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Santorum: Romneycare 'hasn't worked in Mass'- 'voting for Romney over Obama a clear choice for me'
Ny Daily News ^ | June 29, 2012 | Kristen A. Lee /

Posted on 06/30/2012 2:43:06 PM PDT by Innovative

Santorum, however, noted that Romney has vowed to repeal Obama's health care law.

He said voting for Romney over Obama is a "clear choice for me."

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1morelastchance; agitatorsforobams; backstabberromney; elections; iwontvoteforromney; loserromney; mitt4romney; obama; obamacare; proobamaspammers; rinoromney; romney; romney4nytimes; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4u; romneydeathpanels; romneytherino; santorum; verminromney
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Fat chance!


121 posted on 07/03/2012 11:17:30 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Kickass Conservative; rogue yam; Innovative
You and Innovative and Rogue Yam and a handful of others are down on your knees worshiping your leftist POS posing as a "Republican" and slobbering all over him and his pals who funded his despicable campaign. Most here prefer to continue to have a GOP as at least a potential opposition party (which WILL NOT HAPPEN if your leftist POS posing as a "Republican" should, God forbid, be elected).

Myth Romney is whom you want. Myth Romney is whom you support. You ARE what you support.

KC: you really should change that screenname to KickassED "conservative," thereby making an honest fellow of yourself.

122 posted on 07/03/2012 11:29:58 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Finny

awoken is the past participle of awake. My wife is the language police but awoken is easy to google.


123 posted on 07/03/2012 11:41:48 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: BlackElk

I don’t read rants. I did skim the part about “Romney love slave” though and the charge would be laughable if it weren’t so pathetic, but perhaps you just don’t read well. I haven’t seen many here advocating that he is a conservative and MOST (if not all) are lamenting the choice they have to make. Pay attention before you accuse fellow FReepers of something of which they are not guilty.

To recap, since you apparently haven’t gotten the message yet: Vote for someone other than the two main party choices on election day, see the Zero get back in. Clear enough now?

(BTW, if you think it’s possible to get someone else in who’s more conservative at the convention, by all means do try. But in the end I won’t be voting third party regardless. There’s too much at stake.)That’s my position and no amount of flaming will make me change my mind.


124 posted on 07/03/2012 11:44:48 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: BlackElk; Jim Robinson

This is what Free Republic has become: thread after thread of lies, derangement, and abuse.

‘Tis a shame.


125 posted on 07/03/2012 11:45:20 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Derangement is right. WOW! Unreal the false accusations being hurled here: “worshipping Romney”?? Haven’t seen that happen, but I guess some live in an alternate universe. Guess some just can’t handle the cold hard facts. Reality check needed for some here.


126 posted on 07/03/2012 11:48:26 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: Finny

Finny, please add me to your list . . . if I’m not already there. Thanks!


127 posted on 07/03/2012 11:53:43 AM PDT by maryz
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To: JLLH; Finny
He’s said he’ll work to institute free market options.

IIRC, to Romney, RomneyCare is a "free market" solution. His definition of "free market" involves a lot more gov't control, subsidies, tax breaks, "public-private partnerships," etc. than your traditional free-marketer would!

128 posted on 07/03/2012 12:03:23 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

Feel free to show me where we have a choice other than candidate “R” (whoever that is come November) on election day if we want to survive as a nation. I’ll take the guy who SAYS he’ll do the conservative thing over the guy who promises he’ll take us further down this road to full-fledged lawless abandonment of the Constitution. Common sense solution. Third party candidates cannot win in November. Maybe in 4 more years, but if O gets back in it’ll be a moot point.

We can work with someone who’s made the promise to give us free market solutions. Not so with a tyrant who has already promised more fed. control over our lives. Anyone who thinks the past 4 years have been bad haven’t seen what the O has planned for the next 4 should he get in again (God forbid!) Now is not the time to stay home and pout.


129 posted on 07/03/2012 12:09:31 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: JLLH
I’ll take the guy who SAYS he’ll do the conservative thing . . .

. . . even if it's a guy who apparently neither knows nor cares what "the conservative thing" is. OK. I'm clear on your position.

130 posted on 07/03/2012 12:19:53 PM PDT by maryz
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To: rogue yam; Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance; Finny; RitaOK; Dr. Sivana
If that upsets you, stop lying, stop being deranged and stop being abusive of actual conservatives who know better than to support UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES a leftist social revolutionary POS like Myth Romney. If the truth hurts you, tooooooo bad. Wait and see what happens if the Myth Romney ideological twin of Obozo gets elected. Lay in a GBIG supply of asbestos undies for each and every time Myth makes ANY policy decision since you will be responsible for whatever the POS does.

My beating up on Romney and his love slaves is a small price for you to suffer for supporting a man who persecutes the Roman Catholic Church (just like Obozo) and each and every other pro-life and socially conservative church. Muffy and her trust fund and Myth's Wall Street financier cronies can go straight to hell.

The "shame" is that folks like you refuse to RESIST and yet hallucinate that you are somehow "conservative." Your beloved sow's ear is not and NEVER WILL BE a silk purse.

Why don't you go over to DU or HP where clearly you belong given your acceptance of the Obozo/Romney premises? Whose payroll are you on? Does it REALLY bother you or surprise you that members of a conservative website are in sync with one another and with JimRob as proprietor of the website???

Finally, as Truman observed: If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!

131 posted on 07/03/2012 12:41:07 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: rogue yam

Here’s the shame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


132 posted on 07/03/2012 12:47:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: JLLH
I do not care what you (or Romney for that matter) SAY. I care what you do. If you vote for Obozo OR for Romney, you are whom and what you vote for. You support Romney. Expect to be held responsible.

If you support Romney (or Obozo) in any way, shape or form, you ARE guilty of each and every crime he commits and has committed against Western Civilization. I don't personally give a shit which one of these tyrants may win. Obozo = Romney = Moloch = Obozo = Romney. It does not matter in the slightest. They are two of a kind whether you blind yourself to that in order to serve the leftist cowards of the GOP-E or not. CLEAR ENOUGH, NOW????

You don't suppose that your militant support for Myth Romney makes REALLY unlikely your claims to have been opposed to his candidacy? We have plenty of poorly informed terrified cowards in American politics. We don't need more. We need warriors and I guess that won't be you.

YOU ARE WHOM and WHAT you vote for. CLEAR ENOUGH NOW???

133 posted on 07/03/2012 12:53:43 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: rogue yam; BlackElk; jimrob
This is what Free Republic has become: thread after thread of lies, derangement, and abuse.

You do realize that the pro-Romney people have been far more aggressive on this than the anti-Romney folks. BlackElk, for instance, does not start threads. So, his responses are just that.

On one recent occasion, I started a thread, where my "on the side statement" that I was not voting for Romney was mostly as a matter of full disclousure, even as I was providing him with honest advice to convince folks he would truly undo Obamacare.

Here is the complete text. It is short:

I am not voting for Romney, though I understand those who are.

That said, NOW is the time to change his phrasing from "I will work to repeal and replace Obamacare from Day One" (which means nothing) to actions more specific than merely agreeing to sign off on a passed bill that repeals Obamacare.

Example of rhetoric, "You want executive orders, Mr. President? You've got'em.

#1. The Sebellius rule manadating abortion and birth control coverage is Gone-zo.

#2. Anyone who wants a waiver has got one. (credit to rottndog)

#3. The centralized database is suspended, so we can prioritize those records that are commiting crimes and dealing drugs.

#4. The IRS will have to get its job done with 60% of the present workforce. Implementing Obamacare is not on their priority list.

etc.

And my first followup:

You get the idea. Unfortunately, Romney cannot do it. Cain or Palin or Gingrich could have.

Now, do you see a lie, derangement or even a hint of abuse?

But you are right. The lies, derangement and abuse comes in the thread. Pretty much started by the Romney supporters. Jdge for yourself. To your credit, Rogue Yam, you did not join in.

The thread is at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900559/posts

I am going to list a snippet of the contentfree responses I received. I can take insults. Bare insults without an argument to back it up is sad.

you are what is wrong with this fine country of mine.

What you consider to be principle is nothing more than petulance and pride.

Please just go away and quit supporting 0Bama by your 1/2 vote.

Hmmm...rather un American statement....but to each his own

Your lame uttering is meaningless. You're an enemy of freedom, go away.

Then you are an enemy of the United States.

Go and hang out in the DUmp instead of here on FR. Dumbass!

How dare you? You should be relentlessly ridiculed and forced to run away with your tail between your legs.

You’re an 1d1ot. NEXT....



You get the idea. Every single one of those responses could have just as easily applied to JimRob's position. What's more, I wasn't even trying to rub the Romney supporters' nose in anything. I was merely suggesting that Romney has to say exactly how he will repeal Obamacare other than putting his name on a repeal placed on his desk by the Congress. Obama has shown a willingness to use presidential powers to push his agenda. What explicitly would Romney do, chapter and verse, as nobody wants to here a Clintonian "I never worked so hard on anything in my WHOLE LIFE." I thought it was a reasonable suggestion. I KNOW it was an honest one. Read the slams again. This ain't the FR I know. If you look at my return volleys, I do not sink to their level. BlackElk may use colorful language, but he uses it to frame positive assertions that are rarely rebutted, and he never starts the fight. His color does ot exceed the vituperation I received in an honest, and I thought, innocuolus post.

The seeds of dissent have been sown by Mitt Romney. He did it in the primary. He and his supporters are doing it now. Hold your nose and vote for him if you like. I understand. But DON'T act like the right wing version of a DUer.

134 posted on 07/03/2012 1:29:19 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: maryz; JLLH
Nope, you weren't on it, I guess I missed you! It's now up to 176.

And JL, Romney's definition of "free market options" is best interpreted in the context of his recent statement that while he thinks homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married, they should have the "right" to adopt children (a euphemism for forcing adoption agencies to accommodate homosexuals). In Mass., Catholic adoption agencies closed their doors after 109 years rather than relinquish innocent children entrusted to them to such depraved social engineering. So Romney's "free market options" are probably about as squirelly and illogical as his saying that gays shouldn't be able to get married but SHOULD be able force adoption agencies to let them adopt kids.

Romney is bad news for everybody. ABOers' votes "against" Obama are equally votes FOR making liberals more powerful on both sides of the aisle. That is what ABO is voting FOR.

135 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: BlackElk

Hotair.com has Erick Erickson’s column up , from redstate.com. I can’t post it from my cell phone. We have been thrown under the bus on ever repealing Obamacare. Acting to repeal is different from actually repealing anything. Voting to repeal is different from repealing. This is what I’ve said. The ear is for hearing the key words, or the absence of key words in Romney-speak. Please, can you post it? If not, I can later when I get off my cell. Thx.


136 posted on 07/03/2012 1:43:30 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You have made a fairly reasonable post here, but I do disagree utterly with your main claim.

I read the thread you posted. Your OP was perfectly reasonable and on point, and I agree that some of the replies were a tad excessive and condemning.

However, the linked thread is not nearly sufficient evidence to substantiate your main claim.

To wit:

“You do realize that the pro-Romney people have been far more aggressive on this than the anti-Romney folks.”

The stuff posted to you on your other thread is warm, sweet milk compared to the standard fare offered up by the FR He-Man Mitt Haters Club.

I find the comparison to be risible in fact.


137 posted on 07/03/2012 1:48:50 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: BlackElk

Posers are who will be held accountable the day after elections if the Zero gets in for a second term. Expect to be held accountable if he does for those of us who did what we had to do to prevent it will not allow those who were too “pure” to vote with any semblance of common sense to forget for one second that they re-elected the Zero with their childish tantrums.

I don’t owe you or anyone else an explanation of why I consider the Zero a far greater threat to our way of life than anyone else could be. The fact is, if you haven’t gotten that message yet, you never will. Courage means doing what you have to do — even if it means doing something distasteful. Stop making ASSumptions about your fellow FReepers. You know next to nothing about them.

Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear recognize the truth. No one can help those who don’t.

CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU NOW?????


138 posted on 07/03/2012 2:26:58 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Finny

Those who vote ABR will be re-electing the Zero. No two ways about it. I wish things were different, but the facts state otherwise. We have a two party system, not three. If the Zero gets re-elected we’re not likely to ever get a third.

Those who think this is “hype” should ask themselves if they ever thought they would see the day that the biggest tax increase in the nation’s history would be shoved onto the American people with such a clear majority wanting nothing to do with it. Ask yourself if you ever thought you’d see the fed. government take over such large parts of our economy and ignore the Constitution whole-scale while doing exactly as they saw fit. Yes, we may have seen a few instances of this in recent Presidencies, but nothing like what has occurred in 3.5 years. Ask yourself that and then come back and tell me that Romney is still worse than the Zero. If you can do that, all evidence to the contrary, you truly are functioning in a different reality than the rest of us are.


139 posted on 07/03/2012 2:32:51 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: maryz

At least we’ll have a shot with Romney because there’s something there to work with. But for those who are ABR, I guess they figure the devil they know is better than another and they’d rather 4 more years of evil incarnate. OK — not much to go on and will surely sink this country faster than the sinking of the Titanic, but I’m clear on your position now.


140 posted on 07/03/2012 2:36:32 PM PDT by JLLH
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