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Holder says contempt citation unwarranted
Reuters ^ | June 21, 2012 | John Acher, Reuters staff

Posted on 06/21/2012 8:16:38 AM PDT by opentalk

COPENHAGEN (Reuters) -Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday dismissed as unwarranted a vote by a congressional committee to charge him with contempt of Congress after the Obama administration withheld documents related to a failed gun-running investigation.

"The action that the committee took yesterday was unwarranted, unnecessary and unprecedented," he said after meeting European Union justice officials in the Danish capital.

The contempt move comes after the Obama administration asserted executive privilege as its reason for withholding some of the documents requested by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives' Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

...Holder told a news conference he remained optimistic the conflict with the committee could still be resolved on the basis of the administration's proposal.

"We put before the committee a proposal that would have allowed for the resolution of that matter consistent with the way in which these have been resolved in the past, through negotiation," he said.

"I think that the possibility still exists that it can happen in that way," he said. "The House leadership has to consider now what they will do, so we'll see how it works out."

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama; statedepartment
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1 posted on 06/21/2012 8:16:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Short & sweet response to Holder about the contempt citation:

SELF-INFLICTED


2 posted on 06/21/2012 8:18:21 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: opentalk
The contempt of congress charges is exactly equivalent to a box of kittens mewling on the way to the incinerator.

IT MEANS NOTHING.

Obamugabe will do whatever he wants, Constitution be damned.

3 posted on 06/21/2012 8:19:39 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: opentalk

Unwarranted?
Then perhaps he should have released the requested documents as he was required to do so.
If we the people had done as he did, we’d be in jail.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 8:20:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: opentalk

I must be a very slow learner, because I continue to be stunned by the arrogance of the people who make up this administration.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 8:21:38 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Darksheare

“I am not a crook”...


6 posted on 06/21/2012 8:22:05 AM PDT by Rca2000 ( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
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To: opentalk

Yeah, Eric? Those murders, because of YOU and your cabal, were ‘unwarranted’, too. You rat b@stard! You’re going to burn in h3ll for a loooong time.


7 posted on 06/21/2012 8:23:39 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Darksheare
Michele Bachmann was on FOX last night. Said Congress is getting a high volume of people contacting them about upholding the Constitution (paraphrase)
8 posted on 06/21/2012 8:29:35 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

unwarranted, unnecessary and unprecedented...

Wrong, wrong and wrong. And Holder’s inane statement cannot change the history that was made yesterday. Forward..... to the full House vote.


9 posted on 06/21/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: opentalk
"Unexpected."
10 posted on 06/21/2012 8:33:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: opentalk

Holder’s statement shows his contempt of the contempt vote.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 8:37:54 AM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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To: opentalk

“-Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday dismissed as unwarranted a vote by a congressional committee to charge him with contempt of Congress after the Obama administration withheld documents related to a failed gun-running investigation.”

Then produce the documents that you were ordered to provide, douchebag. ALL of this nonsense is YOUR fault, particularly and especially the hundreds of dead bodies on both sides of the border.

Resign or be prosecuted.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 8:37:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: opentalk

I see Eric gets a nice taxpayer funded summer vacation in Denmark.


13 posted on 06/21/2012 8:39:14 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: opentalk

Holder is acting like any criminal would act when he thinks he can lie his way out of it. In another life, Holder would have been a successful pimp. In this life, he is still a pimp, a dirty one who should spend the rest of his life in a maximum security lockup.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 8:39:14 AM PDT by pallis
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To: opentalk

OK then. Easy fix. Somebody please swear out a warrant for AG Holder.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 8:43:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ILS21R
Godless, Lawless, people. Hopefully MSM will not have the power to sell their spin. Shocking info for people who have not been following it.

Mexico was not informed of the operation.

Our government purposefully running guns across an international border as the murders escalate.

Obama's Amnesty move last week may have been a political move to help keep the Latino voters from being outraged.

16 posted on 06/21/2012 8:52:28 AM PDT by opentalk
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The botched operation was meant to help law enforcement agents follow the flow of guns from Arizona into Mexico, but they lost track of many of the weapons, which later were involved in crimes.

The Department of Justice ’ s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents

Agent Casa recounted a similar situation. He had also never heard of, nor seen, guns being allowed to walk until he got to Phoenix:

. . . . But from the time I started as an ATF special agent . . . up until the time I got to Phoenix, that was my understanding, that we do not let guns walk, absolutely, positively not. And if we –if ever a case [where]we would do that, there better be a really good explanation why we did not grab that gun when we could.

Q. But that changed when you came to Phoenix, I mean the practice at least changed, correct?

A. Yes.

(snip)

As Agent Dodson testified:

Q. Based on our training and experience, what did you think about [walking guns]?

A. It was something I had never done before, sir. And quite frankly, I took great issue with it and concern.I felt like I understand the importance of going after the bigger target, but there is a way to do that. We did it successfully in the dope world all the time. And those skills and practices that we used there, a lot of them transfer over, and more than applicable in gun trafficking investigations, but we weren’t allowed to use any of them.

Q. And did you ever have a recollection of sharing your frustration with Special Agent Casa?

A. Oh, yes, sir.

Q. And any other special agents that you can –

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And maybe you could just tell us what other agents you –

A. Pretty much everyone, sir. It was, I shared my reservations and concerns with Special Agent [L], with Dave Voth, with Special Agent [D]Special Agent [H], Special Agent Alt, Special Agent [P], several of the special agents that came on the GRIT, G-R-I-T. The gunrunner initiative is what it stands for. I shared them with or I voiced my concerns to other agents inside the Phoenix field division that was on other groups.

(snip)

Despite this e-mail, agents continued to experience dismay and frustration as Operation Fast and Furious continued along its perilous path. As Agent Casa testified:

Q. And is it fair to say that. . .the folks on your side of the schism wanted to do everything they could to interdict these weapons so they wouldn’t get any farther down the street than they have to?

A. Yes, sir. We were all sick to death when we realized that –when we realized what was going on or when we saw what was going on by the trends. We were all just, yes, we were all distraught.

The rift widened when the Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) authoritatively and unambiguously told Group VII that guns were not being walked, that the special agents were incorrect in their terminology, and that there would be no more discussion or dissension about this topic. Agent Dodson testified:

A. Then we get an e-mail that . . . there is going to be a meeting. [the ASAC] is coming down, [the ASAC] comes into the Group 7 office and tells us essentially we better stand down with our complaints, that we didn’t know what the definition of walking guns was, we weren’t familiar with the Phoenix way of doing things, that all of this was sanctioned and we just needed to essentially shut up and get in line. That’s not a quote, but that’s the feel of the meeting, so . . .

How do you "lose track" when you are ordered to "allow them to "walk"?"

17 posted on 06/21/2012 8:58:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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“How do you “lose track” when you are ordered to “allow them to “walk”?” “

You don’t - because that was never the goal. The gun-grabbers have long contended that “90% of the guns in Mexico come from the US” or some such bilge. What better way to prove such an absurd* allegation than to actually make it come true yourself, and to thereby have a tool to use to control guns.

This was not only a horrific crime that resulted in hundreds of innocents being murdered (so far), not only breaking US law (unless Hillary’s State Dept. OK’d the export of the guns in question, an interesting topic all by itself), but it was a conspiracy directed from the very top (YES, Obama) to further erode/destroy the 2nd Amendment. It is also an act of war upon Mexico. Obama should be impeached for this, and Holder and his fellow conspirators tossed in jail for a lot longer than Liddy, et al were for Watergate - at least with Watergate, no one was murdered.

* “absurd” because no self-respecting drug lord is going to send people across a (semi-) guarded border to buy semi-automatic weapons at $600-$1,000 per, when they can have all that they want of FULL auto guns from any number of sources around the world for $100-$200 each.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 9:07:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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I know. It was a rhetorical question. :-)


19 posted on 06/21/2012 9:10:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: opentalk

That’s nice, Eric, but you have no credibility.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 9:11:19 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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