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Military Gay Pride: Behavior Once Grounds for Court Martial Now Celebrated
Christian Post ^ | 06/26/2012 | By Alex Murashko

Posted on 06/26/2012 11:51:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The U.S. Department of Defense's recognition of Gay Pride Month less than a year after the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) is the new "stark reality" that behavior once considered by the military as grounds for court martial is now celebrated, says the director of a chaplain alliance group.

"For the first time ever, the Department of Defense is making a positive event over behavior (sodomy) that had been a court martial offense a year ago," Chaplain (Col.) Ron Crews, USAR retired, executive director for the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, told The Christian Post on Monday. "Now the DoD is wanting to honor that behavior. That's the stark reality that we're living in now."

The Pentagon announced it will hold its first-ever Gay Pride event Tuesday. Plans for the event include a keynote speech by the DoD's lead lawyer, Jeh Johnson, followed by a panel discussion called "The value of open service and diversity," according to CNN.

Crews said the chaplain alliance is concerned about a couple of areas inside the U.S. military since the repeal of DADT, a transition period he calls the "new environment."

"During the repeal process the Department of Defense told Congress and they also told us that the homosexual community would not be considered as a separate class within the military, but yet by this celebration they are making the LGBT community a separate class," Crews said. "They told us one thing during the repeal and now they are doing exactly the opposite, which makes me wonder what else did they say prior to repeal that is going to change?"

His concerns go beyond the military's Gay Pride celebration.

"We're still in the early stages of how all this is being worked out. We're going to need some time to see what it means when a chaplain says 'no' to providing marriage or pre-marriage counseling to same-sex couples," Crews insists.

Jason Torpy, president of the Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers, released a statement Monday in which he said that he believes the military's Gay Pride events will be optional and should not be considered a threat to the evangelical community.

"The honorable concept of free expression of religion shows its dark side when teachings against homosexuality result in divisions in our military," states the atheists and freethinkers association. "While we should not encourage these divisions, it may be prudent to offer the evangelical community space to consider its attitudes and sensibilities as the rest of the military takes time to end discrimination and honor the silent service so many lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB) service members have endured for so long."

MAAF stated that they use "LGB" to refer to lesbian, gay, and bisexual while "other designations may add LGBT or LGBTQQI to identify gender identity and sexual orientation like transgender. These additional designations are not yet accommodated by the military."

Torpy told CP in an email exchange that it should be expected that "those with anti-gay religious beliefs" will object when military leaders accept and support LGB service members.

"Individuals come to the military and leave the military as individuals, private citizens with beliefs, families, interests, and whole lives that are not defined entirely by their military service. They are certainly not defined by military policy," Torpy said. "Military leaders took decades to change this policy. Current military leaders took at least two years to work through this policy change. It is unsurprising that some individuals within the military are still struggling to reconcile their anti-gay beliefs with a military that is now suddenly accepting of LGB people."

Crews is leery of the process and views the current White House administration's actions regarding gays in the military as deceptive. He questions how the military will react when a chaplain refuses to take part in an event such as Gay Pride Month. Chaplains in Crews' association will not participate, he said.

"Military celebrations usually require or have a place for a chaplain to provide an invocation or something," Crews said. "Associates of the Chaplain Alliance would not be able to participate in those types of ceremonies. We're concerned that if a chaplain says 'no,' how will Command view that? We are trusting that commanders will honor and respect that chaplains prerogative to say 'no' that he would not participate."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; dontaskdonttell; gaypride; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; military; worldisgoingbonkers

1 posted on 06/26/2012 11:51:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

fragbait...


2 posted on 06/26/2012 11:54:12 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: SeekAndFind

MAAF stated that they use “LGB” to refer to lesbian, gay, and bisexual while “other designations may add LGBT or LGBTQQI to identify gender identity and sexual orientation like transgender. These additional designations are not yet accommodated by the military.”

Use the shorter version...fruits!


3 posted on 06/26/2012 11:54:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

DADT was a big deal that nobody would taoch. Not Limbaugh, not Hannity, no one. The military was it, now it is gone. There is nothing left to cling to as far as FedGov™ goes. It is corrupt from stem to stern.


4 posted on 06/26/2012 11:56:44 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Hadn't heard of this one. I must lead a sheltered life!

LGBTQQI

5 posted on 06/26/2012 11:58:40 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

Will they pass out free copeis of (Bradley Manning’s) Lady GaGa CD’s?


6 posted on 06/26/2012 11:58:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are trusting that commanders will honor and respect that chaplains prerogative to say ‘no’ that he would not participate.”

Now I believe they will be able to not participate, but 5-10 years from now, No Way! They will have to participate and be happy about it.


7 posted on 06/26/2012 11:59:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

Promotion of Vice——is, well, Vice. Machiavelli stated that the most important way to keep power for any nation was a VIRTUOUS military. Immoral militaries can never be trusted to be loyal and usually will turn on their own citizens or leaders (Russia/Nazi/Chinese were non-God based militaries which were far from Virtuous.) Of course, they are inhumane and never free-—so their government has to be brutal to retain control.

Zero is now actively destroying the military-—once which strictly supported Christian Ethics. He threw out God and replaced him with Satan and now they are glorifying excrement.

Justice-—a virtue— would never allow the promotion of disgusting, degrading, unnatural acts-—esp. in the US since our Natural Rights come from God—not a pervert like Barney Frank.


8 posted on 06/26/2012 12:00:13 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeekAndFind

Historians will look back on the repeal of DADT as the beginning of the end. If there will be historians in the World Wide Caliphate.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 12:01:42 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

...
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


10 posted on 06/26/2012 12:02:32 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Menehune56

RE: LGBTQQI

What the heck is the ‘I’ for and what do these people (if you can call them that ) do?


11 posted on 06/26/2012 12:03:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Photobucket Fear the gay soldier....
12 posted on 06/26/2012 12:04:15 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: central_va

It certainly doesn’t “represent” me, so why I should I pay for most of it’s leviathan crap??


13 posted on 06/26/2012 12:06:15 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately, according to some teenagers, going into the military has become a gay thing.

It’s made recruitment even more difficult.


14 posted on 06/26/2012 12:07:07 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: SeekAndFind; humblegunner; Eaker; Salamander; TheOldLady; Morgana; Markos33; BlackElk; ...
For those seeking an education in classic literature, the reading of Edward Gibbon is now optional.

We have a live performance daily.

(Starring our very own Commodus.)
15 posted on 06/26/2012 12:10:03 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

buggery in the service does not deserve a thank you.


16 posted on 06/26/2012 12:11:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind
Do you think Mittens... if elected... will repeal the repeal?
17 posted on 06/26/2012 12:12:26 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Plans for the event include a keynote speech by the DoD's lead lawyer Overlord ...followed by a panel discussion indoctrination called "The value compulsory acceptance of open service and diversity"...


There. Fixed it.

How's that diversity been working out so far?

ARMY CHIEF-OF-STAFF: “LOSS OF DIVERSITY AT FORT HOOD WOULD BE GREATER TRAGEDY THAN LOSS OF LIFE”
Defends Muslims Madness
Posted by thelastcrusade - November 11th, 2009

General George Casey, the highest ranking officer in the U.S. Army, said that the deaths of 12 soldiers and one civilian at Foot Hood would become a far greater tragedy “if our diversity becomes a casualty.”

Appearing on “Meet the Press,” Major Casey warned the media that “it is way too soon to draw conclusions” concerning the motive of Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

He upheld the strategy of keeping Muslims – - even radical Muslims – - in key military positions by saying: “Our diversity is our strength.”

“We have to be broad enough to bring in people from all walks of life,” the General said.

The Army’s Chief-of-Staff asserted: As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

General Casey further said that the army hadn’t “missed anything” in regard to the in-your-face warning signs exhibited by Major Hasan that he was a fanatical Muslim jihadist and an imminent threat to massacre U.S. troops.

18 posted on 06/26/2012 12:17:51 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Head Quarters, V. Forge, Saturday, March 14, 1778.

At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778) Lieutt. Enslin28 of Colo. Malcom’s Regiment tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false Accounts, found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and do sentence him to be dismiss’d the service with Infamy.

His Excellency the Commander in Chief (GEORGE WASHINGTON) approves the sentence and with Abhorrence and Detestation of such Infamous Crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning by all the Drummers and Fifers in the Army never to return; The Drummers and Fifers to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose.

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mgw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28gw110081%29%29))

Note: Make sure the )) is on the end of the link!


19 posted on 06/26/2012 12:20:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

A fellow freeper here said it best...

“When I joined the military, that kind of behavior was prohibited. Today, it is now accepted. I want to retire before it becomes mandatory”!


20 posted on 06/26/2012 12:23:44 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Just don't have a tagline today. This administration makes me quite sad.)
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To: 3boysdad

No. Not when the daughter of the former vP has married her female partner. The national elite has decided that gay is ok. In fact any sexual activity is ok. Except hitting on minors, but that exception will soon disappear.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 12:31:15 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Proving again that the brass will do what is necessary to protect what is most important them: their careers. Casey is a prostitute.


22 posted on 06/26/2012 12:33:50 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind

holy shreaking Queers, batman!


23 posted on 06/26/2012 12:38:08 PM PDT by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

holy shreaking Queers, batman!


24 posted on 06/26/2012 12:38:14 PM PDT by brivette
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To: RobbyS

God disagrees.

That’s *all* that matters.

The rest is pointless pantomime.


25 posted on 06/26/2012 1:16:00 PM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: RobbyS
Except hitting on minors, but that exception will soon disappear.

Given the pace of this latest item on the progressive agenda, I'd give that particular exception about 3 weeks.

26 posted on 06/26/2012 1:27:21 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe that the left has been diligent in corrupting and politicizing both the military and law enforcement. When they succeed (and I fear they will), the leadership of both bodies will then be loyal to politicians and their ideologies rather than to our laws and founding principles. God help us then.


27 posted on 06/26/2012 1:27:26 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: SeekAndFind
And next the men of the Second Armoured Division regale us with their famous close order swanning about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1j0Pjw5ye4

28 posted on 06/26/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: SeekAndFind
The U.S. Department of Defense's recognition of Gay Pride Month less than a year after the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) is the new "stark reality"

What other groups in the military have a month set aside for special recognition? This is pathetic.

29 posted on 06/26/2012 2:21:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I agree, it is. The worst thing that I ever worry about is when some employee whines about what isn’t fair to them at work as part of some team. Now take this to the military where your job is to pretty much face up to people that will be beyond oppressive and flat-out brutal if they catch you, and honestly, I doubt they will somehow treat any American soldier with kindness if taken POW, or simply encountered on the battlefield, nicely, simply because he makes some indication that he/she is homosexual, the enemy will not care. If anything, whining to your captors or enemies in battle is only asking for sheer brutality from them.

I simply have got that bad feeling that America’s enemies in the coming years are going to be more empowered and deliver a lot of hurt, if political correctness is let loose in our military.


30 posted on 06/26/2012 6:22:27 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: VR-21

Worse than that, the military will be as corrupt, if not worse, than the political system, given enough time. In the Nazi Regime, both soldiers and SS officers were so incredibly corrupt, that over the years, numerous accounts, including even those in supervisory positions, have come out to show that being bribed or persuaded by sexual favors was rampant in the nazi regime. The same also turned out to be true of the Soviet military, it became a force that became so bribed down and drunk that we could actually, by the late 1970s and early 1980s, fly U-2 spy planes over Russia, and not see them get shot down, whereas they could capture our spy planes back in the 1960s with their MiGs. If anything, a military without discipline and some form of enforced morality is one highly prone to corruption, and highly prone to possible division. Even loyalty to politicians won’t be guaranteed, as given the corruption from bribery at a high potential, we could very well see something like Afghanistan, where the military is split into tribes, based on the wealth and terror of individual generals. Without a form of enforced morality, a military is weaker, and not guaranteed to really hold together.


31 posted on 06/26/2012 6:30:56 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: RobbyS

Prostitute, really, shouldn’t a soldier in uniform not be a prostitute, regardless of gender, much less gender preference?

Where did you come across the information mentioning that Casey was a prostitute?

If so, I would like to know, because any sources that point out the real lies of political correctness would be great.


32 posted on 06/26/2012 6:34:23 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Lackey, then? Diversity,indeed. They would introduce pink berets if their master wanted it.


33 posted on 06/26/2012 8:01:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: shibumi

“The Pentagon announced it will hold its first-ever Gay Pride event Tuesday. Plans for the event include a keynote speech by the DoD’s lead lawyer, Jeh Johnson, followed by a panel discussion called ‘The value of open service and diversity,’ according to CNN.”

You’d think that winning the War on Terror would be a goal......*sigh*

We have young men and young women dying in Trashcanistan and THIS is the big concern ?!

If this isn’t a sign that we’re in complete and total decline, then I don’t know what is.


34 posted on 06/26/2012 8:43:32 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:58:59......)
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