Posted on 06/30/2012 5:26:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer
CaLvInBaLl!
Thanks for the explanation.
This whole thing has such a supernatural cloud that defies any logic.
It really does seem to lie in the realm of principalities.
I have a feeling that I will want to find this at a later date!
- The courts have been allowed to assume more power than intended in the Constitution. Obviously, all three branches of the government have assumed considerably more power than permitted by the Constitution, but I mean in proportion to the other two.
- IMO, the liberal congress of (how many decades?) has facilitated this as a way of accomplishing what they couldn’t do in the legislature.
- The courts have then allowed the executive branch to literally run amok, while at the same time the congress has abdicated its duties by delegating all manner of what should be *only* a congressional duty to bureaucratic regulatory agencies run by....the executive branch.
- When citizens can be arrested, prosecuted, imprisoned and properties confiscated on the basis of “regulations” written by unelected bureaucrats that have the force of legitimate legislatively passed laws, we have ceased to be a representative republic. Sadly, our republic (at least as envisioned by our founders) has been on life support for decades. I would go so far as to say the republic died some time ago. What has happened in the last three years is probably more accurately described as rotting of a corpse that most people didn’t realize was dead. Sort of like the movie Weekend at Bernies. Make the weekend 3 years and substitute the republic for Bernie.
Sadly, I am thinking that we should realize the despotic nightmare of Obama is not so much a temporary detour, but more the logical outcome of the last 40 years. In the early 70’s I argued with professors that we were heading to just where we are now. Politically and economically. For the most part I was dismissed. It sucks being right sometimes.
>>> I’m sorry, but after this week, how can anyone think this Supreme Court would find that Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen? They’d be more likely to say he’s exempt from the 8-year term limit than to say he’s ineligible to be President.
I think this is why i’m so depressed now... because i would have to agree with you.
If the Supreme Court is incapable of defending this nation against something as blatantly unconstitutional as Obamacare, then Donald Duck himself could survive an eligibility challenge.
I am starting to look forward to the pain and misery this country is going to have to suffer because it has become so complacent. I truly hope Roberts is happy with himself, and I hope he sleeps well at night in 2013 when the bottom falls out.
The law is whatever the Devil wants it to be.
Roberts already has. Obama told everyone on his own web site, “fightthesmears.com”, that he, Obama, is a naturalized citizen, and Roberts administered the oath of office. One cannot honor, defend, and protect the Constitution while violating one of its articles. For those who believe the talking point “But it was never defined in the Constitution,” read Mark Levin's book Liberty and Tyranny, p37, where Madison explains why definitions were not included in the Constitution (the meanings of words change with time, thus interpretations must be based upon the language and common-law familiar to its framers).
Chances are there was an agreement, one which Roberts apparently had some difficulty executing given his three trys to get the oath right. But since every Senator knew, and signed his/her agreement with Judge Michael Chertoff (“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”), Roberts knew. Probably, he decided that if Congress wanted to elect a Constitutionally ineligible president, the court didn't have standing to object.
Roberts had an obligation to preserve and protect, and had “Original Jurisdiction” from Article III Section 2 since presidential eligibility concerns a public minister. Roberts showed who he was when he administered the oath of office to Obama, who declared himself to be a naturalized citizen, based upon the 14th Amendment, which amendment is a naturalization amendment, and doesn't touch the definition of natural born citizens. Its author, judge and Congressman John Bingham, confirmed the Marshall/Vattel definition, "born on the soil to citizen parents", in his two addresses to the House in 1866. Obama has challenged Article II Section 1 quite openly, never claiming natural born citizenship, but knowing neither party would challenge, and knowing the media would work to suppress honest legal analysis.
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
Here is what confounds me.
Forget the Birth Cetificate.
Suppose 0bamatax was only 25 years old!
The MSM, the Judical system, our Politicos, could all declare 0bamatax was actually 35 years old, and the critics were Birthers.
The same defense and smears would be rolled out to protect 0bamatax. Nobody in the system has standing to challenge the false declaration
Question to you, and all others, how do the People keep 0bamatax, or some other non-eligble person, off the ballot
No way you were going to win that argument. They were infected years before and couldn't hear you.
They quit listening to reason and are marching on "The Road We Are Traveling" By Stuart Chase instead.
This is what they have been working for. We have almost arrived at the utopia they have been working to create.
With a blatantly corrupt judiciary and political parties, we can't keep him off the ballot. This case in Florida is a ballot challenge case. I have no doubt this judge will ignore the law or manufacture the law (lie, twist, overreach) and let Obama on the ballot. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court just manufactured law on Thursday. There are no rules anymore.
If that "some other non-eligible person" is not of the correct political party (Democrat) they WILL be kept off the ballot. Those with the power will do as they please. Laws are tools to be used against the politically powerless.
They don't even try to hide their corruption.
Worst part is that in this case the actual Republican SOS of Florida is arguing on behalf of Obama.
The DOJ is also arguing on behalf of Obama. Taxpayers have the honor of paying for the destruction of their freedoms.
While the DOJ is suing Florida for trying to clean up it's voter rolls, the Florida SOS is arguing on behalf of Obama - an illegal candidate. It boggles the mind but this type of thing is now an everyday occurrence. We don't live in the same America we grew up in.
So they will do as they please. The populace is too stupid to even understand what is going on.
Welcome to Zimbabwe.
Your whole post is dead on.
Do any of these people really care if they are violating the law? We have lost the will to enforce the law against the powerful. Were are the good and righteous leaders and people in authority?
.....to underscore the significance of the Founders' desire that the President not have divided loyalties or "not even a hint of foreign influence".
Larry Klayman.
As a matter of historical interest, I noted a few items.
George the Ist of England born Hanover, Germany
George II of England born Hanover, Germany.
George III of England born England.
All married German born women. The first two kings put down the Scottish rebellions of 1715 and 1745. Some historians state with brutal ferocity. The son of the second monarch was the Duke of Cumberland (Butcher Billy). He lead the suppression of the rebellion by the Scots.
Which brings me to George III. He faced a rebellion. Now the Framers of the Constitution were well aware of him (smile). No way could they have wished for a foreign born father, without citizenship of the United States as a parent of a president.
I have read `Dreams From My Father`. It does not bode well for the Republic.
There should be a tax penalty for those who fail to prove legal documents of birth.
Whats fair is fair, if 25 million people are getting taxed for NOT having an insurance card then Obama should be taxed for not having his birth certificate.
Judge dismisses suit to keep Obama off Fla. ballot
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120702/APN/1207020793
A judge is throwing out a lawsuit that sought to keep President Barack Obama off Florida’s ballot.
Leon County Circuit Judge Terry Lewis ruled Friday that the lawsuit had a number of flaws, including the fact that Obama is not yet that Democratic Party’s presidential nominee. That will take place at the party’s convention in Charlotte, N.C. next month.
Voeltz v Obama Florida Obama Ballot Access Challenge Dismissed With Prejudice
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/07/voeltz-v-obama-florida-obama-ballot.html
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