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Minutes Silence for Munich Massacre Victims Rejected ('too political' apparently)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18640141 ^ | BBC

Posted on 06/29/2012 3:36:09 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan

Calls for the victims of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre to be remembered with a minute's silence at the opening of the London 2012 Games have been rebuffed by the organisers.

Ankie Spitzer has campaigned unsuccessfully for the act of remembrance since the atrocity.

Her husband - fencing coach Andre Spitzer - was one of 11 Israeli athletes and trainers killed when the Palestinian "Black September" organisation attacked apartments in the Olympic village and took them hostage in what was the darkest chapter in Olympic history.

The world looked on in horror as friendly competition was replaced by killing and bloodshed.

Many of those who died, including a West German police officer, were killed in a botched rescue effort.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; englishantisemitism; germanantisemitism; israel; london; olympicantisemitism; olympics; palestine; sonderkommandos; sourcetitlenoturl; terrorism; unitedkingdom; waronterror
Outrageous, but not totally unexpected that the powers that be are pandering to Arab racism by insulting the memory of dead Israeli athletes. Would it be any real loss to the world to see the Arab athletes walk out and boycott the games in these circumstances?
1 posted on 06/29/2012 3:36:22 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Not to mention the natural European anti-Semitism that went underground in the years following World War II. Since so many Euros were slaughtered in that war (the most manly, aggressive), the Euros left over were passive and effeminate. However, they let the Muslims immigrate so now they’re anti-Semitic by proxy.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 3:40:39 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesn’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

These bastards are Chicago thugs!


3 posted on 06/29/2012 3:41:29 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Next.........Krystalnacht II?


4 posted on 06/29/2012 4:01:43 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I won’t be watching any Olympic games, for this and other reasons. I’m old and still have very fresh memories of this horrific event. They should have more than just a “moment’ of silence. (Trying to self control a rant....)


5 posted on 06/29/2012 4:26:58 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Idea: Israeli athletes step out of line during the opening ceremonies, sit in w circle and say a prayer of remembrance.


6 posted on 06/29/2012 4:31:34 AM PDT by montag813
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
in what was the darkest chapter in Olympic history.

....and a lesson that apparently was never taken seriously and since has lead to the death of thousands and still the potential of millions

7 posted on 06/29/2012 4:35:26 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: montag813
...it would be interesting to see who would join in.....YOU SHOULD WRITE TO THE Israeli Olympic Committee with your idea
8 posted on 06/29/2012 4:39:13 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If those killed were anything but Israeli, this would be a no-brainer.


9 posted on 06/29/2012 4:59:42 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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10 posted on 06/29/2012 5:05:10 AM PDT by SJackson (blow in a dog’s face, he gets mad at you, take him on a car ride; he sticks his head out the window)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Since so many Euros were slaughtered in that war (the most manly, aggressive)

Often said, but doesn't stand up to serious scrutiny, for many reasons. Among these are the fact that most combatants, on all sides, were conscripts, and conscription doesn't select for those qualities; and in any case the indiscriminate, industrial scale of the killing in modern warfare means that an individual's character has no bearing on the likelihood of his death.

11 posted on 06/29/2012 5:19:34 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Actually, it did. German, British, and Soviet tactics included using soldiers to take a position, generally by pinning the defense down with frontal fire and soldiers trying to flank them. This resulted in the most aggressive and bravest most likely to die.

American tactics were different. If American troops came up against a difficult position, they'd call in artillery or an air strike.

This isn't to denigrate the bravery and courage of anybody's troops. What it meant, was that the Americans, in the words of German troops after the war, "fought a rich man's war". The Soviets, Germans, Brits, French, etc. didn't always have the available armament or weaponry to do what the Americans could do at all times. This is also why the Americans were the most aggressive troops at the end of the war (followed by the Soviets, but that was because they were fueled by Vodka).

12 posted on 06/29/2012 6:15:02 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesn’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

For Britain, the most devastating war in terms of people lost was the first world war, which cost millions of lives, and was more based on full frontal assault tactics. By contrast, British casualties ‘only’ numbered in the hundreds of thousands during WWII. If your Darwinian hypothesis held true, it would suggest that the first world war would have been the conflict that reduced Britain to a nation of cowards, and yet Britain continued to fight the Second World War in spite of odds that looked far less favourable in the early stages than at any time during the earlier war...


13 posted on 06/29/2012 6:49:50 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Notice the bulk of their fighting WAS on the sea and in the air, where they maintained a certain superiority. The ground troops were routed in 6 weeks in France, and surrendered Singapore to a ragged, exhausted Japanese force that snuck up on them from behind.

Montgomery was a VERY cautious general, only attacking after he had built up enough forces and had enough intel from ULTRA to strike at el-Alamein.

I admit my generalizations are just that, generalizations. I'm sure that today you have hardcore snake-eating Germans, Brits, French, and Russians even today. However, they're not in the size and quantity that we have in America.

14 posted on 06/29/2012 7:10:39 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesn’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

They are generalisations, and they are inaccurate. Britain has fought wars since WWII were victory was not guaranteed. When was the last time American troops fought a war like the Falklands, where the enemy adversary had the means to defeat and destroy the task force.
As you yourself admit, America has the firepower and logistics to waste anything in its path easily and with considerably less risk to its own soldiers. Britain has not had this luxury and yet has fought battles and wars on limited resources and still won the fight. In the 20th Century, Britain and its troops have been forced to fight under conditions far more adverse than anything America has had to face since the US Civil War, well beyond living memory...


15 posted on 06/29/2012 7:26:15 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: MuttTheHoople

Besides which, I seem to recall that in the early stages, US Forces were also ignonimously routed from the Phillipines and various Pacific islands. It had little to do with bravery, and everything to do with being caught out and strategically outmaneuvered...


16 posted on 06/29/2012 7:44:36 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: MuttTheHoople; sinsofsolarempirefan

I’ve no doubt what you say in this post is true, but the numbers involved simply aren’t enough to have the permanent consequences on the national character you claim. Any geneticist will tell you that, terrible as they were, the numbers lost, in proportion to the total male population, could not have had a serious impact on the gene pool. Remember also that the genes of those who did die survived, as often as not, in siblings too young or too old to fight, or in children conceived before their deaths. The casualties came from a quite narrow age band; and there’s no logic in supposing that the qualities you mention were not present, in equal proportion, in those who happened not to be of fighting age when the war took place. All this is true even with the much larger losses of the First World War.


17 posted on 06/30/2012 12:50:21 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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Thanks sinsofsolarempirefan.


18 posted on 06/30/2012 6:15:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I haven’t watched an Olympiad in at least a decade. Last I saw, the women’s gymnastics had degenerated into exotic dancing with a ball or some other prop, and I turned it off. So to me it’s a question of which athletic events to not watch this year. Arab athletes walk out. Arab athletes stay in. They have a moment of silence. They don’t. I could care less.


19 posted on 06/30/2012 3:10:03 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Plus guest who had to bail Europe out twice during the two world wars? You guess it, we the Americans!


20 posted on 07/18/2012 3:54:51 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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