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Government Laser Scanners Will Scan You From 164 Feet Away
Gizmodo ^ | 7/10/12 | Gizmodo

Posted on 07/10/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by listenhillary

Hidden Government Scanners Will Instantly Know Everything About You From 164 Feet Away

Within the next year or two, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security will instantly know everything about your body, clothes, and luggage with a new laser-based molecular scanner fired from 164 feet (50 meters) away. From traces of drugs or gun powder on your clothes to what you had for breakfast to the adrenaline level in your body—agents will be able to get any information they want without even touching you.

And without you knowing it. The technology is so incredibly effective that, in November 2011, its inventors were subcontracted by In-Q-Tel to work with the US Department of Homeland Security. In-Q-Tel is a company founded "in February 1999 by a group of private citizens at the request of the Director of the CIA and with the support of the U.S. Congress." According to In-Q-Tel, they are the bridge between the Agency and new technology companies.

Their plan is to install this molecular-level scanning in airports and border crossings all across the United States. The official, stated goal of this arrangement is to be able to quickly identify explosives, dangerous chemicals, or bioweapons at a distance.

The machine is ten million times faster—and one million times more sensitive—than any currently available system. That means that it can be used systematically on everyone passing through airport security, not just suspect or randomly sampled people.

(Excerpt) Read more at gizmodo.com ...


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Title wouldn't fit. Original title is "Hidden Government Scanners Will Instantly Know Everything About You From 164 Feet Away"
1 posted on 07/10/2012 7:22:36 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

I think it is about time to put our foot down. Not quite sure how we do it though.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 7:27:16 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: listenhillary

Guess that whole secure in their persons and property thing got left by the side of the road.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 7:27:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: listenhillary

If this is for real, forget airports - they will be installed at grocery stores, post offices, sports stadiums, bus stations- you name it - Cowardly New World is here.


4 posted on 07/10/2012 7:27:46 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: listenhillary

>> Instantly Know Everything About You From 164 Feet Away

everything? instantly?

bullshit.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 7:28:44 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“everything? instantly?”

More than you would imagine from reading a headline and excerpt.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 7:33:56 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Irenic

The where, though, is 165 feet away....


7 posted on 07/10/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: listenhillary

>> More than you would imagine from reading a headline and excerpt.

I read the hyperbole-loaded article. Not surprisingly, it’s loaded with hyperbole.


8 posted on 07/10/2012 7:38:33 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: listenhillary
If this report is true, then should be no problem locating IEDs in the field.

5.56mm

9 posted on 07/10/2012 7:39:22 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: green pastures

Wonder if this scanner can fit on a drone? That would sure help the Health Care Nazis, eh? They could put Bloomberg in charge. /s

We must turn all this around, it is getting to the breaking point. I think that is what they want. We break and they can REALLY change things. I don’t even like to think about it.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 7:43:22 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: listenhillary

Sounds like the junk from the Terminator movies, made real.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 7:43:28 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: listenhillary

I wonder if it can detect flatulence.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 7:43:58 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Nervous Tick

http://www.geniaphotonics.com/business-markets/defense-and-security/ds-chemical-detection-sensing/


13 posted on 07/10/2012 7:49:43 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Sioux-san
If this is for real, forget airports - they will be installed at grocery stores, post offices, sports stadiums, bus stations-you name it.

'you name it'? Okay, welfare offices.

14 posted on 07/10/2012 7:50:30 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (I just don't know what to put here right now.)
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To: listenhillary

I’ve been telling people for a few years already that gun rights will soon be a moot point. This is the proof. When they start mounting these things on light poles and telephone poles along with cameras(that can ID you from your face) on every pole, your puny antiquated little guns won’t mean SHIT. If they scan something on you they don’t like, they will instantly revoke your gun “privileges” and issue a warrant for your arrest. Then the drones will swoop in and tazer your ass from 30 feet above your head and wait for a paddy wagon to come hog tie you and haul you to a detention center.

Mark my words. It is less than 20 years away.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 7:52:37 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: listenhillary

Thanks for the link.

However, discerning a lot about your chemistry IS NOT the same as knowing everything there is to know about you.

Words have meaning, and the outlandish claims in the article you posted are *still* hyperbole. Or, in the vernacular of the day, “bullshit”.


16 posted on 07/10/2012 7:56:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Irenic
I think it is about time to put our foot down. Not quite sure how we do it though.

For this particular invasion of privacy? Here's the perfect new suit for the world traveler;


17 posted on 07/10/2012 8:05:29 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (My dog, yes. My wife, maybe. My gun....NEVER!)
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To: M Kehoe

Talked with some guys that were trying to get $$ to develop just such an IED detection device about six years ago. never heard any more about it.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 8:05:29 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

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20 posted on 07/10/2012 8:15:57 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: listenhillary
Just try to shine a damned laser at one of them and see what happens.
21 posted on 07/10/2012 8:16:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Irenic
That would sure help the Health Care Nazis, eh?

Yes, we can be pre-screened to see if we even warrant making an appearance before the death panels...
22 posted on 07/10/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: GladesGuru

Bonk


23 posted on 07/10/2012 8:28:53 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: listenhillary

Just for the record right now this is vapor ware. I was involved in some of the Terahertz testing for a conceptual proof of application. While the goal is as stated in the article, no one was having much success. And I gurantee that mid-ir or even Thz wave lengths will not be travelling 50 meters and remain unscattered.

The fact that money is being spent on this should in fact scare everyone


24 posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: listenhillary

Just for the record right now this is vapor ware. I was involved in some of the Terahertz testing for a conceptual proof of application. While the goal is as stated in the article, no one was having much success. And I gurantee that mid-ir or even Thz wave lengths will not be travelling 50 meters and remain unscattered.

The fact that money is being spent on this should in fact scare everyone


25 posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Question: Would this thing expose passengers to radiation like the scanners at airports? We’re talking about microwave, right?


26 posted on 07/10/2012 9:14:34 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Nifster

This is not Terahertz technology. It is a scanning laser backscatter spectoscope. This would be much less intrusive than the current methods.


27 posted on 07/10/2012 9:18:38 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SubMareener

Freedom????? We don’t need no stinkin’ freedom!


28 posted on 07/10/2012 9:33:19 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Irenic
I think it is about time to put our foot down. Not quite sure how we do it though.

OUr feet aren't what need to be put down.

29 posted on 07/10/2012 10:07:37 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: mamelukesabre

I think you’re overly optimistic my friend.

My estimate is less than 10 years or by the end of Ob’s second term, whichever comes sooner.

They already are doing “preventative interventions” a la the movie “Minority Report”.

There have been funny black boxes mounted over the arrival walkway in the Ontario airport for about a decade that EVERY arriving passenger passes under.

They have truck mounted scanners that can monitor activity inside what used to be your one location of “expected privacy” - your home.

Imagine for just a moment or two, at the industry accepted rate of doubling every 18 months, how much more computer power the average gubmint grunt will have at their disposal in just 10 more years that they will use to invade your privacy WHEREVER you are and WHATEVER you might be doing in order to justify some sort of criminal complaint/control over you ............

Let’s see ..... 10 years = 120 months

120 months / 18 months per doubling of cpu power

My 3rd grade math skills tells me that is about 6.7 “doublings” in JUST the next 10 years!

I think that translates to the computer today running your smart phone will be 2*2*2*2*2*2 = 64+ times more powerful than it is today. Just think for a moment what your friendly neighborhood gubmint meglomaniac control freak will be able to do with his handheld gizmo by 2022 ........


30 posted on 07/10/2012 10:34:16 PM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: listenhillary
The machine is a mobile, rack-mountable system. It fires a laser to provide molecular-level feedback at distances of up to 50 meters in just picoseconds. For all intents and purposes, that means instantly.

Paging Dr Einstein. Please pick up the nearest Courtesy Phone!

31 posted on 07/10/2012 10:45:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SubMareener

And the laser being used is in the THz range.... back scatter is a phenomenon not the wave length f the laser used. But still the point is that this ain’t anywhere close to being ready...a year from now??? No way


32 posted on 07/10/2012 10:58:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: PastorBooks

Not microwave lengths. The lasers involved are in the terahertz range. People are exposed to radiation all the time. But as to your concerns about it being like the scanners at the airport....the short answer is no. Less fluence is needed hence less exposure for humans


33 posted on 07/10/2012 11:01:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I know that backscatter spectroscopy is one of the most highly secured projects at a national/private lab near me.


34 posted on 07/10/2012 11:07:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

It has been around for years. The applications and laser sources are what is classified


35 posted on 07/10/2012 11:21:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nervous Tick
I can imagine gunpowder being tracked into every courtroom
and mall around the country. The states would have to change their laws
to allow this breach of privacy from the Government. It would be akin to taking toilet samples
from everyone using a public restroom for drug testing.


I wonder why the Government would search civilians where there is no crime.

36 posted on 07/10/2012 11:25:09 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Irenic

80 million shotguns being racked in unison and pointed at the appropriate threats, would be a good beginning.


37 posted on 07/11/2012 12:01:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

BUMP!


38 posted on 07/11/2012 12:19:38 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: listenhillary

Just think of the money to be made marketing a personal detector for these things and then there is the APP for reporting the location of the sensor/user.

Ah yes! a whole new industry is about to be born! Halleleu-YAH! We are saved through technology. /sarc


39 posted on 07/11/2012 3:46:16 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: CanuckYank

sooo probably about 4 times the computing power of a high end tower PC in a smart phone sized device by then.


40 posted on 07/11/2012 6:23:30 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: listenhillary; Drumbo
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41 posted on 07/11/2012 7:10:20 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: The Working Man

Judging by some of the comments, the detector should be set up so it can easily attach to a tinfoil hat.


42 posted on 07/11/2012 7:13:53 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: listenhillary

will this be like the puffer machines?

seriously, who is lobbying for this?


43 posted on 07/11/2012 8:08:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Genia Photonics Inc., a high technology company specializing in fiber-laser based systems, announced today a strategic partnership and technology development agreement with In-Q-Tel.

About IQT (In-Q-Tel)

In-Q-Tel is the not-for-profit, strategic investment firm that works to identify, adapt, and deliver innovative technology solutions to support the missions of the U.S. Intelligence Community. Launched in 1999 as a private, independent organization, IQT’s mission is to identify and partner with companies developing cutting-edge technologies that serve the national security interests of the United States. For more information, visit http://www.iqt.org.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/GeniaPhotonics/prweb8922932.htm


44 posted on 07/11/2012 8:45:22 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Nifster

Are you sure about that? This isn’t imaging, it’s spectroscopy - all they’re looking for is a spectrum signature that a chemical gives off when it’s subjected to terahertz rediation. Conceptually, it’s very easy, and has been done for decades. I’m pretty sure the computing power we have today can handle applications like this in a product that size.

What do you think I’m missing?


45 posted on 07/11/2012 11:24:53 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana

Yes I am sure about that. I have worked on back scatter applications for a long time. You are talking about long distance and getting a distinguishable signal in return. Noise is the killer. Yes it has been done for a long time. But they are trying for a remote unit that is not laboratory sized. It is NOT about computing power... it is the fundamentals


46 posted on 07/11/2012 11:55:50 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

As yoi have expertise in back scatter apps, is it possible you can guide us to a face slapping app for use on our elected officials?

Anything that will enhance the effect of slapping them down in an election booth would be greatly appreciated.

;-)


47 posted on 07/11/2012 12:03:53 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

I like your thinking. Unfortunately, the app may still be in development. perhaps it will release this november.... ;)


48 posted on 07/11/2012 1:36:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: mamelukesabre

Yup, sumpin like that ......... pretty spooky, at least to me.

Cops, local “Building & Safety” storm troopers masquerading as “Code Enforcement Officers”, and any other gubmint goon active in maintaining the “general welfare”

Did you see the recent item about the CE goon who strolled right into a sleeping woman’s bedroom in order to serve a notice for “front yard grass to high”?


49 posted on 07/13/2012 8:01:27 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: CanuckYank

yep.

An old lady just a few blocks away from my business property told me a city code clown has been harassing her for months trying to get permission to enter her house to check for “living standards”. Once time he even showed up with a city cop to try intimidating her into letting them enter. She didn’t even answer the door...just let them stand there till they got tired of standing there and then they left.

They have been trying very hard to condemn as many houses as possible to make it easier to build condos. The mayor has his fingers into the company that is building condos in the area. They’re all crooks as far as I’m concerned.

Some day they won’t need permission or even to look around inside. They will have scanners to see through the walls and will make their judgement from a thousand feet in the air. The EPA has already started doing this to farmers for environmental concerns.


50 posted on 07/13/2012 8:27:21 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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