Posted on 06/21/2012 5:53:20 PM PDT by Steelfish
I know somebody else mentioned a few names including Oliver North but (and correct me if I'm wrong) but how many deaths in the United States occurred because of Oliver North?
Amen to that! I'll take either of the Clinton's over Obama but would take Romney over them even though Romney was and still is my next to last choice just above Ron Paul.
Too bad it was not Newt or Allen West or Sara Palin, Herman Cain or someone like that.
Thanks sam - I’ll pass it on...
One of the best smackdowns to a liberal I’ve seen in the comments sections ever!
SharingNews
Today 01:02 AM
You mean selling guns illegally isn’t a crime? Getting a border agent murdered then covering up the details isn’t a crime? Lying to Congress isn’t a crime?
If it wasn’t a crime, why were there whistleblowers? If no crime was committed, why were people questioning the illegal sales and illegal distribution. If it wasn’t illegal, how were all those people killed? If it wasn’t illegal, how was Brian Terry murdered?
So, all of this obfuscation because you are concerned about a comparison that doesn’t exactly meet your requirements seems more like a distraction than an actual argument.
What you are saying is that you’d LIKE to think nothing illegal happened here, but nobody knows and we want to find out. This exact moment happened during Watergate. The only reason it is different to you is because 1.) nobody knows the future or what will come to light in this story so 2.) hindsight is 20/20 when you know all the information about the situation after it comes to light.
So, sorry it doesn’t fit the exact issue of wiretapping, than covering it up, than trying to get investigations to cease, but it does seem to fit the issue of illegal gun trafficking that led to murders that led to coverups that led to asking a body of government to cease an investigation in exchange for information (coverip/blackmail/immunity bargain, call it what you will), and Obama has inserted himself by claiming EP, the exact thing Nixon did when his coverups started to fail. Do you need wiretapping in the situation for the comparison to work?
There is more to this, so compare it to whatever you want, but it stinks and even you know it.
This sounds very Nixonesque! Where are the 17 minutes of erased WH recordings?
Is there a connection with Dictator Obama’s Mexican Children’s Amnesty Dictate of last week and the Obama Dictate of the Fast and Furious arming of the Mexican Mafia?
Was the ‘Fast’ code for the DOJ, and the ‘Furious’ code for the Mexican Mafia?
Will Obama be more “flexible” now with the Mexican Mafia?
Was Obama planning to sell all of the guns confiscated after his 2013 Gun Control Dictate is enforced, and sell them to the Mexican Mafia in return for votes from the fast and furious flood of Mexican illegal aliens?
Maybe Obama will issue an Executive Order ceding back to Mexico all of the territory taken by the US in the US-Mexican War?
Who in the Mexican Mafia has made large “political” donations to Dictator “You Lie” Obama?
How many of Obama’s 100 rounds of Golf were actually meetings with Mexican Mafia Leaders? After all, Obama never played golf before McCain gave him the victory in 2008.
Will AG Eric With-Holder now set the example for selective obedience to US Law for all 50 of our State Attorney Generals?
Will more of the OWS “Hope and Change” of the future be encouraged to become government lawyers?
Will it be said in the near future that America is no longer a Nation of Laws, but a Nation of Lawyers?
BTW, why did it take Rep. Issa 18 MONTHS to attempt a Constitutional Congressional Check-and-Balance on a rogue Attorney General?
Will the Sobber-of-the-House Boehner proudly announce another ‘Bipartisan Appeasement’ so that there will ‘be peace in our time?’
Know you knew all which was typed ... long story short and straight to your question concerning Mr. North ... No, no deaths known by me to which Mr. North may be blamed. Not so for obama, holder, and hillary.
I didn't like hearing that.
Nothing Newt could not have handled and his history proved it. A shame we got stuck with Romney when we had so many other better candidates. If only Santorum had dropped out sooner instead of splitting the conservative vote - but then again, that was probably his job to do just that. His man, Mitt "the real conservative" Romney is our nominee now.
It could turn out that way ... over when this Congress ends. Means one thing ... victory or defeat will take place at the ballot box. After the victory or defeat at the ballot box, if an election takes place, then one can only guess what the future will hold. Vicious cycle every two years. Then a year where not much is told to the people, then the vicious cycle begins again. Takes some getting used to. Works only when enough people vote where the cheaters cannot cheat.
Good hunting..!
And HERE, too, oh wow..! Here are his actual court pleadings:
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/Pleadings.Sinaloa.Zambada.pdf
Page 3, paragraph 2, towards the bottom of that page. The DEA would TELL the Sinaloa when they were around, to permit them to take COUNTER-MEASURES.
Nice, huh?
The Sinaloa Cartel is our PARTNER —we don’t bust them, just the OTHERS.
Obama’s l’il arragement. Let’s see them report THAT..! Ha..!
attn: post immediately above this one
Nonetheless...a fairly comprehensive article.
“It will be stonewalled till after the election”
That’s a given, but justice and truth will prevail.... It may be a cold case by then, but the truth will be known eventually.
If Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are so smart you would think they would have learned from Nixon:
It’s not the original act that gets you - it’s the cover-up that follows.
Obama is so arrogant he doesn’t think the laws of man or nature apply to him.
But he is about to come face to face with another one of his beloved “Teachable Moments”.
This time he will be on the receiving end.
No, it is B & E vs encouraging and allowing illegal sales of firearms.
ATF did not commit murder - neither did the administration (at least, not in this case, as far as we know)
Much as I’d like to hang murder on Holder, he didn’t murder those agents, nor did ATF - the drug thugs did.
What is the provenance of the piece? Who said it to who? Issa to Holder seems likely. In Congress?
Too bad this will go nowhere.If Obama is re-elected it will be covered up, with the help of the media, and suppressed.
If Romney is elected, Obama will pardon Holder and others. Can he pardon himself? Anyway, Romney will drop the whole thing in a spirit of bipartisan cooperation.
It was just an anonymous post in the comments section of the Telegraph article from “SharingNews.”
Sometimes a kernel like that restores my hope for the general awareness of people outside the “FR Bubble.”
Thankfully, the law is not that simple.
"The Principle of Principals"
principal n. 1) main person in a business. 2) employer, the person hiring and directing employees (agents) to perform his/her/its business. It is particularly important to determine who is the principal since he/she/it is responsible for the acts of agents in the "scope of employment" under the doctrine of respondeat superior. 3) in criminal law, the main perpetrator (organizer and active committer) of a crime, as distinguished from an "accessory" who helps the principal in some fashion. The criminal principal is usually the person who originated the idea of committing the crime and/or directly carries it out, and is more likely to be charged with a higher degree of the crime, and receive a stiffer prison sentence. 4) adj. chief, leading, highest. (See: agency, agent, accessory, respondeat superior)
Oh, well. Thanks.
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