Damn. Savage related ping as Doc S. is a big supporter of Behenna
As insane as this is and as bad as I feel for soldiers railroaded by PC in the military, I see only one solution. These men and their families have to set up a run for office for them and get them into Congress and the senate, if not into the presidency once they get out.
And then let them get their justice by gutting the system that so thoroughly screwed them.
Wonder how we would have done against Japan/Germany with the current administration and military establishment.
Given the moronic manner in which our best and brightest kids are treated - asinine rules of engagement, PC feminist baloney, homosexuals serving openly and so on - it’ll be a miracle if we have any combat-capable military in another five years.
It’s a shame.
The military, being the only government branch which actually has anything important to do, has heretofore more or less escaped PC destruction.
Looks like that’s changing, however.
...the term “initial aggressor,” is puzzling...when do things initialize?
Frag time...
Things not mentioned in the story.
“...while returning the prisoner to a checkpoint as ordered, Behenna and his platoon stopped at a bridge and, with the help of his Iraqi interpreter nicknamed “Harry”, tried to question Mansur on the April 21st attacks.”
“According to the interpreter, “Lieutenant Behenna started talking with Ali Mansur and Sergeant Warner followed them. Behenna and Warner started taking off Ali Mansur’s clothes with their knives. They then cut his handcuffs.”
“Behenna ordered the detainee to sit, the interpreter said, adding that Behenna seemed to be keen to get information from the detainee regarding the IED attack on U.S. troops in April. Behenna asked the detainee several times: “What do you know you have to tell me.” “Ali Mansur said I will talk to you but Lieutenant Behenna pulled trigger and killed him,” the interpreter said, speaking in English.”
A very different story than self defense.
“Before we started the patrol, Lieutenant Behenna told Ali Mansur ‘I will kill you’. I thought Lieutenant Behenna was trying to scare him. I did not think he would go through (with it),” the interpreter added.”
“I was standing 10 metres (yards) back during the shooting — I could see everything even if it was getting dark — and Sergeant Warner was next to me.”
“Warner then “took the grenade from his pocket, pulled the safety ring, walked around and put the grenade under Ali Mansur’s head. “Then they hid his clothes, and Behenna and Warner went back.”
“Two U.S. soldiers from the same battalion as the accused also testified against Warner. Corporal Cody Atkinson said that Behenna and Warner, armed with a grenade, took Mohammed out of the vehicle and under the bridge.”
“...the next day local villagers found Mansur’s naked, burned body in the culvert. On July 31 of 2008 Behenna was relieved of his command and charged with the premeditated murder of Ali Mansur Mohamed.”
Same Obamalogic that instructed Border Patrol agents to hide out and call the cops in any emergency situation.
WTF????? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lets see now, the chief witness against OUR man is the interpreter.
You almost have to go back to WWII when the CO of a Japanese Submarine was called to testify AGAINST the CO of the USS INDIANAPOLIS (CA-35) in the sinking of the Cruiser. Capt McVay eventually committed suicide and I think the only thing that kept him out of Leavenworth was the public outcry and a couple of Pols going to bat for him.
They also tried to ‘railroad’ LCDR Lloyd BUCHER, CO USS PUEBLO (AGER2) and like in the McVay situation, the majority of his crew and Senior Naval Officers stood behind him.
On the other hand, we can take some REMF Army Major, shoot up Ft Hood and we don’t want to embarrass anyone so he remains untouched.
When it comes to granting a full pardon, whom do you think BO will release?
We should not have to follow UN rules of engagement.
Another reason not to trust American institutiona and “we the people” for that matter. More injustice: there is no end in sight!
I would think that our military justice system would give the benefit of the doubt to our soldiers. Perhaps the judges are afraid that they will somehow offend the current administration, so they give the benefit of the doubt to the enemy.
So they lock up an American hero once in awhile, but they please their superiors and preserve their opportunities for advancement. I find fault with the current administration for creating such an atmosphere. It is another example of trickle down tyranny.
Clearly, in the military you aren't allowed 'to stand your ground' but must allow someone to shoot you first.
How odd. In NYC when a sword wielding naked guy THREW AWAY his weapon and rushed a girl cop she sprayed around enough lead to hit other cop or cops. She was held up the next day in public as a paragon of courage and police virtue by none other than the idiot Bloomberg. I believe she got a medal. This poor soldier was patroling the wrong damn place, it seems, or he his the wrong gender...or something.
Give ‘em an honorable battlefield death...even if these jihadists don’t deserve one - and be done with them.
Friday, July 06, 2012
Shame on the nation: American Hero Michael Behenna Loses Final Appeal
There is something horribly wrong in America when a soldier is jailed for killing the enemy. The criminalization of our heroes is the liberal wet dream and the goal of the enemy, Islamic supremacists. Indeed, they make common cause of their hatred of the good.
Lt. Behenna shot a known al qaeda killer on the battlefield, a terrorist the Army had actually issued a kill/capture order for before they realized he was already dead.
His mother wrote here:
... we will not give up the fight. It is our hope that Congress will hold hearings on the Army’s Catch and Release policy and the current ROE’s that limit our soldiers and Marines ability to defend themselves sometime this fall...... I have come to believe that the only way the Army will release Michael from prison is for the American public to demand it. In that regard I am once again asking for your help. The Savage Nation has been so supportive of Michael, helping us with his legal expenses, and writing letters of encouragement to him. Now I need their voice. I need the voice of the American public to demand his release.
Michael is an exceptional young man and would never have been involved in the criminal justice system but for his attempt to interrogate Mansur. Michael’s character and professionalism has shown through even through this difficult time. When he was pending charges of premeditated murder he was never placed in pre-trial confinement. He continued to work in Iraq and when he redeployed with the 101st Airborne Division in November 2008, he lived off post in Clarksville, reporting to work every day at Ft. Campbell. One of his assignments during that time was to work on President Bush’s security detail when President Bush visited the 101st Airborne Division just before Thanksgiving of 2008.
Read the rest.
Michael Behenna Loses Final Appeal Bob McCartey
Short of a presidential pardon, which isn’t likely in this day and age, it appears Army Ranger 1LT Michael C. Behenna will remain behind bars at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., until he turns 40 years old. The Court of Appeals of the Armed Forces in Washington, D.C., has upheld the 29-year-old Edmond, Okla., native’s conviction stemming from a May 16, 2008, shooting in Iraq of Ali Mansur, a known Al-Qaeda operative.
Clockwise from upper left: Michael’s family; Michael; Michael as a youngster; and Michael and his girlfriend, Shannon.
The sad news arrived shortly after 6 p.m. Central Thursday, almost 11 weeks after the five-member CAAF panel heard Lieutenant Behenna’s final appeal of the verdict that found him guilty of unpremeditated murder in the shooting death of Ali Mansur, a known Al-Qaeda operative in Iraq.
It is beyond comprehension how multiple levels of the military justice system were able to reconcile the lieutenant’s conviction with the fact that the government’s own expert witness reached the conclusion that the lieutenant acted in self defense — see this post and this post for more details — but they did. And by a 3-2 margin.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/07/shame-on-the-nation-american-hero-.html
To expect the present day brass to accept that rough measures are a part of war is futile. These guys are polishing their own resumes, hoping to make ran by proving themselves politically correct. This became perfectly clear when Casey came down to Hood and showed his yellow stripe.
But, but Islamists are just misunderstood!!! If Benhenna had given him a hug, this could have all been prevented.
The military has been politicized beyond anything even imagined just 50 years ago. This is really FUBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What seven kinds of insanity is this? Did I read that correctly? Three mortal, fallible men stripped this Marine of his right to life, that comes from God, and is specifically noted in the Constitution?
The self-defense laws are based on our right to life, and what these horribly combat-ignorant judges did was unconstitutional.
And can we please get back to waging war properly? We’re supposed to kill people and break things until the enemy can fight no more and must sue for peace.
Why are we “fighting” under rules of engagement? They should be called “rules for the enemy to kill our guys or have them thrown in prison.”
I haven’t been this disgusted in a long time, and I’ve been listening to Obama blather on for weeks.