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California Cities Consider Seizing Mortgages
Fox News ^ | July 5, 2012 | WSJ/NICK TIMIRAOS

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:57:24 AM PDT by listenhillary

A handful of local officials in California who say the housing bust is a public blight on their cities may invoke their eminent-domain powers to restructure mortgages as a way to help some borrowers who owe more than their homes are worth.

Investors holding the current mortgages predict the move will backfire by driving up borrowing costs and further depress property values. "I don't see how you could find it anything other than appalling," said Scott Simon, a managing director at Pacific Investment Management Co., or Pimco, a unit of Allianz SE.

Eminent domain allows a government to forcibly acquire property that is then reused in a way considered good for the public-new housing, roads, shopping centers and the like. Owners of the properties are entitled to compensation, which is usually determined by a court.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/05/california-cities-consider-seizing-mortgages/#ixzz1zlvtvCqT

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: cities; kalifornia; mortgages
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1 posted on 07/05/2012 10:57:30 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

Atlas shrugs.


2 posted on 07/05/2012 10:58:41 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary
Interesting. The county collects property tax and a mortgage.

What's not to like?

3 posted on 07/05/2012 11:02:45 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1261 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: listenhillary
They are merely observing Plank #1 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, "Abolition of private property rights."
4 posted on 07/05/2012 11:07:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: listenhillary

What’s not being said in this article is that bank-owned properties are becoming a blight in many areas as the banks refuse to mow the lawns, keep the homeless out of them, and etc. with all of the costs associated with those problems being picked up by the cities.
The banks are holding on to the homes they seize for reasons they won’t explain and they’re creating some very difficult neighborhoods for the cities to manage at city expense.
I would not normally approve of this kind of thing, but it makes far more sense to keep people in a home than to evict them just to let the home go to rot and ruin and to become a blight.


5 posted on 07/05/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by MeganC (January 20, 2013: The End of an Error)
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To: listenhillary

Feds Pick Firms for Wholesale Home Sell
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2903122/posts

we’ll find out the names AFTER it’s all over.

(they have to pass it to see what’s in it)


6 posted on 07/05/2012 11:15:57 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: listenhillary

PIMPCO being a large holder of Mort. Backed Securities on the hunch that Ben Bernanke would monetize them in a QE. One set of racketeers turning upon another in the last days of the NEW World Order, in prep for the next world order.


7 posted on 07/05/2012 11:16:55 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: MeganC

What’s not being said in this article is that bank-owned properties are becoming a blight in many areas as the banks refuse to mow the lawns, keep the homeless out of them, and etc. with all of the costs associated with those problems being picked up by the cities.
The banks are holding on to the homes they seize for reasons they won’t explain and they’re creating some very difficult neighborhoods for the cities to manage at city expense.
I would not normally approve of this kind of thing, but it makes far more sense to keep people in a home than to evict them just to let the home go to rot and ruin and to become a blight.
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Megan...it may be useful to keep folks in homes...but this is not the way to do it. This will reek havoc on the real estate markets, damage retirement and pension funds that invest in the mortgages, and abrogate about 250 years of secured creditors rights/laws.


8 posted on 07/05/2012 11:18:23 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: listenhillary

This is definitely the outcome of a communist utopia. Seizure of property in the name of a poor class that they themselves created.

Creating victims is their only way to justify injustice.


9 posted on 07/05/2012 11:20:09 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: MeganC
It still does not justify the city for its use of eminent-domain powers for property grab.

They can impose a fine, just like most homeowners associations.

10 posted on 07/05/2012 11:22:48 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: listenhillary

before everyone gets nuts over the concept consider this:

the banks (or trusts with banks as servicing agents) are doing nothing to either sell at market value or mediate in good faith.

everything is in limbo as banks look desperatly for ways to screw the public.

these are properties that are not moving at all. The notes are worthless (if they even exist and IF they are properly documented) . This at the very least will force the hand of the banks to poop or get off the pot.

in california pot is probably what the bankers are smoking.


11 posted on 07/05/2012 11:24:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MeganC

Cities can red tag dilapidated buildings or cite the Banks as owners of neglected properties as they do to any other property owners. Seizing mortgages is ridiculous.


12 posted on 07/05/2012 11:26:16 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: listenhillary

Cities hauling out the Big Hammer. They want to use the threat of an eminent domain seizure under Kelo to force the banks to negotiate “cram downs” with these mortgage holders.
And thanks to David Souter there is nothing in a legal sense to stop them.

If Bank’s don’t capitulate they’ll seize the homes and cut them off at the knees.

No wonder the Hammer and Sickle became their symbol.


13 posted on 07/05/2012 11:31:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: freedomrings69

not so. In many jurisdictions forclosed properties either have exemptions during forclosure or even immunity (for a time) after title transfers to the bank.

cities are powerless.


14 posted on 07/05/2012 11:31:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: listenhillary
Come on, now, everyone be honest....

How many of you, when first scanning the headlines, thought that this actually read:

"California Cities Consider Seizing Hostages"?

15 posted on 07/05/2012 11:33:45 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: MeganC

I understand. They are making the banks eat their peas.

Now - What bank in their right mind will ever make a new housing loan in California?


16 posted on 07/05/2012 11:34:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Tulane; MeganC
The municipalities, about 45 minutes east of Los Angeles, would acquire underwater mortgages from investors and cut the loan principal to match the current property value. Then, they would resell the reduced mortgages to new investors.

This is more of governments making up laws out of thin air in order to apply "social justice" to suit their desires and needs. What is

This is a recipe for financial chaos that can never be straightened out.

What is eminent domain? Depends on the day of the week and what California city we are in.

Read that top paragraph again. It is saying that the cities will use taxpayer monies (which they don't have) to pay the difference between the market value of a home and the mortgage amount, and then getting new investors to hold the now theoretically accurately valued mortgages.

This is no different than the city coming in and writing your mortgage holder a check buying down your principle to current market value. What could possibly be wrong with that?

17 posted on 07/05/2012 11:40:30 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: listenhillary
I'm seeing a lot of empty homes in the central valley of CA, but the bank-owned homes are in pretty good shape. I've seen the banks clean them up, even put new roofs on them then sell them.

In my experience, it's the homes in the process of foreclosure -- before the bank fully takes over -- that are blighted. But that's just me.

I don't see how this action helps homeowners. Looks like a land grab to me.

18 posted on 07/05/2012 11:42:20 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Sir Napsalot
It still does not justify the city for its use of eminent-domain powers for property grab.

Unfortunately thanks to Kelo v. New London, yes, it does.

19 posted on 07/05/2012 11:42:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: listenhillary
Thank you USSC for your Kelo decision.

What a flustercuck we are in now.

FMCDH(BITS)

20 posted on 07/05/2012 11:43:34 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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