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POLL: Supreme Court Insiders Think Obamacare Is Finished
Business Insider ^ | 06/20/2012 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 06/20/2012 12:15:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Most former Supreme Court attorneys and clerks believe that the individual mandate to buy health insurance — the signature provision of President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act — will soon be struck down as unconstitutional by the high court.

That's according to a joint poll by the American Action Forum, Center Forward and Purple Strategies. An astounding 57 percent of clerks and attorneys polled now think that the mandate will be ruled unconstitutional. That's up from just 35 percent in March, before the court held oral arguments on the case. 

Obamacare poll

Purple Strategies

Here's what one respondent told Purple Strategies:

“I feel like a dope, because I was one of those who predicted that the Court would uphold the statute by a lopsided majority…it now appears pretty likely that this prediction was way off.”

Why the change? The oral arguments in late March had a lot to do with it. In this poll, 70 percent of respondents thought the justices were more skeptical than they expected. Thirty percent said it was about what they expected, and no one thought it was less skeptical than expected.

The insiders' sudden skepticism falls in line with those of some lawyers and constitutional scholars began to have after the oral arguments. Ilya Shapiro, a senior fellow in constitutional studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, upped his unconstitutional prediction from 55 percent likely before the hearings to 65 percent likely after the hearings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; scotus; supremecourt
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1 posted on 06/20/2012 12:15:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

once again, we all knew well in advance, while the ‘experts’ are surprised. jeez


2 posted on 06/20/2012 12:17:13 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remember CFR

Don’t get your hopes up because anything can happen


3 posted on 06/20/2012 12:18:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: SeekAndFind

More tea leaf reading . Nobody knows what the Court will decide until the opinion is released. My guess is they will strike down the mandate but leave the rest intact.


4 posted on 06/20/2012 12:18:30 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get ready for:

“John Roberts has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” — Barack “Jackson” Obama


5 posted on 06/20/2012 12:18:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

As Yogi Berra once said: “It’s over when it’s over”.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 12:20:00 PM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: saganite
My guess is they will strike down the mandate but leave the rest intact.

How? Severability was not in the bill. Its my understanding that if part is ruled un-Constitutional, the whole thing is struck down.

7 posted on 06/20/2012 12:21:18 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I am afraid that at some point Obie will be forced to understand that all those military “folks” took an oath to the Constitution, not to him...


8 posted on 06/20/2012 12:23:07 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over...)
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To: Michael Barnes

The Court can find a way if they want to.


9 posted on 06/20/2012 12:24:15 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: duckman
As Yogi Berra once said: “It’s over when it’s over”.

That's not how I remember it. He said: "It's not over when it's over!"

10 posted on 06/20/2012 12:24:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: saganite

In theory, it’s an all or nothing proposition. To strike the mandate but uphold the rest is judicial activism because SCOTUS would be, in essence establishing a severability clause that is not there.


11 posted on 06/20/2012 12:25:59 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Revolting cat!

“That’s not how I remember it. He said: “It’s not over when it’s over!”
Are you sure? It sounds logical the way you put it!


12 posted on 06/20/2012 12:27:15 PM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: duckman

“It’s not over UNTIL it’s over.”


13 posted on 06/20/2012 12:29:34 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Revolting cat!

The actual Yogi Berra quote was “It ain’t over till it’s over. “


14 posted on 06/20/2012 12:29:57 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Revolting cat!

It’s not over until it’s over.


15 posted on 06/20/2012 12:30:41 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I always thought it was, “It’s not over UNTIL it’s over.”


16 posted on 06/20/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: duckman

I’m not sure of anything. I’m only sure that Bob Dylan said “It’s all over now, baby blue...”, and Roy Orbison “It’s OVER!”


17 posted on 06/20/2012 12:31:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Or, it’s the committee speaking, and a battle between 4 brains and 3 schmucks and one non-recusing pig over one fence sitter’s vote, resulting in an unacceptable “compromise” being the result to get 5-4.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 12:32:20 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: Lando Lincoln; a fool in paradise

No, no, that was what the Fat Lady sang!


19 posted on 06/20/2012 12:33:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Michael Barnes

—Severability was not in the bill. —

Yep. And the comical part is that it used to be but was removed. That seems pretty deliberate to me. ‘Course, I’m not in the SCOTUS.


20 posted on 06/20/2012 12:33:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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