Family says accused soldier needs PTSD treatment, not punishment

"The commanding general of the 18th Airborne Corps, Lt. Gen. Frank Helmick, has agreed to take jurisdiction of Eisenhauer's criminal case, but only if Cumberland County District Attorney William West asks.

"We worked very hard to convince the military that the fair and appropriate thing for them to do was request prosecutorial jurisdiction, and they have agreed to do that," said Mark Waple, Eisenhauer's attorney and a West Point-educated former Army attorney. "Now the ball is in the court of the Cumberland County district attorney's office. We hope to have a response from them within the next few days. What happens next depends on what that response is."

Ok, There is something that has interested me for along time and something I do not get.
For the last 20 years or so we hear frequently about PTSD being prevalent in our soldiers.
How come our parents never heard about PTSD after WWI or WWII or Korea and not even the beginning of Nam? Nam we started hearing about it towards the end. It’s just a curiosity.
My Dad and his brothers all served in WWII as did my fatherIL, my uncle served in Korea and early Nam, I do not remember any of them talking about this, or their friends.
So what is different now?

My completely unsubstantiated intuitive theory is this: most simply it is that the soldiers are put into service told that they are fighting for certain ideals, that they are the protector of those ideals. Then they return to their country to see it not only devoid of those ideals, but those ideals actively suppressed.

Legal theory, for instance: they are told that they are under no obligation to follow illegal orders and that the Constitution is the highest law of the land... yet their whole organization, their whole society, is actively geared against them acting against the biggest threat to that Constitution: their own government. The "line" is always two steps away, and while society tells them it's two steps in front they know it's two steps crossed.

The cognitive dissonance is enormous, the separation from "normal people" is itself normal because "normal people" wouldn't feel both used and betrayed because "normal people" know that everything is fine, that the government really is acting in accordance with the Constitution. So obviously it must be the soldier that is wrong

I know I felt betrayed and impotent and... useless when I came back from Iraq in 2008, just in time to catch Obama's election and TARP. That election was particularly disturbing because it illustrated the "just shut up" attitude given by those in power to those concerned about upholding the Constitution.

Ok.
Your reply to me makes sense and it made me cry - damn you.
I wept with soldiers returning from Nam who were spat upon - what the hell has happened.
(OK enough of self pity)
Moving forward, fighting to the death for people who love and UNDERSTAND who the USA actually is.
Thank you for your service.
My Dad lost an arm in WWII and he was considered a hero. To me he was “Captain Hook” we always played Peter Pan, I was a kid. As an adult I knew what he sacrificed, and he was willing.
I have family in special forces, Air Force and the Navy, I know what they give. I love them for it, yet weep they do not receive the same appreciation my Dad, uncles and fatherIL received.
The service today is not less important.
Thank you for your service, I salute you.
I am so very sorry you and other like you do not receive the honor and respect you deserve.
I apologize for America.

Ok.
Your reply to me makes sense and it made me cry - damn you.

I'm sorry, didn't mean to make you cry.

I wept with soldiers returning from Nam who were spat upon - what the hell has happened.

I have theories about that too; but I think CS Lewis got it right: talking about "men without chests."

(OK enough of self pity)

It's not just self-pity; the rest of your post shows me some genuine empathy -- and since when did it become "unmanly" to feel remorse/sadness over something bad?

Moving forward, fighting to the death for people who love and UNDERSTAND who the USA actually is.
Thank you for your service.

You're welcome.

My Dad lost an arm in WWII and he was considered a hero. To me he was “Captain Hook” we always played Peter Pan, I was a kid. As an adult I knew what he sacrificed, and he was willing. I have family in special forces, Air Force and the Navy, I know what they give. I love them for it, yet weep they do not receive the same appreciation my Dad, uncles and fatherIL received.

I think that they were perhaps a better quality man than we are today; it is intuitively obvious that the organization that produces the strongest/best individuals is the family; the family has been under attack from government for how long now?

The service today is not less important.
Thank you for your service, I salute you.
I am so very sorry you and other like you do not receive the honor and respect you deserve.

It's ok; I'm [was] one of those REMFs mentioned above. My job was detainee ops, think prison guard with more than a touch of overpaid-scarecrow/underpaid-babysitter. (The really horrible thing about that job is that even if your shift went perfectly you could beat yourself up for the times you caught yourself staring int space or letting the mind wander, etc.)

I apologize for America.

Apology accepted? [Can I do that? Can you apologize on behalf of the country?]
In any case, I think the only way to restore America is to do justice.

Also God says this:
2 Chronicles 7:14 -- Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.

PTSD existed after WWII, the Korean War, etc. I had an uncle who went into the Marines and spent all of WWII in the Pacific...fighting island to island. When he finally came back from the war...he took advantage of the GI bill...got educated....became a teacher, and eventually a school principal. In the process, he eventually got divorced and separated from his kids. He drunk to excess. He’d have a beer or two at lunch. He’d have a number of drinks after he left work. And he’d drink throughout the evening hours.

I would add this as well...in the old days...if you were shot, it was a fair chance of you dying. We’ve come to a point where you could suffer some significant wounds, yet survive and live on for decades. The problem is that you probably suffered some emotional issues and those items just aren’t fixable.

PTSD is going to be a major drain on our society for the decades to come. We will blame a lot of things for these GIs and the issues that arise, but we asked for the impossible, and they gave it to us....and we have to accept PTSD as part of the payback.

A large part of it is because in a therapist/client situation, the client HAS to feel that the therapist is empathic or truly knows how the client is feeling. This is really impossible for someone who has not been in combat for 7-20 months! Also, it is that relationship of trust and empathy that creates the healing situation.

If this understanding is so important, and all counselors know that it IS, I think there should be a new type of counseling for PTS, the counselor, the sufferer, and the partner veteran. Just like in group therapy, the counselor guides or however they want to do their “thing”, but this partner veteran should be with the sufferer 24/7. Chosen by the sufferer.

Just an idea and didn’t get much sleep...

The drugging of our service people is a monstrous outrage. The Jerks peddling this garbage are all too ready to tell the unsuspecting troops that they should Seek Help. WRONG! The help offered comes with a psychiatric diagnosis of PTSD, which DOES literally Ruin the rest of their lives. It pops up every time they apply for a job. They’re Branded BY the VA and Military Doctors as ticking time bombs.

Almost ALL of these so called picker upper or calmer downer drugs are already down AT the FDA as Causing psychosis, and Psychosis is an Official Diagnosis of schizophrenia. People do not improve from these drugs. They get sicker and sicker, not just in actuality, but on paper as an Official Record they’ll go through all kinds of hell trying to get rid of.

Here’s a VA page on schizophrenia, which is what these drugs produce.

http://www.mirecc.va.gov/visn3/education.asp

“Algorithms:

A review of existing algorithms, including VA National Guidelines, APA, the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP), and PORT was conducted. After careful consideration, a modified version of TMAP was selected, and named the New Jersey Algorithm.

The sequence includes two trials of atypical antipsychotics followed by a Clozaril trial. If no favorable response is observed, a third atypical neuroleptic is tried, followed by a typical neuroleptic, followed by a combination of antipsychotic medications. The consensus of the internal advisory committee was to provide a flexible algorithm that will allow for minor modifications as new research is disseminated. Though a positive outcome has not been observed with the NJ Algorithm to date, researchers suspect that a larger sample size might generate significant findings in the future.”

VA Serves 5.3 Million Vets and active duty personnel. The commonly accepted incidence of Selling schizophrenia is 1% of the population. Schiz is actually grossly oversold for all manner of reasons, most of which involve Medicare, Medicaid, and Tricare Fraud.

1% of 5.3 Million is 53,000, and the VA hasn’t had a Single Positive Outcome Yet for the most severe diagnosis they’ve got, with ANY of their S**T Drugs. NONE! But the pushers still want even more test subjects.

If you want to know what the New Jersey Algorithm was modified from, here’s the original TMAP.

http://psychrights.org/Drugs/AllenJonesTMAPJanuary20.pdf

The entire horror is a pharmaceutical con job.

We should be giving our returning vets a high five and a thank you, is there anything we can do to help? Instead we’ve auctioned them off to a drug deal, that has had No Positive Outcome, Ever.

And thanks for the link.

There is SO much about this subject that just plain stinks,

Yes, I’ll put something together over the next week to 10 days, probably a header with subsequent comment postings for the live link sets to credible Medical and Scientific sources.

Here’s one to tide you over. Eli Lilly made $65 Billion selling the atypical antipsychotic Zyprexa. Use the search box and scroll down to Zyprexa.

http://lamplightersoftware.com/dsm.php

Top 20 Adverse Drug Reactions reported for Olanzapine and its Brand Names
Adverse Reaction Cases
Diabetes Mellitus 2,313
Weight Increased 1,346
Pancreatitis 972
Hypertension 804
Hyperglycaemia 698
Diabetic Ketoacidosis 588
Diabetes Mellitus Non-Insulin-Dependent 583
Death 578
Metabolic Disorder 576
Blood Triglycerides Increased 562
Obesity 430
Blood Cholesterol Increased 429
Diabetic Coma 387
Blood Glucose Increased 359
Blood Cholesterol Abnormal 343
Vision Blurred 343
Condition Aggravated 320
Weight Decreased 316
Drug Exposure During Pregnancy 302
Myocardial Infarction 288

And those are Only the ones anyone bothered to report because reporting Drug Adverse Events is Voluntary, not Mandatory. Those are Only the US, and the stuff’s sold globally. Those are Only from Jan 2004-Sept 2009. I’ve got a report somewhere from 3 years ago where Zyprexa induced Diabetes topped 22,000 cases.

Here, 94% of Drug AEs never even get reported.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16689555

And here’s the kicker, Dr Grace E. Jackson is a Psychiatrist. She’s one of the very, Very few who are blowing the whistle.
Here’s how Lilly bought Zyprexa(Olanzapine) FDA approval.
http://psychrights.org/States/Alaska/CaseOne/30-Day/ExhibitD-Olanzapine.htm

Read that one and you’ll never trust Anything out of FDA again.

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