Skip to comments.Iím Not Down on John Roberts
Posted on 06/28/2012 10:09:41 AM PDT by Jedidah
. . . I get the strong sense from a few anecdotal stories about Roberts over the past few months and the way he has written this opinion that he very, very much was concerned about keeping the Supreme Court above the partisan fray and damaging the reputation of the Court long term. . . .
Second, in writing his case, Roberts forces everyone to deal with the issue as a political, not a legal issue. . . Third, while Roberts has expanded the taxation power, which I dont really think is a massive expansion from what it was, Roberts has curtailed the commerce clause as an avenue for Congressional overreach.
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Robert’s an idiot. He says Congress can tax nothing.
The new tax will now be known as the “Roberts Tax.”
In my opinion, this paves the way and lays the ground work that will allow the government to mandate that every citizen must possess on their person - at all times - an identification, such as a mark, in order to conduct any type of transaction, health care, economic, or otherwise.
Not his job. He's not a schoolyard monitor. If his conscience can allow him to sleep at night without chemical aids, he's a psychopath.
The John Roberts' court just ended Freedom and Liberty.
We will be Nazi Germany in six months !
Screw reputation, what about looking at the Constitution and looking out for the People's rights?
I don’t think one guy’s opinion of Roberts is breaking news.
Can the G. make me buy stuff?
Clearly the “voice of reason” thinks they can. He is sub-human filth.
While Roberts is right, he DID decide on government tyranny which is AGAINST the Constitution.
Dread Pirate Roberts.
roberts is simply this century’s Roger B. Taney, offering the most idiotic of notions folded into carefully crafted rhetoric.
What comes next is on his shoulders.
I’m not down on him either. He has vindicated Joe Wilson and publicly called Bambi a liar - as has the liberals on the court.
Remember - all along Bambi proclaimed this was not a tax, even while his administration told the court it was a tax - the court ruled it is a tax - ergo, Bambi is a liar.
How does this keep it above the partisan fray, when the majority of the people hate it?
Based on his past 2 descisions, Roberts is a liberal. Wouldn’t be surprised if he constantly voted with the other libs from now on. Thanks W. Greet job in vetting this clown.
One good thing in this is that Americans won’t be feeling sorry for Obama in November.
You’re wrong. It is a massive expansion of government power. Regardless of whether Obamacare is repealed this is judicial precedent giving the feds the power to mandate anything they want. Roberts is a tool.
Ignorant statement. What kind of tax is it? You're being taxed for not buying something, so it can't be a sales tax. It is independent of income, so it is not an income tax. It is not levied on a commodity being purchased, so it is not an excise tax. You can avoid it by buying an insurance policy, so it is not a head tax.
What kind of "tax" is this? A previously unknown form? The answer of course is that it is not a tax at all. It is a financial penalty for unapproved but legal behavior. Calling it a tax does not make it one. Roberts has sold out, for what mess of pottage god only knows
The ruling says it is not his job to decide whether the laws we pass are good for us or not.
In other words, if this law is good or bad is not up to him- he just decides if it was constitutionally passed or not
We the people get whatever we vote for- in this case they crammed it down our throats, but we voted these turds into office
Now we have to vote others in who will repeal this.
Being a “glass is half full” kinda guy, I am going to say THIS GIVES US OUR MAIN ISSUE for 2012
No GOP has to spend money on anything else other than to say YES I will repeal it
We could win in a landslide because of this.
Obamacare should be a political decision, not legal. Therefore I concur with CJ Roberts on this. Congress has the power to tax anything and everything in any amount they can get passed.
This should energize Tea-Party voters and therefore is a net plus for November 2012 elections.
But he didn't. Instead, he chose to throw his lot in with the Court's liberal hacks.
He chose poorly.
A voice of reason”
Well, not really. The idea of “on to Congressional repeal!” would be fine, except that we now live in the era of everything-must-pass-the-Senate-with-60-votes.
And the GOP isn’t going to get 60 votes in 2012.
Even if they get it in 2014, that will be too late.
Yes, Roberts saved his reputation among his law school faculty buddies. They will sing his praises for his “courage”
But the country has been altered, again, and most likely there is no going back.
Dammit. I feel sick to my stomach today.
You’re right, Jedidah. Erickson’s piece IS a voice of reason today. BTW, he apparently actually took time to READ the opinion, unlike most of the kneejerk flamers.
Third, while Roberts has expanded the taxation power, which I dont really think is a massive expansion from what it was, Roberts has curtailed the commerce clause as an avenue for Congressional overreach.
...is wrong. It's a pretty massive expansion.
AND THE COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT THE
"INDIVIDUAL MANDATE THAT ISN'T AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"
PLUS: THE EXECUTIVE, THE LEGISLATIVE, AND THE JUDICIAL BRANCHES
OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Hear this citizens
Be ye still knaves, know your place, or else!
CREDIT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY/MARXISTS UNITED AND
THE COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT THE PRESIDENT
Those decisions are entrusted to our Nations elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.
Time to get out from behind the computers and get to work...Just like our forefathers we throw the government out. In our case it's through election and not with guns. Donate, register neighbors, pass out fliers, get involved. We need sixty senators, a Real leader as President and the House.
A voice of *irrational* reason. A traitor of the highest order. HE had the power to stop this usurpation of rights, and YOU are sanguine about some fool trying to give him cover. Bob
Violating the Constitution because of political fears is not a reasonable response.
Does anyone think that Obama won’t appoint an even worse Communist to the court next chance he gets?
Or that Bishop Romney won’t also appoint another extreme leftist to the court, as he did while governor of Massachusetts?
Not fighting back only encourages these traitors.
“....the way he has written this opinion that he very, very much was concerned about keeping the Supreme Court above the partisan fray and damaging the reputation of the Court long term. . .”
Well, for those that think in real world, functional terms he has done EXACTLY that-damaged the reputation of the Supreme Court.
But I guess he is only concerned about the opinion of useless academics, and legal historians...
Obama predicted this correctly.. The SCOTUS did go ‘activist’ on this decision.
How does this keep it above the partisan fray, when the majority of the people hate it?”
And Roberts was supposed to be avoiding the dreaded 5-4 decisions because they are so divisive.
So he comes down with the lesbians and the liberals for a 5-4.
John “Souter” Roberts.
It’s a disgrace.
(And, incidentally, the hand of the Bushes hurts us yet again....)
No, it’s the new 0bama tax. Republicans would do well to advertise it liberally.
If Mr Romney wins in November I would be pleased to see him repeal this bill, and then require every household to purchase firearms. Those that do not comply will be hit with a tax (not a mandate)for non compliance.
A Pox on Roberts.
No, the role of the Supreme Court is to be a check on Congress. Just because Congress passes a law doesn't make it constitutional. The Supreme Court has overturned congressional acts many times.
We’ll compromise and call it the Obama-Roberts Tax.
“One good thing in this is that Americans wont be feeling sorry for Obama in November.”
And the money will be rolling in to the Republicans in donations large and small. The only question is, to the Republicans have the balls to man up and lead, because they have a poor record in recent years.
You and Roberts and stoopid Erioc are full of BS
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's a good one.
I was thinking about this very thing. To me, it most resembles a civil fine.
Erik Erickson is an idiot, too. If he doesn’t think Roberts is a traitor to freedom, then he’s a complete effing idiot.
I read the the opinion. Its a disaster. “First, and most importantly, it is abundantly clear the Constitution does not guarantee that individuals may avoid taxation through inactivity” (Page 41) “The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance.” (Page 44)
Roberts is just part of the machine that was built to destroy this country. He has fully revealed himself this week.
The precedent has been set. The United States is gone.
And, now we have to rely on Mitt Romney, who gave Obama the blueprint for Obamacare, to overturn it.
and obamacare still stands and we are still screwed. this expanded governments power as did the ruling on the arizona law. Get real...wake up and smell the tyranny
Oh the irony of Robert’s claiming Congress is the body that is charged with passing unconstitutional legislation.
I’d sure love to see his copy of the document.
You’re the idiot. Where did he say Congress can tax nothing? He said that Obama care IS A TAX, a fact that Obama and his minions expressly denied, saying it was passed under the commerce clause. If I understand this correctly the ball is back in Congress’ court, they can hold it there until next January.
except that we now live in the era of everything-must-pass-the-Senate-with-60-votes.”
I just got an email from Sen Cornyn and the NRSC. It talks about getting a majority and repealing obamacare.
It doesn’t even mention the need to break the “filibuster”.
If I were cynical, I’d say that this is exactly what the “conservatives” in Congress want. They want the liberal agenda to advance slowly, so that they can rail against it and ensure their re-election...but not really do anything about it. Ineffectively railing against socialism but doing nothing is the right’s version of racism.
Does Cornyn reall want to repeal obamacare? Again, if I were a cynic, I’d say, “nah...what he wants to do is raise money by calling for repeal”.
Yes, of desperate, convoluted reason. Roberts has sanctioned the most despicable, behind-closed-doors, partisan Congressional bill in history, one that could not have passed but by bribery, kickbacks and betrayal of the so-called pro-life Democrats, one that is massively opposed by the majority of the public. It gives the Pompous One an advantage in November. The next election will indeed be about judges, as 3 of the current judges are nearing retirement. It is impossible to rationalize anything good about Robert’s own constitutional betrayal. Maybe he didn’t want Obama to criticize the court in his next State of the Nation speech. Anyway you look at it, today was a tragic day for our constitutional republic, and Roberts has sealed his reputation for all time.