly "subject to the Jurisdiction thereof" has been contorted to mean that just because some tourist (or, in this case, someone who sneaks into the USA SPECIFICALLY to drop a baby to gain U.S. Citizen BENEFITS), is NOT subject to the "Jurisdiction", which was meant for INHABITANTS of the USA, NOT FOREIGNERS.
To think a vacationer can drop a baby in the Country, just to gain Citizenship automatically, doesn't even pass the smell test.
I agree with you. I think both Rubio and possibly Mitt Romney have NBC problems, and that Mitt's dad, George Romney, was out-and-out ineligible for the presidency.
Furthermore, I think the NWO types are trying us on, trying to break us of our stiff-necked Judaeo-Christian morality and our narrow patriotism that stands in the way of a North American Union and a World Empire.
We seriously need to start breaking a lot of crockery in rich people's houses. We need to break them of this too-cool-for-school crap.
Being overruled by improperly-motivated judges isn't the same thing as being wrong, incorrect, or out of order.
Trying to keep a secret? No. Rubio has been tabbed for this position ever since he looked like he was going to win the senate seat. He is the holy grail. A member of the fastest growing minority, good looking, very articulate, conservative, and from a large swing state.
The RNC House of Lards -- as in, Lards Ordainers -- is obsessed, ever since Karl Rove showed up to b.s. them all into senselessness, positively obsessed with getting a Spanish name on the ticket.
To get all them Messkins voting for People Like Us (New England Yankeedom).
It's nuts, and it isn't going to happen. Mexican-Americans vote Democratic reflexively and unreflectively. Their granddaddies voted PRI for generations down in Mexico "just because", and they vote with the Tejano Democrats in Texas and the Razistas in California, "just because". The split among Mexican-Americans is usually 70/30; Central Americans and South Americans split more evenly.
I saw a quote by some sociologist to the effect that he thinks this voting pattern will persist at least three, maybe four generations deep into the Chicano descent. He may be right: My father was sixth-generation Irish-American, and his whole family voted Democratic like they were pulling a handle on the old beer keg.
Old habits die hard.
Corruption, error, and malfeasance are not precedential.
Chester Arthur is the only "doubtful" President under the eligibility clause. If you have another candidate, trot him out.
You deserve what you get.
“the US judiciary have been cowards on this issue of natural born citizenship.”
No, they just disagree with your nutjob interpretations, and have since at least the 1840s. But you go on citing Minor as authoritative, and I’ll go on watching your side get laughed out of court...
“”””No, they just disagree with your nutjob interpretations, and have since at least the 1840s.”””””
If they disagree, then let the courts deal and clarify this matter. They should make a clear determination using today’s language.
If the courts refuse to do this, then they are cowards.... in spite of what you say
The courts HAVE dealt with this matter - back in the 1800s. There has been NO legal dispute for over 100 years.
Birthers reading Vattel, who didn’t realize the phrase NBC only occurred in the 1797 translation, 10 years AFTER the Constitution was written, have tried to make it an issue by claiming Vattel was the basis for the NBC phrase. They were aided in this stupidity by the fact that ‘natural born’ had largely disappeared from daily use in the 1800s, and most folks don’t know it was used all the time in citizenship cases during the 1700s.
Thus folks THOUGHT the strange sounding phrase came from Vattel - not understanding that it was the NORMAL legal phrase used in the 1700s, with an established legal meaning.
The courts have been clear, which is why these cases never go anywhere. It is NOT a giant conspiracy consisting of all 50 states, every court, and every member of Congress.
No I don't deserve what I will get from Romney and neither do you. The difference is you don't know what you are getting. I do.
“you don’t know what you are getting. I do”
Some clown inputs just need to be exposed.
Your’s is one.
“I” am getting:
- A chance to save America from the complete destruction Obama has planned,
- A chance to place non-communists on the USSC bench,
- A chance to dethrone 100 unconstitutional czars, bent on regulating American industry out of business,
- A chance to have a President who at least feels constrained by the U.S. Constitution and the separation of powers.
- A chance to have a President who takes the responsibility for National Defense seriously, and who’s first instinct is not to turn our soveriegnty over to the U.N.
- A chance to have a President that recognizes government spending is constrained by the ability of the private sector to prosper sufficiently to provide the corresponding revenue.
- A chance to have a President who understands the protections provided by the Bill of Rights, and that the “Free Exercise” clause means something.
So, while you whine about Romney not being “conservative enough”, I’m not willing to endorse Obama’s destruction of America, such that we never again have the chance to return to our conservative roots.
This doesn't hold any water. If this was really true, Obama would have cited Supreme Court opinions and holdings in his court cases a long time ago, if this was such an open and shut case for him that he is a natural born citizen. Instead, this issue will drag on as long as it takes until such time because at this time the courts are evading.
Birthers reading Vattel, who didn’t realize the phrase NBC only occurred in the 1797 translation, 10 years AFTER the Constitution was written, have tried to make it an issue by claiming Vattel was the basis for the NBC phrase. They were aided in this stupidity by the fact that ‘natural born’ had largely disappeared from daily use in the 1800s, and most folks don’t know it was used all the time in citizenship cases during the 1700s.
Thus folks THOUGHT the strange sounding phrase came from Vattel - not understanding that it was the NORMAL legal phrase used in the 1700s, with an established legal meaning.
The American translation of the Vattel's book, The Law of Nations, is a true an accurate translation. OBots like to delude themselves that back in the late 1700s that the translation are inaccurate interpretation of deVattel's works. That's complete and utter nonsense.
I know we could elect a Conservative president, question is why did the Republican party fight so hard to get the faux conservative on top of the ticket? I am in no way convinced that Romney will win. Rubio will do more harm than good especially since Sarah Palin poisoned the VP well and no woman will ever be on the GOP VP ticket.
I would refer you to the Romney Truth File as maintained by the owner of this forum.
Judging from Romney’s governing history, how the heck is he any different than Obama other than having an “R” by his name and declaring he’s “severely conservative?”
“””””The courts HAVE dealt with this matter - back in the 1800s.”””””
Really? So there is actually a clear Natural Born Citizen definition from multiple federal courts in the 1800s? Oh good.... Please tell us...... We all want to know. ????? VS ?????
Fortunately for them, Congress and the Courts have an endless supply of this
Somewhere a neighborhood is missing an idiot.
Are you still in 4th grade?
What do you suppose happens to America if Obama gets back in?
JimRob made a very clear transition regarding the importance of getting off of Romney’s back and focusing on defeating Obama!
The paragraph you cited doesn't say anything at all about the NBC clause. Why are you telling outright and obvious lies??
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