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The Biggest Scandal in U.S. History
anncoulter.com ^ | June 27, 2012 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 06/30/2012 8:30:38 AM PDT by Sharkfish

Forget executive privilege, contempt of Congress, "fast and furious," how many documents the government has produced and who said what to whom on which date.

The Obama administration has almost certainly engaged in the most shockingly vile corruption scandal in the history of the country, not counting the results of Season Eight on "American Idol."

Administration officials intentionally put guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, so that when the guns taken from Mexican crime scenes turned out to be American guns, Democrats would have a reason to crack down on gun sellers in the United States.

Democrats will never stop trying to take our guns away. They see something more lethal than a salad shooter and wet themselves.

But since their party was thrown out of Congress for the first time in nearly half a century as a result of passing the 1994 "assault weapons ban," even liberals know they were going to need a really good argument to pass any limitation on guns ever again.

So it's curious that Democrats all started telling the same lie about guns as soon as Obama became president. In March 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced to reporters on a trip to Mexico: "Since we know that the vast majority, 90 percent of that weaponry (used by Mexican drug cartels), comes from our country, we are going to try to stop it from getting there in the first place."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; coulter; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
Interesting take on F&F relationship to past administration and media lies about U.S. guns going to Mexico
1 posted on 06/30/2012 8:30:49 AM PDT by Sharkfish
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To: Sharkfish

The Republic will fall if we allow no accountability for an executive branch who flaunts our elected representatives in Congress.


2 posted on 06/30/2012 8:42:03 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: Sharkfish

This is the right take on the story from the beginning. Glad Ann finally writes about it.

The Hillary role has not gone un-noticed either. Like yesterday, we remember her early term romance (seen hand holding) in South America and Mexico and on the wrong side of every issue and all the facts throughout that honeymoon.


3 posted on 06/30/2012 8:49:45 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Sharkfish
Of course, if they're worried about guns in Mexico they could just SECURE THE BORDER.
4 posted on 06/30/2012 8:50:25 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sharkfish.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 8:50:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Tzimisce

You mean like how Felipe Calderon secured Mexico’s southern border against Guatemala . . . ?


6 posted on 06/30/2012 8:53:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: bestintxas

It looks like the Pubbies are going to slap Holder’s hand and move on. Where are the court filings now that we have contempt? It certainly does not give one much hope that they will corral these mass murderers.


7 posted on 06/30/2012 8:55:12 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Sharkfish
I think it's a toss up between F&F and Obamacare. They're both monumental as far as scandals go.
8 posted on 06/30/2012 8:57:16 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: RitaOK; All
This is the right take on the story from the beginning. Glad Ann finally writes about it.

EXACTLY! We can welcome late arriving guests to the party (T.E.A.). Welcome aboard, Ann!

Pre-meditated, agenda-driven MURDER. It did not matter who or how many died. "They" are a necessary integral part of the AGENDA.

EVERYTHING about socialism is sham and affectation. - 23.11 Ch23 EVIL; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

Quote - Bastiat (READ IT AGAIN)

CAPS in quote - mine (MEMORIZE IT)

9 posted on 06/30/2012 8:59:46 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sharkfish
"But let's look on the bright side. The BATF was originally going to ship warheads to Iran until realizing the explosions might disable the tracking devices."

Great line...I'm still not a member of the newly formed anti-Ann posse.

10 posted on 06/30/2012 9:01:24 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Sharkfish
guns taken from Mexican crime scenes

If I was a criminal I would not shoot someone, then throw the gun on the ground and run away .... guns cost money .... unless I was paid to do the shooting and then leave the gun behind .... something like a paid hit man.

11 posted on 06/30/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Sharkfish
guns taken from Mexican crime scenes

If I was a criminal I would not shoot someone, then throw the gun on the ground and run away .... guns cost money .... unless I was paid to do the shooting and then leave the gun behind .... something like a paid hit man.

12 posted on 06/30/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Sharkfish

Scott Ott (of PJTV and an OH County Commissioner) is right. This is bigger than Watergate. But I fear we no longer have the culture that is willing prosecute “elites” as we did in the past.


13 posted on 06/30/2012 9:08:07 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Sharkfish

Excellent!


14 posted on 06/30/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: --Obama DID lie about raising taxes on middlese class)
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To: Clock King

We only prosecute elites if they are of the republican persuasion.


15 posted on 06/30/2012 9:18:29 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: layman

What is not said is many of those who used the weapons were themselves also on the way or taking the eternal celestial dirt nap. Kinda hard to take your weapons with you.


16 posted on 06/30/2012 9:26:14 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: liberalh8ter
I think it's a toss up between F&F and Obamacare. They're both monumental as far as scandals go.

Well, so far nobody has died from Obamacare. With F&F it'/s one US Border Patrol Agent and a few hundred Mexican civilians.

17 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:15 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: cookcounty
No one has explained what putting 2,500 untraceable guns in the hands of Mexican drug dealers was supposed to accomplish.

The most rational explanation is that the administration was trading allowing US guns into Mexico in exchange for drug money smuggled into US political parties and campaigns.

18 posted on 06/30/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Defy by silence)
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To: gitmo
...so far nobody has died from Obamacare

So far...."Pull the plug on Granny..."

19 posted on 06/30/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by citizen (It's no longer Obamacare. It's Robertscare now. He wanted it, he bought it, he owns it.)
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To: Rapscallion

‘No one has explained what putting 2,500 untraceable guns in the hands of Mexican drug dealers was supposed to accomplish’

The lefts explanation is that they would be able to trace the guns to the heirarchy in the cartels. This is total BS because for one, by what means would they be able to trace the guns. In addition it is the ‘foot soldiers’ of the cartel that carry out the killings not the leaders. The only explanation is that there would be some guns popping up in various crimes that would point back to their origin, the US. Thereby drumming up anti gun sentiment and the ‘need’ for more gun control. The ‘New World Order’ will be more difficult to accomplish with an armed citizenry.


20 posted on 06/30/2012 9:54:32 AM PDT by doc
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; All
It looks like the Pubbies are going to slap Holder’s hand and move on. Where are the court filings now that we have contempt? It certainly does not give one much hope that they will corral these mass murderers.

"mass murderers" BUMP! We shall see. Could be part of the Socialist/Totalitarian Theater. RINOS (Republicans Implementing Nuances Of Socialism). They're all the same, advancing a totalitarian agenda. It's like slow jihad / fast jihad. Sooner or later you're in a totally subdued/submissive or murdered situation.

21 posted on 06/30/2012 9:54:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sharkfish; MestaMachine; marktwain; neverdem; Joe Brower

22 posted on 06/30/2012 9:56:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: citizen; All

“So far....”Pull the plug on Granny...”

EXACTLY! It’s what socialists do...it’s how they roll...PLUNDER and DEATH.

Here is proof of part of their agenda...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Any doubts?

“Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

STOP THE CLOCK. REVERSE IT.

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.

DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic.

live - free - republic


23 posted on 06/30/2012 10:04:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: mazda77

Do you know if that was the situation in the death of the American border guard ?


24 posted on 06/30/2012 10:04:32 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: doc

Good post doc, I just wanted to add one thing: The Lefts explanation asks us to assume that the US would go into Mexico to “bust” cartel culprits when we refuse to prosecute these same people, or even try to apprehend them when they are already in clear violation of US law.
Case in point: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2901047/posts


25 posted on 06/30/2012 10:10:24 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Rapscallion

That’s not a rational explanation at all. 2,500 weapons to the drug cartels are like a ream of copy paper to a company.

They have no need or desire to pay off any U.S. pols to obtain weapons, including full-auto machineguns, rocket launchers and grenades from non-U.S. sources.


26 posted on 06/30/2012 10:27:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: layman
If I was a criminal I would not shoot someone, then throw the gun on the ground and run away

Not just "hit men."

A lot of gang members who kill a lot of people will drop the guns at the crime scene, to ensure that if they're ever caught, they won't be tied to the crime like they would if they had the gun. Besides, the drug cartels don't have any trouble getting replacement guns, and on the world market, full auto AKs are a lot cheaper than even an SKS in the States would be. And the cartels can get them by the container load.

Mark

27 posted on 06/30/2012 11:18:37 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Travis McGee
most of the cartel bosses are prolly pissed off at the thought that theyd be stupid enuff to pay the US retail price for semiauto weapons, when they have armories of military grade stuff bought for 1/3 the price...

the flunkies that did the buying got the purchase money from US taxpayers, and the cartels [bosses] most likely didnt have a thing to do with it, except for being the patsy...

28 posted on 06/30/2012 11:22:30 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Clock King
Scott Ott (of PJTV and an OH County Commissioner) is right. This is bigger than Watergate. But I fear we no longer have the culture that is willing prosecute “elites” as we did in the past.

Watergate was a second rate burglary. The resulting "scandal" was the media seeing a chance to take down a president hated roundly by that same media.

The difference is that the media today is fully invested in the election and installation of Obama, and they are more than willing to hide what honest "journalists" would realize are criminal acts.

Quite frankly, the media, or what I refer to as "the ministry of propaganda" is willing to overlook uncounted murders, as long as it advances their ideology.

This really isn't anything new. The left resisted the US entering WWII until Hitler attacked Stalin's Soviet Union. And of course there's the NY Times shameful (and evil) hiding of Stalin's atrocities committed against the Ukrainians, reporting how wonderful things were in the Soviet Union while Stalin was systematically starving many tens of millions of civilians. To this day, the NY Times refuses to denounce Walter Durante who reported these lies, and continues to promote the fact that he was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his Stalinist propaganda, published in the NY Times.

Mark

29 posted on 06/30/2012 11:34:55 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Sharkfish

I am still waiting for the MSM coverage that Krauthammer predicted

Talk about being naive

Hell anyone on this site could have told him that wasn’t going to happen


30 posted on 06/30/2012 11:40:53 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Josephat
We only prosecute elites if they are of the republican persuasion.

The MSM only covers scandals night after night after night when they are GOP types ( and mostly insignificant at that till they work the public up )

Drives you crazy
31 posted on 06/30/2012 11:44:44 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Sharkfish

Sounds like an elaborate conspiracy theory to me. ;/


32 posted on 06/30/2012 11:59:56 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Gilbo_3

Yep, it was free (tax) money for free guns....paid for by us.


33 posted on 06/30/2012 12:36:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sharkfish
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced to reporters on a trip to Mexico: "Since we know that the vast majority, 90 percent of that weaponry (used by Mexican drug cartels), comes from our country, we are going to try to stop it from getting there in the first place."

Yeah... because we all know that AK-47's are made in the USA.


34 posted on 06/30/2012 1:06:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Annie’s fashionable late entrance. I am so impressed.


35 posted on 06/30/2012 3:06:30 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Sharkfish

As with all Leftists, the end justifies the means. If you want an omelette, you have to break some eggs. Etc., etc.


36 posted on 06/30/2012 4:20:48 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Rocky

The ends justify the means.

A few hundred dead Mexicans are a small price to pay for tighter gun control in the USA.


37 posted on 06/30/2012 6:17:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bestintxas

Accountability from the No Account?


38 posted on 07/01/2012 2:35:47 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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