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Who Should Be a School Bus Monitor? [Re Klein video incident]
Woman Around Town ^ | June 25, 2012 | Charlene Giannetti

Posted on 07/01/2012 8:41:40 AM PDT by QT3.14

By now the whole world has seen the video of a group of middle school boys bullying Karen Klein, the school bus monitor in Greece, New York. The boys have been vilified, their families threatened, and the school board will decide whether the boys will be suspended for the entire 2012-2013 school year. An online site has collected more than $500,000 for Klein and she is being showered with gifts, including an expense-paid trip to Disney World by ABC, which owns the theme park.

An important issue, however, is not being addressed. What were Klein’s qualifications for being a school bus monitor and what training did she receive? If she couldn’t even protect herself from the bullying she endured, what were the chances that she would be able to protect a child put in a similar situation? Being a school bus monitor these days involves more than just making sure children don’t forget their lunches or their backpacks. The job requires protecting the safety and well-being of all the children who board.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: busmonitor; monitor; schoolbus; studentbehavior
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In other words this:

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1 posted on 07/01/2012 8:41:53 AM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Dirty Harry?


2 posted on 07/01/2012 8:45:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: QT3.14

Nobody should be a school bus monitor. If riders cannot behave appropriately, then they should be prohibited from riding. If this means their parents have to make other transportation arrangements or other education arrangements, so be it.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 8:47:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The Lord will rescue me from every evil threat and bring me safe to His heavenly kingdom.")
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To: QT3.14

C’mon... “training”? to be a school bus monitor? Really? Gee, maybe we should set up a Federal program to handle this. Great idea!!!

And how exactly could she protect herself? She’s not allowed to touch the little angels. She has no authority. They know any threat is idle. This poor lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong kids, and I doubt there is anything she could have done to defuse it.


4 posted on 07/01/2012 8:47:41 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: QT3.14

I suspect that any effort to assert her “authority” over those hooligans would have landed Klein in hot water with school officials—if not in court facing a lawsuit from aggrieved parents. What the commentator does not get—though the 7th graders on her bus understood it perfectly—is that no one has “authority” in the public schools anymore: not principals, not teachers, and certainly not bus monitors. They are politically correct zoos run by the animals who prowl within them.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 8:51:48 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: QT3.14

The kids are being brainwashed in government schools to hate fat people.


6 posted on 07/01/2012 8:52:42 AM PDT by moonshot925
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Who Should Be a School Bus Monitor?

Ex-Marines.

Almost a half century ago, our pastor took a call to another church & left. One of the congregation members took up teaching the Confirmation class and I was in that class. This guy (still alive) is the nicest, most decent human being in the world (think marshmallow in appearance, too), but he could not handle the class. The boys were awful - talking while he was teaching, being rude & disrespectful, etc. Then, we got an interim pastor ... a former Chaplain & I believe a Marine. He walked in with his 'buzz' haircut, military bearing, and ice-blue eyes that could stare a hole through a brick wall. He never had to say a word to those boys .... who were instantly the most respectful, attentive, quiet kids ever to warm a seat in Confirmation class.

7 posted on 07/01/2012 8:55:10 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Tax-chick
One way to get the troublemakers to school in monitor-free bus:


8 posted on 07/01/2012 8:56:24 AM PDT by QT3.14
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To: bigdaddy45

Excellent point.

Imagine if she had physically touched or restrained any of the kids. In today’s politically correct world, she would be facing criminal charges of assuault or worse.

In today’s politically correct world, it would not matter what had been said or done by the kids to provoke her into some reaction. She would be facing criminal charges anyway.

What does a bus monitor do anyway? Just watch the kids and yell at them if somebody gets out of line? How much special “training” would be involved training for such a job? Sounds like a bureaucratic position for someone, to train the bus monitors of the nation in proper procedure.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 8:56:24 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tax-chick

Don’t know your age, but, back in my day, there was no such job as a school bus monitor. But things were different back in the day, in lots of ways................


10 posted on 07/01/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In a less PC world, Alice “fist of death” from Dilbert would be a good role model for bus drivers and/or monitors. ;-)


11 posted on 07/01/2012 8:59:50 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: QT3.14

Qualifications? She’s a mother & a grandmother.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 9:02:41 AM PDT by FES0844
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I doubt there is anything she could have done to defuse it.
She's been harassed by these same kids before and wouldn't report them because ...
    1) the school district won't do a thing to the kids;
   2) she needed the job and didn't want to get fired.
She should have asked the driver to stop the bus and called the cops, especially after the one punk started talking about using his knife.
13 posted on 07/01/2012 9:04:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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the real question is why is it necessary to have school bus monitors? Why are the kids behaving as they do? What is the root problem??

there are two basic problems IMO:
1. parents who condone children out of control
2. schools which condone such behavior and encourage lack of respect for authority. That is a major reason they can not keep good teachers in urban schools - it all goes hand in hand!

to sum it up - liberalism is the problem!!!

14 posted on 07/01/2012 9:08:45 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: madprof98
They are politically correct zoos run by the animals who prowl within them.

Political Correctness is intellectual AIDS.
Everything it touches it sickens and eventually kills.

William S. Lind, Free Congress Foundation

15 posted on 07/01/2012 9:11:34 AM PDT by QT3.14
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To: Dilbert San Diego
...there was no such job as a school bus monitor.

Exactly.

16 posted on 07/01/2012 9:15:42 AM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14
While we're at it, let's get down to something even more basic: How does compulsory public education have any place in a free nation?

The idea that a government is going to take kids and put them on a big yellow bus to transport them to a government-run "education facility" every day would have made this country's founding fathers vomit.

17 posted on 07/01/2012 9:16:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Don’t know your age, but, back in my day, there was no such job as a school bus monitor.
Back in the day there were parents - one man, one woman.
If the driver and/or school contacted said parents, the student wouldn't be able to sit on the bus because his butt would be sore for a week.

BTW, back in the day there was no security in schools (or the malls), no metal detectors, no video monitors.
We had dress codes, behavior rules & regs, detention for minor violations, and corporal punishment was permitted.
We also had high graduation rates. Liberalism has destroyed all of that.
18 posted on 07/01/2012 9:16:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tax-chick

“Nobody should be a school bus monitor. If riders cannot behave appropriately, then they should be prohibited from riding. If this means their parents have to make other transportation arrangements or other education arrangements, so be it.”

100% Agreed!


19 posted on 07/01/2012 9:17:44 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: elpadre

It’s interesting to see reactions of liberals and conservatives to this incident.

Liberals are full of angst and hand wringing about how this sort of thing can happen. Liberals are full of the angst of why these kids seem undisciplined and out of control. Liberals do not know why this sort of thing can happen.

Conservatives know full well that the lack of discipline, “liberal” standards of recent years, are what has caused the environment in which this happens.

Actually liberals and conservatives talk past each other on this one. Conservatives know full well why this happened, and what the solution to this would be. Liberals have no clue how this happens, or how to deal with it.

Yet, liberals created this world in which there are no effective punishments for kids, a world in which it’s against the law for anyone in authority to physically touch or physicially restrain a kid for wrongdoing. And it’s a world in which the kids know full well that there are no consequences for things that they do. So the bar is lowered, and kids push the envelope more and more.


20 posted on 07/01/2012 9:18:12 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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