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| July 6, 2012
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 07/06/2012 12:07:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: jazusamo
Obama only discourages us.
That’s no presidential.
181
posted on
07/06/2012 8:01:33 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
To: jazusamo
no = not
182
posted on
07/06/2012 8:02:29 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
To: Jim Robinson
Thank you, Delaware, Maryland, Georgia and New York!
To: RedMDer
What more hateful p-resident can you name?
184
posted on
07/06/2012 8:04:49 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
To: Jim Robinson
185
posted on
07/06/2012 8:10:46 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
To: RedMDer; onyx; DJ MacWoW; trisham; TheOldLady; musicman; vox_freedom; JoeProBono; The Cajun; ...
The "General Welfare" in Relation to the Constitution 8. The Preamble of the United States Constitution specifies "the general Welfare" merely as one of the listed goals to be served by the Federal government in the exercise of the limited powers delegated to it, as enumerated in the body of that instrument.
This mention of "the general Welfare" in the Preamble was intended, therefore, to serve in effect as a limit on the use of those delegated powers. The Preamble does not constitute a grant of any power whatever to the government. The only other mention of the words "general welfare" in the Constitution is in the Taxing Clause (Article I, Section 8) which authorizes Congress to collect taxes ". . . to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States . . ."
Here, too, the words "general Welfare" were designed to serve as a limitation in effect--as a limit on the power granted under that clause. This excludes any power to tax and spend for all purposes which would not qualify as being for the "general Welfare of the United States" as a whole-- for instance, it is excluded if for the benefit merely of a locality or some Individuals in the United States.
The clause does not empower Congress to spend tax monies for any and every purpose it might select merely on the pretense, or even in the belief, that it is for the "general welfare." (Discussed also in Pars. 4 and 5 of Principle 11.) Congress possesses no "general legislative authority," as Hamilton stated in The Federalist number 83.
Hamilton's Opinion
9. All of those who framed and ratified the Constitution were in agreement on this point of the limited and limiting meaning of the words "general Welfare" in the Taxing Clause.
As Secretary of the Treasury, Hamilton contended for the first time in 1791 ("Opinion as to the Constitutionality of the Bank of the United States") in favor of a broader interpretation of this clause than he had formerly espoused and broader than that which Madison - with Hamilton's silent acquiescence--had presented in 1788 in The Federalist (especially number 41) as reflecting the controlling intent of the Framing Convention, which Madison and Jefferson consistently supported.
Hamilton did not claim, however, that this clause gives to the Federal government any power, through taxing-spending, so as in effect to control directly or indirectly anything or anybody, or any activities of the people or of the State governments.
Despite his assertion that this clause gives Congress a separate and substantive spending power, Hamilton cautioned expressly (Report on "Manufactures," 1791) that it only authorizes taxing and spending within the limits of what would serve the "general welfare" and does not imply a power to do whatever else should appear to Congress conducive to the "general welfare"--that it does "not carry a power to do any other thing not authorized in the Constitution, either expressly or by fair implication."
**our blessedly brave, brilliant Founders**
click to help fight the insanity of today
186
posted on
07/06/2012 8:31:22 PM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: Lady Jag
There is none.
OBAMA hates America and everything that we stand for.
He has alienated every ally that we have on purpose.
He is destroying every last bit of free enterprise on purpose.
He is trying to take away our 1st Amendment Rights of Freedom to Worship on purpose.
He is trying to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights of the Right to Bear Arms via “under the table” Fast and Furious on purpose.
He is trying to take away our 10th Amendment Rights by constant law suits, regulations and orders against any state that he disagrees with on purpose.
On and on. Obama hates the USA and is trying to destroy us on purpose.
187
posted on
07/06/2012 8:32:20 PM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: Jim Robinson; All
This is the purest and the free-est of all sites ( with any meaningful legacy ) as far as I know.
An eclectic bunch of Patriots who will smoke the devil out of anything he’s hiding in.
A harsh crowd not hesitant to scold, admonish,chastise,ridicule and generally try to have fun in the most dire of circumstances...
God Bless Free Republic and all ya’ll hard asses!
188
posted on
07/06/2012 8:41:29 PM PDT
by
One Name
(Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
To: RedMDer
189
posted on
07/06/2012 8:42:04 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
To: FReepers
Thank You Wonderful, Fabulous FReeper DONOR PATRIOTS!!!!
YOUR LOYAL SUPPORT IS TRULY & GREATLY APPRECIATED!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DELAWARE, GEORGIA, MARYLAND, & NEW YORK FReepers!!!!
"FReepers ROCK the world!!!" Jim
OPEN ALL NIGHT!!!
|
2012 Q3 Scoreboard — ranked by total receipts |
|
Rank |
Location |
Receipts |
Monthlies |
Total |
# |
Avg/Per |
Total |
# |
Avg/Per |
1 |
California |
$677.00 |
19 |
$35.63 |
$1,095.00 |
78 |
$14.04 |
2 |
Texas |
670.50 |
17 |
39.44 |
982.00 |
63 |
15.59 |
3 |
Georgia |
412.00 |
7 |
58.86 |
260.00 |
18 |
14.44 |
4 |
Nevada |
391.00 |
3 |
130.33 |
90.00 |
7 |
12.86 |
5 |
Florida |
380.00 |
5 |
76.00 |
720.00 |
48 |
15.00 |
6 |
Louisiana |
340.00 |
3 |
113.33 |
183.00 |
10 |
18.30 |
7 |
Maryland |
272.50 |
7 |
38.93 |
347.50 |
20 |
17.38 |
8 |
Pennsylvania |
225.12 |
7 |
32.16 |
270.00 |
18 |
15.00 |
9 |
Tennessee |
216.00 |
7 |
30.86 |
175.00 |
15 |
11.67 |
10 |
Colorado |
200.00 |
7 |
28.57 |
310.00 |
18 |
17.22 |
11 |
Sweden |
200.00 |
1 |
200.00 |
|
|
|
12 |
Arizona |
175.00 |
7 |
25.00 |
335.00 |
19 |
17.63 |
13 |
New York |
143.00 |
7 |
20.43 |
310.00 |
22 |
14.09 |
14 |
Massachusetts |
120.00 |
3 |
40.00 |
295.00 |
18 |
16.39 |
15 |
Montana |
110.00 |
4 |
27.50 |
60.00 |
3 |
20.00 |
16 |
South Carolina |
110.00 |
3 |
36.67 |
85.00 |
7 |
12.14 |
17 |
North Carolina |
105.00 |
4 |
26.25 |
320.00 |
21 |
15.24 |
18 |
Alabama |
100.00 |
1 |
100.00 |
325.00 |
17 |
19.12 |
19 |
Illinois |
93.00 |
6 |
15.50 |
226.00 |
14 |
16.14 |
20 |
Wisconsin |
90.00 |
4 |
22.50 |
197.00 |
12 |
16.42 |
21 |
New Jersey |
90.00 |
4 |
22.50 |
98.33 |
5 |
19.67 |
22 |
Virginia |
86.00 |
3 |
28.67 |
472.00 |
28 |
16.86 |
23 |
Mississippi |
81.00 |
2 |
40.50 |
184.00 |
9 |
20.44 |
24 |
Missouri |
75.00 |
5 |
15.00 |
215.00 |
14 |
15.36 |
25 |
Minnesota |
65.00 |
4 |
16.25 |
205.00 |
15 |
13.67 |
26 |
Indiana |
60.00 |
3 |
20.00 |
205.00 |
16 |
12.81 |
27 |
Idaho |
55.00 |
3 |
18.33 |
105.00 |
6 |
17.50 |
28 |
Ohio |
55.00 |
3 |
18.33 |
280.00 |
23 |
12.17 |
29 |
Washington |
50.00 |
1 |
50.00 |
320.00 |
17 |
18.82 |
30 |
Iowa |
50.00 |
1 |
50.00 |
40.00 |
2 |
20.00 |
31 |
Oklahoma |
35.00 |
2 |
17.50 |
225.00 |
13 |
17.31 |
32 |
Hawaii |
35.00 |
2 |
17.50 |
140.00 |
8 |
17.50 |
33 |
South Dakota |
30.00 |
2 |
15.00 |
75.00 |
5 |
15.00 |
34 |
Oregon |
30.00 |
2 |
15.00 |
130.00 |
8 |
16.25 |
35 |
Delaware |
26.00 |
2 |
13.00 |
16.00 |
2 |
8.00 |
36 |
Kansas |
25.00 |
3 |
8.33 |
90.00 |
9 |
10.00 |
37 |
Australia |
25.00 |
6 |
4.17 |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
38 |
Thailand |
25.00 |
1 |
25.00 |
|
|
|
39 |
Canada |
25.00 |
1 |
25.00 |
20.00 |
3 |
6.67 |
40 |
Puerto Rico |
25.00 |
1 |
25.00 |
|
|
|
41 |
Kentucky |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
40.00 |
3 |
13.33 |
42 |
Vermont |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
55.00 |
2 |
27.50 |
43 |
Germany |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
|
|
|
44 |
Arkansas |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
85.00 |
7 |
12.14 |
45 |
Utah |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
70.00 |
3 |
23.33 |
46 |
Michigan |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
261.67 |
16 |
16.35 |
47 |
Nebraska |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
65.00 |
5 |
13.00 |
48 |
New Zealand |
3.00 |
1 |
3.00 |
|
|
|
49 |
Ireland |
3.00 |
1 |
3.00 |
|
|
|
|
Alaska |
|
|
|
120.00 |
4 |
30.00 |
|
New Hampshire |
|
|
|
108.50 |
5 |
21.70 |
|
Connecticut |
|
|
|
80.00 |
5 |
16.00 |
|
West Virginia |
|
|
|
50.00 |
2 |
25.00 |
|
New Mexico |
|
|
|
50.00 |
4 |
12.50 |
|
United Kingdom |
|
|
|
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
|
North Dakota |
|
|
|
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
|
Rhode Island |
|
|
|
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
|
Maine |
|
|
|
27.00 |
2 |
13.50 |
|
Norway |
|
|
|
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
|
Wyoming |
|
|
|
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
|
District of Columbia |
|
|
|
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
|
Armed Forces - Pacific |
|
|
|
5.00 |
1 |
5.00 |
Never Never Land |
90.00 |
3 |
30.00 |
1,090.00 |
87 |
12.53 |
63 locations total |
$6,204.12 |
185 |
$33.54 |
$11,653.00 |
764 |
$15.25 |
|
190
posted on
07/06/2012 8:46:14 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: FReepers
DON'T TREAD ON ME!!
191
posted on
07/06/2012 9:01:35 PM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: TheOldLady
Thanks very much! We gave “Act of Valor” 5 stars.
192
posted on
07/06/2012 9:02:24 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: onyx; Lady Jag; DJ MacWoW; All
Good night all. God Bless!
:)
193
posted on
07/06/2012 9:04:00 PM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: Jim Robinson
194
posted on
07/06/2012 9:04:28 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: STARWISE
195
posted on
07/06/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: RedMDer
Good night, God bless and keep you and your precious family, dearest RedMDer!
196
posted on
07/06/2012 9:07:39 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: Lady Jag
197
posted on
07/06/2012 9:09:04 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: onyx; DJ MacWoW; RedMDer; trisham; TheOldLady; All
198
posted on
07/06/2012 9:22:15 PM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: STARWISE
Glad you warned me about the title! LOL.
Hateful Catholics. Excellent! Thanks very much, sweet STAR!
199
posted on
07/06/2012 9:36:51 PM PDT
by
onyx
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To: One Name
WOO-HOO! LOVE YOUR COMMENTS!!!!
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, One Name!!!!
YOU ROCK!!!!
200
posted on
07/06/2012 9:39:12 PM PDT
by
onyx
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