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Republicans Missing Chance on Education Reform
Townhall.com ^ | June 25, 2012 | Star Parker

Posted on 06/25/2012 4:29:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

One area that awareness of the need for freedom from government control has penetrated black attitudes is in education.

The chronic failure of public schools to notably improve dismal test scores and high dropout rates of black children has made it clear to many black citizens of good will that there has got to be a better way.

Polls show black support for school choice. For example, in a poll done last year in New Jersey by the Rutgers-Eagleton Center at Rutgers University, 54 percent of blacks expressed support for school vouchers compared to 36 percent of whites.

Growing grass roots support among blacks for education alternatives surely influenced the Obama administration’s agreement, this past week, to ongoing support for the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program. The administration opposes the program and would have been perfectly happy to see its funding spigot turned off.

This is a modest program, with federal funds available now for 1,615 scholarships for kids in DC’s public schools to attend private schools. Its existence and potential for growth was at stake, with House Speaker John Boehner and Senator Joseph Lieberman carried the ball for it. The new agreement will allow it to continue, with a small provision for 85 new scholarships.

But this makes even more perplexing recent incidents where Republican state legislators have turned their backs on the education hopes of blacks.

Republicans in Pennsylvania can change the political landscape of their state by helping black aspirations for education freedom. But in a state that some analysts see as conceivably swinging into the Republican column, Republicans are blowing it.

The Pennsylvania state Senate passed a bill last year that would make vouchers available to kids in the worst 5% of public schools.

The public schools serving blacks kids in cities like Philadelphia are disasters. I know from my own survey of pastors in local churches there that hopes for this voucher initiative have been high.

Yet, by all indication it’s not going to happen.

The state House, controlled by Republicans, has been sitting on the bill. With no action before the end of the session on June 30 it will be dead.

There is talk of an alternative scholarship bill financed through tax credits. But the most optimistic estimate I have heard is that the scholarship would be worth less than half what the voucher would pay and therefore insufficient on its own to pay full tuition in a private church school.

Courageous leadership by Republicans could have captured black hearts and minds in Pennsylvania’s cities that might have paved a path to a new black relationship with Republicans.

But sadly, fear of union power rather than leadership and courage seems to be motivating these legislators.

In 2010, a similar disappointment occurred in Illinois.

In a genuine breakthrough, a black Democrat in the Illinois state Senate, Rev. James Meeks, who happens to also be the pastor of Chicago’s largest Baptist congregation, introduced a school voucher bill.

The bill passed the Illinois senate and then died in the state House, with only 25 of 48 Republicans supporting it. It fell 12 votes short of the 60 it needed to pass.

This is not an across the board indictment of Republicans. Two Republican governors – Mitch Daniels in Indiana and Bobby Jindal in Louisiana – have spearheaded passage of school voucher programs in their states.

In a new Gallup poll, only 29 percent, an all time low, express “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in our public schools.

The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of freedom and limited government. No where are these principles more needed than in education, and no community needs it more than blacks.

At a time when our country and our poor communities are hurting so badly, any failure of leadership by those in the party of Lincoln is inexcusable.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; education; mitchdaniels; schoolchoice

1 posted on 06/25/2012 4:29:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Education is a State issue, not federal.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 4:35:55 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Which is why the department of education needs to disappear.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 4:42:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Perdogg

“Education is a State issue, not federal.”

Correct, the most direct method of improving education opportunity in the US Public School System is to eliminate the US Department of Education, including it’s SWAT Teams.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 4:43:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Perdogg
Education is a State private issue, not federal government.
5 posted on 06/25/2012 4:48:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Correct, the most direct method of improving education opportunity in the US Public School System is to eliminate the US Department of Education, including it’s SWAT Teams.

...and anything that resembles a teachers union.

6 posted on 06/25/2012 4:49:26 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Texas Fossil

Unfortunately the GOP is largely hiding from those pesky issues so things can continue to get worse while they pretend to fix economic issues.

After all, we aren’t going to fix our economy while our schools continue to pump out little marxists and we allow some 30 million more to live in the country illegally.


7 posted on 06/25/2012 4:53:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin; Perdogg; cripplecreek
RE :”Growing grass roots support among blacks for education alternatives surely influenced the Obama administration’s agreement, this past week, to ongoing support for the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program. The administration opposes the program and would have been perfectly happy to see its funding spigot turned off.
This is a modest program, with federal funds available now for 1,615 scholarships for kids in DC’s public schools to attend private schools. Its existence and potential for growth was at stake, with House Speaker John Boehner and Senator Joseph Lieberman carried the ball for it. The new agreement will allow it to continue, with a small provision for 85 new scholarships.
But this makes even more perplexing recent incidents where Republican state legislators have turned their backs on the education hopes of blacks.

She is right. To be able to go into to 2004 election with credit for passing NCLB, GWB struck a deal with Kennedy and Dems to limit this program to DC, and Dems wiped it out first thing in 2009.

The Federal government shouldn't be running public schools, but if they are going to spend money there I just assume it be private school vouchers.

8 posted on 06/25/2012 4:54:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: cripplecreek; Perdogg
RE :”Which is why the department of education needs to disappear.

Let's see. Romney, Boehner and McConnell, or Obama, Reid and Pelosi, You expecting this soon?

9 posted on 06/25/2012 4:56:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs; Perdogg; cripplecreek; Texas Fossil; Kaslin

“Public School” must be eliminated.

The “public school”, including the “charter school”, is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is collectivist.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

Nobody knows your children better than you do.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

It is hypocritical for you to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. And your children will know it.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.

And DO NOT TAKE GOVERNMENT “EDUCATION” MONEY!

He that pays the piper calls the tune, and that’s especially true for any government entitlement program.


10 posted on 06/25/2012 4:59:03 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Kaslin
LLS Education Reformation Plan:

1) Eliminate the Department of Education and erase all laws and regulations implemented by that department during its existence.

2) Return all power and taxes to the Individual States and allow local control to once again work... unlike the failed system that the Fed has created.

LLS

11 posted on 06/25/2012 5:00:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Westbrook
“Public School” must be eliminated.

AMEN to that! It is the most destructive thing to ever hit the Republic. It is inherently Marxist to the core.

12 posted on 06/25/2012 5:03:41 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: Westbrook; Perdogg; cripplecreek; Texas Fossil; Kaslin
RE :”Public School” must be eliminated.

‘Must’??? Now back to planet Earth.

Private school vouchers are the best way to challenge public schools, that is why Dems fought relentlessly in 2004 to keep them out of NCLB, and pretty much succeeded.

13 posted on 06/25/2012 5:08:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs
Private school vouchers are the best way to challenge public schools...
Absolutely.
14 posted on 06/25/2012 5:09:51 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: sickoflibs

No, get RID of it...all. No more of the ‘Yell, XYZ is fine, since the nose is already under the tent’.

I’d love to see the break-out of property taxes paid for each ‘student’ (to be placed on the ballet with the ‘it’s for the children’ request for more $$); so all the retiree’s and those of us w/out children can finally have their eyes opened.


15 posted on 06/25/2012 5:12:50 AM PDT by i_robot73
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To: Westbrook

Unfortunately it won’t happen because conservatives talk a lot bigger game than the one they really have. Look at the ease with which moderate Mitt has moved the party back to the left.


16 posted on 06/25/2012 5:17:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

Those who’s offspring have ruined their own schools are of course in favor of schools-of-choice in successful school districts. Be careful of what you wish for, schools-of-choice Republicans. You just might get it.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 5:18:28 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: i_robot73
RE :”No, get RID of it...all. No more of the ‘Yell, XYZ is fine, since the nose is already under the tent’

I am sure that will be Romney, Boehner and McConnell's #1 objective, to outlaw public schools. Now back to planet Earth.

18 posted on 06/25/2012 5:22:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

>>Private school vouchers are the best way to challenge public schools, <<

It’s a start, but that’s not what’s making PS disappear.
Vouchers are just keeping a middle man in the schools.

What is being pushed in my area is tax breaks. People are homeschooling and there huge support for a break from taxes. Vouchers failed here. But most of MI (short of the cities) likes the tax breaks because it cuts the middle man.


19 posted on 06/25/2012 5:23:47 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Kaslin

Given something like PA’s proposal, which was to give inner city kids vouchers, one would think that most Republicans would, at worst, be neutral, on it - given that it would not affect their precious public schools in the suburbs, but they are not...they are just as bad as the Dem leadership.

The problem is that conservatives, in general, cannot get it THROUGH THEIR HEAD that the idea of government schools is inherently flawed. That’s why the people they elect keep voting down vouchers. Most conservatives, sadly, still think that the public schools their kids attend are ‘wonderful’ and that the bad schools are just in the next town. So the system persists and persists.


20 posted on 06/25/2012 5:32:30 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Marathoner

The only two problems with this are, that not everyone can afford private schools or is qualified to home school. So what do you propose parents do?


21 posted on 06/25/2012 5:34:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: netmilsmom; i_robot73; samtheman; Westbrook; Perdogg; cripplecreek; Texas Fossil; Kaslin
RE :”>>Private school vouchers are the best way to challenge public schools, <<
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It’s a start, but that’s not what’s making PS disappear.”

The reason why private school vouchers are such a threat to both the NEA and Dems power is because they show that there is a better alternative to shoveling more and more money to a failed system

As long as Dems can kill those alternatives, with help of a few Republicans here, they can claim that failing to spend more money is a ‘hating kids’.(more specifically 'minority kids')

What many here forget is that elected Republicans tend to be terrified of being accused of being against schools, so it continues.

In 2004 GWB cut a deal with dems on NCLB and Republicans claimed it was a brilliant political move for his re-election. You think Romney will be braver on this than GWB was?

22 posted on 06/25/2012 5:38:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

>>The reason why private school vouchers are such a threat to both the NEA and Dems power is because they show that there is a better alternative to shoveling more and more money to a failed system<<

They are a threat, but they are not “the best”.

The homeschool community is growing by leaps and bounds. In states with loose homeschool laws, districts are fighting and innovating a way to get that growing community. They are offering alternative schools, alternative methods (virtual schools) and programs where students go 13 years and walk out with an Associates Degree. All of it to keep the students.

In the meantime, Homeschooling parents are joining the Christian schools to get taxes back. This is happening in our area. The Christian schools don’t want “government money”. Many won’t take vouchers. They don’t want the government getting it’s nose under the tent. They see their cash coming from parents and want parents to keep their money.

Vouchers fell in this state for just that reason.

We are the state of Hillsdale College, who will not take money from the Government. Michigan has lead the way in homeschooling. Our laws are very loose. You may see a change coming from us.


23 posted on 06/25/2012 5:48:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: sickoflibs
You think Romney will be braver on this than GWB was?

NO. His history shows he WILL NOT.

24 posted on 06/25/2012 5:48:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Kaslin

How much does the Fed Gov spend on education?

And what does it get us?

Nothing, absolutely nothing.


25 posted on 06/25/2012 6:03:35 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: sickoflibs
You think Romney will be braver on this than GWB was?
Yes. I do. At least in general. (Not saying I'm overly optimistic on this issue.)

Bush is a better person than Romney, morally, but I think Romney is more determined to win. Much more determined to win. Bush (with Rove's help) came very close to blowing the 2004 election. Bush never, ever, really stood up to the media pukes, not once, in 8 years.

I think Romney truly has fire-in-his-belly. The problem is, what is his fuel.

26 posted on 06/25/2012 6:17:20 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: samtheman
RE :”You think Romney will be braver on this than GWB was?......
Yes. I do. At least in general. (Not saying I'm overly optimistic on this issue.)
Bush is a better person than Romney, morally, but I think Romney is more determined to win

You and I see the same things completely differently. Yes, Romney wants to ‘win’. That is why he will screw us once in office, if not sooner.

Bush wanted to ‘win’ in 2004, that is why he pushed NCLB and a new medicare entitlement, the second got him Florida, the first got him some single women votes(the Hillary vote).

None of this specifically was helpful to him or us after the election, but to those that see Bush re-election as the most critical goal it did it's job.

27 posted on 06/25/2012 6:30:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: samtheman
RE :”I think Romney truly has fire-in-his-belly.

He was pretty aggressive beating up on Perry, Newt and RS but so far his campaign against Obama looks pretty lack-luster and dull. He seems to be scared to take him on, or doesnt know how to do it and win.

28 posted on 06/25/2012 6:35:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Kaslin

We have a Dept. Of Education that does not educate.

Reform in education is getting rid of the Dept. of Education and return it to local control.


29 posted on 06/25/2012 6:53:07 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Kaslin
Well, in a perfect world (I know, I know) if you didn't have government schools you typically would no longer have a crushing property tax burden, so that would certainly help.

For those that honestly couldn't afford it, I would set up some sort of need based financial aid program, although I'm really leary of the government running it for obvious reasons.

30 posted on 06/25/2012 7:22:48 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: Kaslin

>>At a time when our country and our poor communities are hurting so badly, any failure of leadership by those in the party of Lincoln is inexcusable.<<

Not exactly. I’ll tell you what the “excuse” is for Republicans not lining up to create voucher programs in black schools. Blacks are going to vote overwhelmingly for Obama yet again.

If a subgroup of teachers, say young, beginning ones, is being mistreated by the teachers’ union, is a Republican going to go to bat for them? No. Why? Because the teachers as a group have gone all-in for the Democrat Party.

Why should it be any different for blacks? When your vote goes exclusively to one party, you’d better seek your help from the members of that party because, by your very act of voting, you’ve told the members of the other party that you don’t want their support...ever.

Not to hijack the discussion, but a good example of doing the opposite is the National Rifle Assoc. They support candidates who will support the 2nd Amendment, regardless of party. And the NRA has been wildly successful by doing so.

Black leaders (not the Sharptons, Jacksons, Barrys, et al, but black leaders at the local/state level) need to realize that Republicans, and only Republicans, are interested in voucher programs, and they need to begin to encourage their constituents to re-direct their political support to Republicans if they are to ever get the leverage required to overcome Democrats’ resistance to vouchers.


31 posted on 06/25/2012 8:05:20 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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