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GDP Plunges to 1.9%
breitbart.com ^ | June 30 2012 | Wynton Hall

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:01:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone

On Thursday, the U.S. Department of Commerce released a report chock full of weak growth figures and worrisome economic signals.

The gross domestic product (GDP) dropped from last quarter's 3.0 percent to an anemic 1.9 percent. Over half of first-quarter growth came from automobile sales. When automobiles are removed from the calculation, the GDP grew at just 0.7 percent.

Second-quarter growth estimates of 2.0 percent growth, therefore, may be overly optimistic.

From Reuters:

The government lowered its previous forecasts for consumer spending and export growth, suggesting the economy had a bit less momentum as it entered the second quarter than previously thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; gdp; unexpected

1 posted on 06/30/2012 10:01:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

But was this “unexpected”?


2 posted on 06/30/2012 10:03:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: NoLibZone

How unexpected. I’m sure the rest was government spending. Probably the increased auto sales were due to deep discounts at the end of the 2012 model year...


3 posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:24 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: NoLibZone

What’s the opposite of King Midas?


4 posted on 06/30/2012 10:12:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Lurker
But was this “unexpected”?

Yes it is VERY unexpected. Why, just a week or so ago, the private sector was doing just fine!...

5 posted on 06/30/2012 10:12:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NoLibZone

Saturday night, the week before Independence Day...think anyone is listening/watching?


6 posted on 06/30/2012 10:13:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: goodnesswins

Buried on Thursday when two other stories would dominate coverage.


7 posted on 06/30/2012 10:18:08 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: NoLibZone

Oh you worry warts!...The government will just borrow money from the new tax on healthcare!


8 posted on 06/30/2012 10:52:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: NoLibZone

** Economists and Historians (I’m not one but I play one while talking to democrats) ... please rake this email I sent as a result of this thread to a friend who is beginning to understand why maybe, just maybe, hope and change isn’t all it’s cracked up to be ... please rake it over the coals and correct any misconceptions I have.

- Thanks from the people’s cherokee republic in Mass.

:: :: :: :: :: :: ::

Julie -

“On Thursday, the U.S. Department of Commerce released a report chock full of weak growth figures and worrisome economic signals. The gross domestic product (GDP) dropped from last quarter’s 3.0 percent to an anemic 1.9 percent.”

1. This is why I keep talking about GDP and the 100 person village.
2. The government uses a fake subtractor for inflation, so it’s actually much less than 1.9%
3. Article further says half that number is auto sales. Which explains why standing governments intentionally depress interest rates through the ‘non-political’ Fed, but it’s no different from what caused the housing bubble.

In short - even the small GDP growth is fake. (Republicans and Democrats both play these shenanigans.)

Take note: THIS IS WHY RON PAUL’S PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE IS THE FED. Money policy, unhinged from gold, is what allows political entities such as the Euro Zone to get hypnotized into thinking credit is great. Until it isn’t. We’re just a few years behind them. It’s what allows Helicopter Ben to effectively put the pedal to the metal on the printing presses.

Tie it to health control by the way - don’t like death panels for the elderly? Euro countries have recently announced other health control rationing steps in addition to letting elderly die. If a government can’t pay, it must ration. Your story about your friend who only found out she had breast cancer when she paid cash in America ... but it was too late and she died ... is pretty much a par and not a bogey for Canada.

In the USSR in the 30’s, 7 million innocents died in the Ukraine of starvation due to wheat rationing. There was only a shortage of wheat because the USSR had no GDP to speak of, so the government had to EXPORT wheat to fund itself. In short - rationing its own people to death.

What we will see in Health Control is structurally the same thing. I’m not saying 7 million will die of famine - I’m saying that in form, the same phenomena still apply to governments/countries that have always applied. One thing that technology can not change is structural financial/economic principles. The Evil just rears its head in another form of suffering.

83 years ago, my high school best friend’s Ukrainian relatives were starving to death ( and selling dead human bodies to each other for meat. )

Now 80 years later - my good friend Mike’s Canadian mother waited 16 weeks for emergency surgery (due to Canadian HC rationing) and died almost immediately after it arrived ... because by the time it arrived, instead of giving her a chance, she was already basically dead. Cancer will not slow its pace just because Obama threatens it with a penalty or tax.

Sarah is right about death panels and you were right to be a little sickened by it. The reason her phrase caught on so much is that it skips the Orwellian doublespeak and goes right to the truth.

So, there are some GDP, Health Care real world examples. “Yes we can” (Kill your mother and then make you eat her)


9 posted on 06/30/2012 11:40:09 PM PDT by skeama
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To: NoLibZone
I can't be sure, but I think I read somewhere that when GDP is falling and gets below 2%, it won't stop until there is recession. It's not like there is some magic formula to get us turned around and back above 2% before we have at least 2 quarters going negative. I suppose if we had a tax cut or discovered a massive amount of gold or something, it might happen, but I don't believe it's ever happened in recent history since before the Depression. The momentum is DOWN!

Lets see if the jobs report for June is less than 70k. If so, we are headed for a double dip. Certainly can't be good for the Dems if that happens.

10 posted on 07/01/2012 12:05:00 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: NoLibZone
1.9 is a plus.
ZERO will use it in a campaign ad. 45% will lap it up. 10% will blame Bush.
Remember it started under Bush and if ZERO hadn't stepped in there is no telling how bad things would be. . . . .
Mr. never even run a lemonade stand knows business. . . . .
11 posted on 07/01/2012 3:38:44 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: chuckles
" we are headed for a double dip"

I don't believe that for a moment.
Why?
WE NEVER GOT OUT OF THE FIRST RECESSION.
Unemployment 8%+ Hardly ZERO tinkers with the numbers it is at 20% at least.

12 posted on 07/01/2012 3:42:47 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: NoLibZone

But but but...didn’t you hear????? The private sector is doing just fine - fine I tell you!!!!


13 posted on 07/01/2012 6:59:02 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Are you breathing????? There's a tax for that.)
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To: DeaconRed
The legal definition of recession has nothing to do with unemployment. if you have 2 successive quarters of negative GDP growth, that is recession.

I agree with your sentiment, but if I wrote that we never got out of recession, FR would have flamed me for days. That is actually a good thing as we here don't like to get loose with the facts. We can argue over the facts, but not as far as misrepresenting them.

14 posted on 07/01/2012 9:34:44 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: neodad
Probably the increased auto sales were due to deep discounts at the end of the 2012 model year...

Or maybe people are afraid of owning a '13 model.

15 posted on 07/01/2012 9:43:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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