States' revolt on Medicaid expansion could undermine health law

pioneer press/wapo ^ | 7-3-12 | N.C. Aizenman and Sandhya Somashekhar

[TurboZamboni]

A growing number of Republican state leaders are revolting against the major Medicaid expansion called for under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, threatening to undermine one of the law's most fundamental goals: insuring millions of poor Americans.

The Supreme Court opened the door Thursday, June 28, when it announced that although the rest of the law is constitutional, the federal government cannot punish states that refuse to adopt the measure's more generous eligibility rules for Medicaid.

The Republican governors of four states -- Florida, Iowa, Louisiana and South Carolina -- have declared that they want to opt out of the expansion. Leaders of half a dozen other states are considering following suit -- including Texas, home to one of the largest concentrations of uninsured people.

[TurboZamboni]

Parkland Memorial----top hospital in noncitizen births in Texas

Dallas County's public hospital is ground zero in the growing controversy over babies born to illegal immigrants.

Parkland handled 11,071 births last year to women who could not provide proof of U.S. citizenship – or 74 percent of the total 14,872 births at the hospital. Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.

It was the busiest hospital in the state for such births.

The cost of births to noncitizens is covered by an emergency Medicaid program.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/080810dnmetbabiessider.2beba5c.html

[FlingWingFlyer]

(((YAWN)))) And Barry’s Supreme Court is going to find it “unconstitutional”. We’ve heard all this sh*t before. Holder will start suing the hell out of states that don’t expand their Medicaid and he’ll get them back in line.

[Aria]

So illegals are the “poor” the article mentions? Poor is the new word for Illegal? More like prefer to break the law, get bennies for free everything.

We need to send Mexico a bill for each birth and deport mother and child.

This will not end well.

[Dilbert San Diego]

I hope that Holder is not attorney general much longer, if you get my drift.

[TurboZamboni]

New Study Says Cost of Health Reform Subsidies Could Far Exceed Previous Estimates

A new study by the Lewin Group estimates that 28.6 million Americans will be eligible for a federal subsidy to purchase health insurance beginning in 2014 at a projected cost to tax payers in excess of $110 billion. This estimate is dramatically higher (578%) than the cost of these subsidies forecast by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) prior to the bill’s enactment into law. If the new estimate is correct, it would mean that instead of lowering the deficit by $143 billion over ten years—a claim widely touted by proponents of the law— the legislation would begin adding to the deficit as early as 2015, only one year after major provisions of the law go into effect.

A central component of the Patient Protection and Affordability Act is the establishment of health insurance exchanges starting in 2014, enabling individuals and families with incomes up to 400% of the federal poverty level who do not have insurance to purchase federally subsidized coverage. The CBO’s final analysis of the bill enacted into law projected that only 7 million Americans would begin receiving these subsidies in 2014 at a total budgetary cost of $19 billion. This figure is $91 billion lower than the amount estimated by the Lewin Group.

The Lewin Group study was commissioned by Families USA, a healthcare reform advocacy group based out of Washington D.C. which is closely allied with the White House and leading Democrats in Congress. Then Senator Obama was a keynote speaker at their annual Health Action conference in 2005 and 2007, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi opened the 2008 event. Other leading Democrats who have participated at Families USA events in recent years include Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy.

http://www.familiesusa.org/assets/pdfs/health-reform/Premium-Tax-Credits.pdf

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a drop in the bucket once the illegals are granted amnesty (again)

[doc1019]

I think he will lose his employment sometime next January at the latest.

[upchuck]

The Republican governors of four states -- Florida, Iowa, Louisiana and South Carolina -- have declared that they want to opt out of the expansion.

Yes!

Nikki Haley bump!

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[Mike Darancette]

A central component of the Patient Protection and Affordability Act is the establishment of health insurance exchanges starting in 2014, enabling individuals and families with incomes up to 400% of the federal poverty level who do not have insurance to purchase federally subsidized coverage.

I was listening to Rush and he was talking about these exchanges. I remember him saying that Federal subsidies could only be given to those enrolled in State exchanges not to someone enrolled in a federal exchange. Rush was saying that this was an oversight of the law but I would imagine the Insurance companies (who make up the exchanges)insisted that the federal exchanges not compete.

[Paleo Conservative]

This is a consequence of the adoption of the 17th amendment which called for direct election of US senators and took state governments out of the loop in Washington DC. The US Senate wrote the Obamacare bill, and the House passed it as written by the Senate to speed up passage prior to the 2010 election. Now many of the state governments are refusing to cooperate with the Obamacare law. A century ago, the US Senate would never have passed such a bill, because the state legislatures who had the power to elect US senators would have fired the senators the next time they were up for election.

[tbw2]

I don’t think Parkland actually has 74% illegal births. The number is probably inflated with native Hispanics claiming to be illegal so that they do not have to pay, since it entitles them to more freebies and the kid still gets citizenship.

[Pollster1]

They need to make it clear that they are opting out permanently and not just until after the election. They need to clarify further that even if a socialist takes power for four years, they will opt out once we retake the governor’s mansion. Liberals need to see that they cannot win this battle - ever.

[Pining_4_TX]

How do I do an Okie ping? My fellow Okie Freepers need to let Gov. Fallin know that we don’t want Obamacare, and she can be a squidgy moderate at times. In other words, I don’t trust her to do the right thing.

[steve86]

We need to send Mexico a bill for each birth and deport mother and child.

How about Mexico sends us a bill for each death linked to the American-demand-fueled drug trade.

[upchuck]

Ping lists are made by pinging something, like OK as an example, on a related thread and then asking like minded Freepers to reply to you on the thread or send you a FReepmail if they want to join that ping list.

For example, back towards the first of the year I started a Trey Gowdy ping list. There are currently 11 Freepers on the list. I usually get one or two requests to join the list whenever I post the ping list on a thread having to do with Trey.

Trey ping as an example.

There is most likely already an OK ping list as most states have one. Search around and see what you can find.

HTH

[upchuck]

More on the OK ping list.

I did a Google search of FR. Apparently 2jedismom is handling the OK ping list. FReepmail her and ask about it.