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House to prohibit IRS from implementing healthcare law
The Hill ^ | 7/02/12 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 07/02/2012 3:42:06 PM PDT by Libloather

House to prohibit IRS from implementing healthcare law
By Pete Kasperowicz - 07/02/12 01:25 PM ET

The House as early as next week will pass legislation prohibiting the IRS from receiving any money from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to implement the 2010 healthcare reform law.

Passage of the financial services spending bill is especially timely in light of last week's Supreme Court ruling that penalties the government can impose under the law against people who refuse to buy health insurance can be seen as a tax, because it is enforced like a tax.

That finding allowed the individual mandate to stand, and Republicans have already started reorienting their attacks against the law based on the knowledge that it only remains in place because it is an allowable tax.

The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

The House will take up the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act sometime in July, and possibly next week when it returns from the July 4 recess. (The rule governing debate on the bill was already approved last week.) While the Obama administration requested another $1 billion so the IRS can implement the healthcare law, the bill, H.R. 6020, does not give any new money to the IRS.

Additionally, it "prohibits the IRS from receiving transfers from the Department of Health and Human Services to implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," according to report language accompanying the bill from the House Appropriations Committee.

The report notes that in 2010, HHS allocated $20 million to the IRS for enforcing the healthcare law "without the Committee's knowledge." It also notes that the IRS received $168 million from HHS to implement the law in 2011, and plans to get another $322 million from HHS in 2012.

"The Committee prohibits further such transfers during fiscal year 2013 in section 106 of this Act," the report states.

The bill would spend a total of $21.5 billion on the IRS, Treasury Department and other related agencies, about 1.7 percent less than the current funding level. The bill increases funding in some areas, such as Small Business Administration business and disaster loans, public safety and education in Washington D.C., and the Treasury Department's anti-terrorism financing programs.

To make up for these increases, the bill makes cuts in several areas, including the executive office of the president.

"The committee is disappointed that the administration's request did not propose additional reductions for the EOP salaries and expenses accounts," the bill report says. "The committee believes that the chief executive of any organization experiencing a fiscal crisis should share in the funding sacrifice along with the rest of the organization.

"Therefore, the committee has reduced the salaries and expenses appropriation for each organization under this heading," it adds.

Specifically, the bill would fund salaries in the executive office of the president at $650 million, down $9 million from the current level. White House salaries and expenses would be cut $2.8 million, and funding for costs related to keeping up the White House would be cut $671,000.

Other executive branch agencies would receive token cuts as well, while the Office of Management and Budget would see funding drop nearly $9 million, to $80.5 million.

The bill would also take a swing at the General Services Administration (GSA), which faced harsh criticism this year for a lavish, 2010 conference in which more than $800,000 was spent. Under the bill, the GSA would face more oversight related to its travel budget, and would be banned from holding conferences that don't comply with relevant laws and regulations.

The GSA would also have to submit quarterly spending reports to Congress, and face restrictions in monetary awards it gives to employees.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; commiecare; deathpanels; healthcare; house; irs; obamacare; zerocare
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It's a start.
1 posted on 07/02/2012 3:42:13 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
There is a debt limit increase vote coming.

I fully realize that the House can't get EVERYTHING it wants, but -— I see another opportunity to maybe cut the “Medicaid Expansion” since States don't have to do it now anyway, and -— besides, we are BROKE!

2 posted on 07/02/2012 3:46:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Libloather
T. E. A.= TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
3 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:45 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Libloather

How about a debate on a fair tax or flat tax! Get rid of the IRS altogether and stop the slavery!


4 posted on 07/02/2012 3:48:29 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Libloather
SMLE:

To make up for these increases, the bill makes cuts in several areas, including the executive office of the president

5 posted on 07/02/2012 3:48:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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To: Libloather

Full of sound and fury, amounting to nothing.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 3:49:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Thank you Chief Justice Benedict Arnold!)
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To: Libloather

I got my hopes up....but then I read this and shake my head.

The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

I mean, why bother?


7 posted on 07/02/2012 3:51:34 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Lucky9teen

The record of the votes will be useful for the elections this fall.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 3:54:12 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Libloather

This will likely go nowhere.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 3:54:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: unixfox
How about a debate on a fair tax or flat tax! Get rid of the IRS altogether and stop the slavery!

Hear here!!!

10 posted on 07/02/2012 3:55:02 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: unixfox

Ron Paul, amidst his tin-foil hat antics, actually made a good argument about the illegality of the IRS.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 3:55:02 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Lucky9teen

Because it makes the RINOs APPEAR to be against 0bamacare?


12 posted on 07/02/2012 3:55:48 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Kansas58

Boehner just isn’t really in this seriously enough to block the disastrous raising of the debt ceiling until O-care is repealed.

Truly sad!


13 posted on 07/02/2012 3:56:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Lucky9teen
The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

Well you knew that.

It's also the way "it works" to package the things you want in a "must pass" bill and then play hardball with the administration - something our side is NOT very good at, always worrying about how it looks, and the MSM makes sure it doesn't look very good.

Spineless wimps.
We're doomed.

14 posted on 07/02/2012 3:56:57 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Lucky9teen; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

>> “I mean, why bother?” <<

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To please the sheep that don’t know any different.
.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 3:59:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Libloather

They had me till they said it had to go through Reed and Obama..

Dead on arrival this one is.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 4:00:09 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: unixfox

The big one is getting back to the US Federal Government having LIMITED powers.
Which true tax reform would be part of that equation.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 4:01:47 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: Libloather
The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

Do you honestly think this will be a successful effort?

18 posted on 07/02/2012 4:01:47 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: unixfox

The “fair” tax would be worse slavery than we already have.

Sales taxes let the truly rich (that don’t work, or participate in our earned ‘economy’) get off completely untaxed.


19 posted on 07/02/2012 4:03:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Libloather

A good start. THey need to bombard this 0bamacare within every bill submitted, death by a thousand cuts. Tag every bill with some takeaway from 0bamacare.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 4:04:21 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: Lucky9teen
I mean, why bother?

It's one of the first three boxes.

21 posted on 07/02/2012 4:09:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Libloather
Good, I like to see them also start a Congressional investigation into who/what caused CJ Roberts to changed his position.

The outcome might just lead to impeachment!

22 posted on 07/02/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Libloather
It's a start.

Apparently it's not:

The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

23 posted on 07/02/2012 4:10:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted trotting down the street...)
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To: Michael Barnes

There would still be an IRS with a flat tax, but they’d be 1/1000th the size they are now. Just an office in DC and a data/call center where labor and power is cheap.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 4:16:49 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: unixfox
How about a debate on a fair tax or flat tax! Get rid of the IRS altogether and stop the slavery!

Amen fox.

25 posted on 07/02/2012 4:17:40 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: arasina

So your answer is to go sit in the corner and cry like Boehnor?


26 posted on 07/02/2012 4:20:02 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Sales taxes let the truly rich (that don’t work, or participate in our earned ‘economy’) get off completely untaxed.”

You haven’t read the Fair Tax Bill. I recommend that you do so. You comment is untrue.

In fact, what you have written is true of the current, progressive, tax system.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 4:20:57 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Libloather

Just the recently-hired IRS agents outnumber House members by roughly 300 to 1 and their sole reason for existence is to cause trouble.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 4:21:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Lucky9teen
I got my hopes up....but then I read this and shake my head. The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law. I mean, why bother?

Has FR been invaded by the new castrati? You're upset because they will have to follow the Constitution? You had your hopes up because there was some magic trick they maybe found?

29 posted on 07/02/2012 4:23:14 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: editor-surveyor
Sales taxes let the truly rich (that don’t work, or participate in our earned ‘economy’) get off completely untaxed.

That's not true and you know it so why you sayin' it?

People will be taxed when they consume irrespective of whether they're "truly rich", "falsely rich", or bald.

30 posted on 07/02/2012 4:26:03 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Libloather
Fight to the last breath against desolation and compromise, like brave Leonidas, who inspired Oglethorpe to take on a fool's mission centuries later:

We are resolved not to suffer defeat - we will rather die like Leonidas and his Spartans -if we can but protect Georgia and Caro- lina and the rest of the Americans from desolation.
31 posted on 07/02/2012 4:27:03 PM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Libloather
Fight to the last breath against desolation and compromise, like brave Leonidas, who inspired Oglethorpe to take on a fool's mission centuries later:

We are resolved not to suffer defeat - we will rather die like Leonidas and his Spartans -if we can but protect Georgia and Caro- lina and the rest of the Americans from desolation.
32 posted on 07/02/2012 4:27:34 PM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: editor-surveyor

How would they avoid paying taxes on what they buy?


33 posted on 07/02/2012 4:34:12 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Errant
...start a Congressional investigation into who/what caused CJ Roberts to changed his position.
The outcome might just lead to impeachment!


Yeah, just like the way they impeached Eric Holder after finding him in contempt.
34 posted on 07/02/2012 4:34:28 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Principled

Irrespective? Is that a word? Did you mean “regardless”, maybe? Or,
“ without respect “?


35 posted on 07/02/2012 4:35:04 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Libloather
"The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law. "

It goes nowhere without the Senate and Romney.

36 posted on 07/02/2012 4:35:08 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: unixfox

You don’t need to repeal that which was never passed in the first place...

http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/defects.aspx

10 States are on record of not ratifing the 16th amendment so it would only take 3 more States.


37 posted on 07/02/2012 4:37:13 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: SueRae

Tie this measure to an appropriations bill that funds the government.


38 posted on 07/02/2012 4:47:57 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Libloather
Vote against this measure and paint a target on your back.

For the Secret Service and anti-gun trolls, the previous sentence contains what is commonly known as a "metaphor." See if you can find it. Hint: it's a literary device that describes something in less-than-literal terms ...

39 posted on 07/02/2012 4:55:35 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: SueRae

Tag every bill with full repeal. Block EVERYTHING that comes out of Conference that doesn’t have full repeal attached. Make the Senate choose.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 5:00:16 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Libloather

I’m cackling like Cankles right now.


41 posted on 07/02/2012 5:16:15 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Libloather

Like that will stop them.


42 posted on 07/02/2012 5:17:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: SueRae

That’s what ACTUAL fighting back looks like. Instead of doing that, the mealy mouthed spineless jerks will do things like this which have the APPEARANCE of fighting back but with no actual effect.


43 posted on 07/02/2012 5:18:38 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: RitaOK

ir·re·spec·tive (r-spktv)
adj. Archaic
Characterized by disregard; heedless.


44 posted on 07/02/2012 5:22:50 PM PDT by pilipo (GOP=Gutless Old Party)
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To: mazda77
So your answer is to go sit in the corner and cry like Boehnor?

No. I just don't think the bill will make it through the current Senate and that Obama would sign it if did.

45 posted on 07/02/2012 6:17:27 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina; All
So your answer is to go sit in the corner and cry like Boehnor?

No. I just don't think the bill will make it through the current Senate and that Obama would sign it if did.

I know that, and so do most of the people on this site, apparently. Passing it through the Senate is not the point right now. It is letting the people of this nation who are intelligent enough, and some not, to understand where the Republicans stand by putting their names in the public domain on where they stand, and to convey they are trying to find additional ways to cripple this VERY crappy law.

Being that not much more than 35% of the Colonialists approved of declaring independence in 1776, what if 56 signers had just decided not to make the declaration and put their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor at stake by signing it because it was not overly popular to do so?

Do you think for a nanosecond that they cared a rat's petookie if the King approved of it or not? Of the 56 signers only 10 of them came through the revolution without being killed or someone in their families being killed because of their signing. I just read the book "Defeating the Totalitarian Lie". I suggest that everyone reading this get it and read it as soon as possible.

46 posted on 07/02/2012 6:46:18 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: editor-surveyor

really? the truly rich don’t buy anything to pay sales taxes on?


47 posted on 07/02/2012 6:49:16 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: RitaOK

It’s a word. Anything that has meaning is a word anyway - but irrespective has been around a while :)


48 posted on 07/02/2012 6:54:48 PM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: Lucky9teen

I got my hopes up....but then I read this and shake my head.

The bill would have to get through the Senate and be signed by President Obama to become law.

I mean, why bother?


Much better to just roll over and not even try,,right?


49 posted on 07/02/2012 7:16:19 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: mazda77
Being that not much more than 35% of the Colonialists approved of declaring independence in 1776, what if 56 signers had just decided not to make the declaration and put their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor at stake by signing it because it was not overly popular to do so?

You have a wonderful attitude and I admire your spirit and patriotism. I'm personally at a weak point in my life so I tend to see things in a negative light. Thanks for helping me recharge.

50 posted on 07/02/2012 7:28:01 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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