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E-mails reveal retaliation, cover-up at ATF, DoJ following Fast & Furious exposure
Hot Air.com ^ | June 30, 2012 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 06/30/2012 9:48:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

I recall a time when Democrats regularly lionized whistleblowers … during the Bush administration, of course. The media hailed them as heroes; Time Magazine even made them the collective Person of the Year for 2002. Democrats loved them so much that they ran one of the whistleblowers on that cover in my Congressional district in 2006 against Rep. John Kline, a former Marine colonel that Colleen Rowley’s campaign photoshopped into a Nazi uniform for their campaign website. Needless to say, Rowley has disappeared back into well-deserved obscurity, while Kline still represents my district.

These days, in the Obama era, Democrats and the media seem a lot less admiring of whistleblowers, oddly enough. Imagine for a moment that Rowley had been assigned a new boss at the FBI after her whistleblowing, one that had told others that the agency needed to “get whatever dirt we can” on her to “take her down,” and especially if that boss had previously said in the presence of at least one witness that the FBI needed to “f**k” said whistleblower. Can you imagine the media meltdown that would have occurred? Well, you’re going to have to be satisfied with imagining it, but Senator Charles Grassley and Rep. Darrell Issa want answers as to why two Operation Fast and Furious whistleblowers got assigned to work for a man who said exactly that about them:

In a Friday letter to the DOJ’s Inspector General Michael Horowitz, Grassley and Issa said they’re now concerned retaliation is much more likely following Thursday’s votes to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in criminal and civil contempt of Congress.

“We just learned that ATF senior management placed two of the main whistleblowers who have testified before Congress about Fast and Furious under the supervision of someone who vowed to retaliate against them,” they wrote before describing how senior political figures have made dangerous threats before.

Grassley and Issa said that in early 2011, right around the time Grassley first made public the whistleblowers’ allegations about Fast and Furious, Scot Thomasson – then the chief of the ATF’s Public Affairs Division – said, according to an eyewitness account: “We need to get whatever dirt we can on these guys [the whistleblowers] and take them down.”

Thomasson also allegedly said that: “All these whistleblowers have axes to grind. ATF needs to f—k these guys.”

According to Grassley and Issa, when Thomasson was asked about whistleblowers’ allegations that guns were allowed to walk, Thomasson said he “didn’t know and didn’t care.”

That’s not all that Issa and Grassley want to know, either. Departing Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote the now-infamous letter of February 2011 to Grassley that asserted the DoJ had no knowledge of gunwalking in OF&F. Newly released e-mails now show Weich and former acting ATF head Ken Melson cc’ed on e-mails discussing how to respond to Congressional inquiries on just this point. A January 12, 2011 memo from ATF circulated within the agency briefs officials about how to respond to this question:

“Some media reports, referencing an anonymous ATF official, claim that ATF knowingly “walked” about 1,900 firearms across the US-Mexico border as part of this operation. What can you tell me about that?” — Or — “The news release/indictment indicates that A TF waited until nearly 2,000 guns were
illegally purchased before arresting the straw buyers in this case. Why did ATF wait so long?”

ANSWER: It’s not against the law for an individual to purchase 10,20 or 50 or even 100 guns at one time. It’s not illegal to own or possess hundreds of guns; however, it is illegal to straw purchase firearms for those who cannot possess them legally. Operation Fast and Furious became a long-term investigation because of the amount of time it took to gather enough evidence against those who were supplying these violent criminals with the tools of their trade. We needed to ensure that when we did arrest these individuals, justice would be served.

ANSWER: Knowing what it takes to prosecute these types of federal violations is the best way to understand why this investigation took as long as it did and utilized so many resources. Investigations of this type are often long and complicated due to the fact that firearms are a legal commodity being diverted for illegal use. When conducting these investigations we have found that the end user of often shrouded by many layers of straw purchasers and middlemen whose sole purpose is to hide the connection between the first retail purchaser and the violent criminal. Determining when the firearm leaves legal commerce can be extremely difficult and therefore hard to prove.

In other words, the gunwalking was common enough knowledge that the ATF prepared a formal memo (see attachment 2) to instruct officials how to respond to questions about it on January 11, 2011. Yet when Congress asked Weich to inform them, Weich prepared a response three weeks after that ATF briefing memo was published that outright denied it ever happened, and the DoJ did not correct that testimony for another ten months. Either Weich is one of the most incompetent bureaucrats in recent history, or he and the ATF were trying to cover up their gunwalking from Congress. Intimidating whistleblowers had to be part of that strategy; Weich’s position would have been — and turned out to be — untenable while whistleblowers kept tipping off Congress.

So when will the media fall back in love with whistleblowers? I’ll go out on a limb and predict it will be when a Republican gets elected President. May that day come soon.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama

1 posted on 06/30/2012 9:48:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What does Holder know about Obama? There must be something big to cover-up.


2 posted on 06/30/2012 9:52:46 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Kaslin

Sadly, we are in a BANANA REPUBLIC right now......the DOJ attorneys REFUSE to prosecute Holder.....Obama waves his hand and makes laws.......and the Supreme Court is out of control!


3 posted on 06/30/2012 9:55:34 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: FreedBird

They are friends and they are black....need I say more??


4 posted on 06/30/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

“Let’s get something on him and take him down.” This is also what the said about SC Justice Roberts.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Ann Archy

“....need I say more??”

‘How ‘bout bein’ on the down low?


6 posted on 06/30/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Kaslin
December 7, 2011 1:44 PM
Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations

"ATF officials didn't intend to publicly disclose their own role in letting Mexican cartels obtain the weapons, but emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called "Demand Letter 3". "

7 posted on 06/30/2012 9:59:49 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Terry Mross

President Mountain Dew told John Roberts it would be a shame for something to happen to him like happened to Judge Roll.


8 posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:58 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Kaslin
TEA party info on DEMAND LETTER 3
9 posted on 06/30/2012 10:08:38 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, but SO WHAT!?

Did everyone just forget that Eric Holder is black?

Nothing is going to happen to him, no one is going to do a damn thing, most certainly not John Boner.

I know! Maybe they can sue him for whatever, then he will apoeal the the SCOTUS, then guess what...


10 posted on 06/30/2012 10:11:39 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kaslin
A million times worse than Watergate, but this time the MSM is part of the coverup.


11 posted on 06/30/2012 10:30:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
Would you buy a used car from this guy?

He deserves to be under the jail...

12 posted on 06/30/2012 10:39:34 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Kaslin

Without the MSM reporting on this night after night the majority of the public won’t get worked up

BTW Krauthammer assures us that the MSM would be forced to cover it

Hey Charles I am still waiting


13 posted on 06/30/2012 11:06:08 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: TXnMA

Based on THAT damn picture, Ronald Weich actually gives credence to the occasional wacko conspiratorial theory that reptilians have taken human form and are subverting our government from within.


14 posted on 06/30/2012 11:11:03 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: FreedBird; Kaslin
From the many articles I've read about F&F it appears that everyone high up has stuff on each other. Figure that it is said that Hillary was in on the very early talks of F&F as she and others wanted the 2nd amendment harmed and eventually gone. Then Holder, has probably enough goods on bammy to sink a ship. The Chicago way in full blown high speed ahead, bammy and his buds have enough on anyone that he feels somewhat safe. Does anyone else here think that one of the cartels in Mexico has goods on some here, as that's who got the guns.

No one wants to be first to spill their guts, as then the dam will break wide open.

All in all, this last week has been devastating to us peons in flyover country, as first AZ law turned upside down, then healthcare upheld by Roberts (is he being blackmailed - something about his adopted children??), F&F is hitting the fan and we're just stuck here watching the mud and poo sling every which way.

God save this country. God doesn't have to be on our side, we need to be on HIS side! Vote in November to oust this nightmare from the White House.

15 posted on 06/30/2012 11:26:00 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (If we don't help make a change, then who will? It starts with us.)
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To: Kaslin

As slow Joe Biden would say, “this is a big fu**ing deal”.


16 posted on 06/30/2012 12:17:12 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Kaslin
Newspapers need to expand Style Books to include sections on whistleblowers.

Punctuation doesn't change when administrations change and either should the ‘take’ on whistleblowers. Then again maybe the MSM;s not concerned about the respect and trust of readers - - there's always some friggin’ worthless prize to hang on the fattest ego in the organization...

Yeah, that's it - lay off more journalists, downsize, write crap - and win a great big PRIZE. ( never been a prize for a conservative expose... odd isn't it?)

17 posted on 06/30/2012 12:34:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (Way to go Kraft Foods. I now associate your brand with anal sex.(Oreo cookies) Freeper agere_contra)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.


18 posted on 06/30/2012 1:21:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (King of the East=Iran, King of the South=Egypt, King of the North=Turkey...)
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To: Ann Archy
Sadly, we are in a BANANA REPUBLIC right now......the DOJ attorneys REFUSE to prosecute Holder.....Obama waves his hand and makes laws.......and the Supreme Court is out of control!

and DHS Tells Border Patrol to hide in the bushes if armed people come at them.
19 posted on 06/30/2012 2:16:33 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

The merry-go-round of corruption speeds up. Up and down and ‘round and ‘round.


20 posted on 06/30/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
Think about this: The US intelligence community has a long pre-existing relationship with what is now called the Sinaloa Cartel. Unmarked, untraceable $50 and $100 bills in large numbers are the mothers milk of covert operations. The Sinaloa people can provide a lot of those items and need a secure banking and distribution network to survive and thrive. We provide the latter they the former. Enter the Zetas; much better organized having originated in the Mexican Army SOF. The Zetas are conducting a text book covert war of extermination of our crypto allies the SC. Also the Zetas have a deep covert relationship within the Mexican Army and probably Air Force. This is based on covert Zeta assets who remain in uniform throughout the military and heavily in the staff and intel sections. Besides becoming very rich the Zetas are becoming a subterranean quasi government in much of Mexico being embedded in key sectors of the armed forces, national police and justice and in government and banking. They have a close relationship with the PAN party through the banking sector. The Zetas or at least a fair number of their leaders do have an ideology . A crude ideology but one nevertheless. It is based on a combination of xenophobic Mexican nationalism , machismo, and the Aztlan concept of a ‘greater Mexico’ controlling Central America and the US Southwest. Their goal is to enable ‘native’ resistence groups funded by the money made from US drug sales to conduct a generally increasing terror and insurgent campaign to intimidate local and state US authorities and allow the same hollowing out process to occur in those agencies the Zetas have done and are doing in Mexico and now Honduras.
The US intelligence community has no current lonf term strategy to deal with this situation but is desperate to prop up the one major crypto asset it has in Mexico, the Sinaloas. To try and do that funneling a lot of hardware and ammo to the Sinaloas is in order. I suspect Holder is a very compromised man who some folks from the intel community made clear to him that the monumentally stupid ‘Gun Walker’ scheme would be put into operation by DOJ. Holder will either fall on his sword over this or if the Mahdi l;loses in November just disappear. GOP efforts to pursue legal action against him will be discouraged from far up in the GOP hierarchy as the intel community will make clear such action is ‘not prudent, not prudent at all’ to quote a former Republican President.
21 posted on 06/30/2012 5:25:40 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
not prudent at all’ to quote a former Republican President.

Dana Carvey?

22 posted on 06/30/2012 5:45:55 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: mkjessup
“Based on THAT damn picture, Ronald Weich actually gives credence to the occasional wacko conspiratorial theory that reptilians have taken human form and are subverting our government from within.


Good observation, mkjessup. It gave me the heebie-jeebies but I didn't know why until your post! HA!

23 posted on 07/01/2012 10:21:18 AM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: hummingbird

Great minds think alike FRiend, we both picked up on it with our visual instincts, I merely articulated what we were both thinking.

Oh wait, you just said that. lol


24 posted on 07/01/2012 11:50:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I am pretty certain Bush 1 said this clearly on TV in response to the growing secession movement in the Ukraine. I am sure the foreign policy establishment wanted the USSR to remain intact and the Warsaw Pact to stay as well. Their great mantra was ‘the need for stability’ and they were frightened crapless of the false specter of armed chaos breaking out in eastern Europe and within the USSR if the Soviet Union collapsed. This is true. The end of the Cold War was greeted with dismay and general panic by much of the foreign policy establishment and Bush 1 and baker and Scrowcroft were in a state of sustained dismay about the sudden disappearance of the ‘structures of stability’ that they were used to.
25 posted on 07/02/2012 10:04:07 PM PDT by robowombat
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