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Will John Roberts be remembered in history the same as Benedict Arnold?

Posted on 06/28/2012 7:39:44 AM PDT by Sybeck1

When some is called a Benedict Arnold he is deemed a traitor. Will being called a John Roberts go to mean the same?


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1 posted on 06/28/2012 7:39:44 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

Yes...next question.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sybeck1

Why the hell do I keep on supporting Republicans?? WHY?


3 posted on 06/28/2012 7:43:54 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: Sybeck1

Justice Roberts was just following a logical construct in combing the curliques out of the very fuzzy thinking that created this bill in the first place. Declaring the “mandate” a tax, shifts this back into play as a revenue measure, and as such, those parts that did NOT originate in the House of Representatives, should have no standing.

And is a dandy reason to proceed with repeal of the existing law, as increasing taxes in an economic downturn is altogether in contradiction of all Keynesian Theory.

Now, Obama has become the most avaricious tax-and-grab occupant of the Oval Cubicle since FDR, and as such, the Republicans have the biggest club they could possibly have, just handed to them. His erstwhile supporters have just collectively zipped shut their deep pockets, which does not bode well for continued monetary support of his re-election campaign.

And they probably won’t have the fortitude to lift it.

Where is Mitt on this? We should have had a statement already.


4 posted on 06/28/2012 7:44:07 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: Sybeck1

D@mned straight.


5 posted on 06/28/2012 7:44:22 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Sybeck1

This is a trick question....Right?


6 posted on 06/28/2012 7:44:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: Sybeck1

This is no different than when the Supreme Court upheld slavery, and condemned people to slavery based on the color of their skin.

Now, they have upheld slavery of the ENTIRE American people to the Government, by saying that it is constitutional for EVERY American to be FORCED into a purchase agreement.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 7:44:34 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Sybeck1

Benedict Arnold actually did something useful for us at one point.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 7:45:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: dfwgator

This one really IS Bush’s fault.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 7:45:42 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Sybeck1

John Roberts is a traitor.


10 posted on 06/28/2012 7:45:52 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sybeck1
This IS Bushes fault.
11 posted on 06/28/2012 7:45:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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Roberts, he is one first class stupid jackass.


12 posted on 06/28/2012 7:45:59 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Sybeck1

Eff John Roberts. He knew The Kenyan is not a Natural Born Citizen, yet he swore him in.

And now this??

This is why I’ve always said the SCOTUS does not matter when picking a presidential candidate. You can’t trust any court. Even these Supremes.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 7:46:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sybeck1

Roberts and the supreme court thought Obama scorned them in one of his State of the Union messages. They haven’t seen anything yet.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 7:46:30 AM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: Sybeck1

I used to say that there were only 2 things that Bush got right......now it’s down to one.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 7:47:02 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: Sybeck1

Johnny "Weasel" Roberts Eyes

16 posted on 06/28/2012 7:47:06 AM PDT by Amagi (I challenge Barack Obama to call this Tea Party Patriot a "tea bagger" to my face.)
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To: alloysteel

Why would he have bothered with all that subterfuge, when by his vote the entire law could have been struck down? In his opinion Roberts states that it is the court’s duty to preserve unconstitutional law. Where the hell does that come from?


17 posted on 06/28/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: Sybeck1

Why the hell do I keep on supporting Republicans?? WHY?


18 posted on 06/28/2012 7:47:39 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: Sybeck1

It’s time to build the gallows.


19 posted on 06/28/2012 7:48:08 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Sybeck1

Well we should have let Bush have his first pick. She was a not going to do what Big John did today.


20 posted on 06/28/2012 7:48:18 AM PDT by factmart
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To: VanDeKoik

Can’t believe anyone is surprised, we were forewarned, Ginsberg gave the Obama the thumbs up signal to Obama several days ago in her interview. She should be impeached for that act alone.


21 posted on 06/28/2012 7:48:33 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Sybeck1

Yes!

And that witch-woman Pelosi tweeted his vote in advance (was it yesterday?).

TRAITOR


22 posted on 06/28/2012 7:49:17 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Sybeck1

Roberts had a huge deposit made in a Swill bank account for him. He is set for life.


23 posted on 06/28/2012 7:49:47 AM PDT by george123
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To: alloysteel

Here’s what I don’t get: The law as passed, didn’t mention this healthcare bill was a “TAX”. So how in the hell does Roberts, just because lawyers argued that congress has the power to TAX, say it is constitutional?????

Roberts is definitely a creep. IMO, this was a huge over-reach on his part.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:02 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Sybeck1
This was a clear attempt of an intimidated jurist to stay out of the political crosshairs during an election year. In seeking to avoid politics, Roberts has thrust the Court into the bullseye the political arena.

This activism illustrates that a house-cleaning needs to begin at every level of the judiciary.

25 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:51 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sybeck1

And the damn S.C. and every politician in D.C. will not have to abide by it, because they are exempted from all of this crap.


26 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:11 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: alloysteel
the Republicans have the biggest club they could possibly have, just handed to them

And THAT is the Silver Lining. :-)

27 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:35 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Sybeck1

Backstabbing piece of shyte!!! I am beyond angry. A dark day for America. Mitt claims he would void 0-care via Executive Order. I doubt he has the cojones. We are @*%@&ed by the socialist and collectivists

Plus the SJ said to 0bama...You can keep the borders open to further disfranchise productive America, traditional America, law abiding America


28 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:40 AM PDT by dennisw
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Recall that Roberts held a special second swearing-in ceremony for Zero at the White House.


29 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:55 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: ransacked
Why the hell do I keep on supporting Republicans?? WHY?

Are you over the (r) thing now? Because we need to support CONSERVATIVES.

Roberts was never conservative. He doesn't believe in private property rights.

30 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:07 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Sybeck1

He is every bit as much a traitor as Arnold ... worse, in fact. He is an oathbreaker, just like 0bama, kagan, sotomayor, ginsberg, and breyer, and every worthless fascist democRat in congress that voted for this abomination.


31 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sybeck1
I hope the son-of-a-bitch traitor dies of a slow dibilitating disease.
32 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Sybeck1

He can burn in hell with the left bloc of the court.
God bless Justices Thomas, Scalia, and Alito.


33 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:21 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Sybeck1

No. Benedict Arnold was a man of principle. Roberts is a boot licking toad


34 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:21 AM PDT by Nifster
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Time for a revolution. Our forefathers did so for much less tyranny.

Roberts is a leftist. Bush should have picked Janice Rogers Brown who said things Like:

Janice Rogers Brown On American Government
Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible. [“A Whiter Shade of Pale,” Speech to Federalist Society (April 20. 2000)(“Federalist speech” at 8]Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled; community impoverished; religion marginalized and civilization itself jeopardized....When did government cease to be a necessary evil and become a goody bag to solve our private problems? [“Hyphenasia: the Mercy Killing of the American Dream,” Speech at Claremont-McKenna College (Sept. 16, 1999) at 3,4]In the last 100 years – and particularly in the last 30 – ...[g]overnment has been transformed from a necessary evil to a nanny – benign, compassionate, and wise. Sometimes transformation is a good thing. Sometimes, though, it heralds not higher ground but rather, to put a different gloss on Pat Moynihan’s memorable phrase, defining democracy down. [“Fifty Ways to Lose Your Freedom,” Speech to Institute of Justice (Aug. 12, 2000)(“IFJ speech”) at 2][W]e no longer find slavery abhorrent. We embrace it. We demand more. Big government is not just the opiate of the masses. It is the opiate. The drug of choice for multinational corporations and single moms; for regulated industries and rugged Midwestern farmers and militant senior citizens. [IFJ speech at 3-4]Government acts as a giant siphon, extracting wealth, creating privilege and power, and redistributing it. [Speech at McGeorge School of Law (Nov. 21, 1997) at 18][See also Landgate, Inc. v. California Coastal Commission, 953 P.2d 1188, 1212 (Cal. 1998)(Brown, J., dissenting)(referring to government as “relentless siphon.”)]

Janice Rogers Brown on the New Deal, the Great Society, and the “transmutation” of the Constitution
I have argued that collectivism was (and is) fundamentally incompatible with the vision that undergirded this country’s founding. The New Deal, however, inoculated the federal Constitution with a kind of underground collectivist mentality. The Constitution itself was transmuted into a significantly different document...1937...marks the triumph of our own socialist revolution


35 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:36 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: crosshairs

It is time for revolution/violent opposition, then gallows.


36 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: Sybeck1

Clearly, they have blackmail material on Roberts...

No other explanation corresponds with his votes from the bench this week.


37 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:50 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive vicitm!)
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To: Sybeck1

He will be at least spoken of along side such luminaries as David Souter.


38 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:53 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sybeck1

Worse


39 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:31 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: G Larry
Clearly, they have blackmail material on Roberts...

He looks like a fag to me.

40 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sybeck1

Arnold only sold out The Country once; Roberts has already sold out The Country TWICE this week alone, and he ins in the position FOR LIFE!


41 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (An Appeal to Heaven)
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I remember back when Roberts was nominated people did give a warning that he tended to favor government power. He might believe that gov’t can ban abortions but as this case and the previous case regarding marijuana growing purely for personal consumption shows he also believes gov’t has broad powers to tell you what you can do and not do unless there is an explicit prohibition to said gov’t power in the Constitution. Madison warned us about these types indirectly when he argued that the risk of having a Bill of Rights is people will tend to view the gov’t as being able to do anything as long as it was not prohibited in the Bill of Rights.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:36 AM PDT by C19fan
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The pirate Roberts is doing what he was placed on the court to do, and that is not to uphold OUR Constitution.


43 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ransacked
Why the hell do I keep on supporting Republicans?? WHY?

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Truth be known about the 41/43 dynasty...
...from x41 down thru all the boys....

CJ of SCOTUS leanings wouldn't be so much of a surprise.

jmho....

44 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Sybeck1

Another Bush gets Soutered.


45 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:52 AM PDT by Bevo
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To: Responsibility2nd
This is why I’ve always said the SCOTUS does not matter when picking a presidential candidate.

It matters. Leftist ideologue presidents appoint leftist ideologue justices and those justices seldom stray. We know what we'll get from Obama and Clinton appointees and we rarely hear of any of them voting with conservatives on the court.

46 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:55 AM PDT by Will88
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How is he a traitor? He will be remembered as a great progressive just like Bush was!

That’s the whole point here. The GOP and DEM party are infected with the progressive disease.

Bush enabled the housing crisis...
Bush abandoned the free markets...
Bush enabled the bail-outs...
Bush enabled Obama to get elected...
Bush nominated Roberts...

Now Roberts just finished what Bush started...the total destruction of America.


47 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:58 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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Traitor John Roberts needs to have a Garand old time.
48 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:10 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: ransacked
Have you not heard the Good Word preached daily her by the team wearing "R" on their Jerseys? Do as your told and vote for MIttens, so we can get Conservative SC judges. Oh, and vote for Republicans, and all will be all right. Be prepared, and enjoy the Ride! This Summer is going to be Crazy!

Peace MCB

49 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:13 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: alloysteel
Where is Mitt on this? We should have had a statement already.

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Urging patience...
More important to get it right than get it fast...

jmho....

50 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:24 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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