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Shooter Took Prescription Drug Before Attack
Denver Chan. 7 News ^ | July 21, 2012 | editors

Posted on 07/21/2012 5:05:35 PM PDT by nightlight7

First responders to the Aurora theater shooting at first thought the shooter was a fellow officer, and the shooter had taken 100mg of Vicodin about two and half hours before the shooting, according to information from sources.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: jamesholmes; shooter; theater; vicodin
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To: driftdiver

He’s a murderer and deserves to rot in the pit of hell.


Agreed, but I sense there are a few associations of his that need to be discovered quickly so they can rot in hell, too.


21 posted on 07/21/2012 5:51:55 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: boop

lol Are you kidding? You think taking ten 10mg of Vicodin would make you comatose? No.
Especially if you’re used to taking them everyday or you’re addicted to them.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 5:52:38 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: cicero2k

Possibly he knew the alarm was disabled, or that it would be ignored for whatever reason. Being the apparent Batman and comic book hero geek that he’s purported to be, he’s no stranger to movie theaters and possibly knows that particular multiplex well, it’s only four miles or so from his apartment.


23 posted on 07/21/2012 5:55:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: nightlight7

This evil perp was brilliant. In addition to all of the rest of his preparations, he took enough painkiller that he could continue shooting people despite receiving wounds that would otherwise cause debilitating pain.

I don’t know his motive, but it is clear that he was very thorough in his preparation. It is as if he sat down and war-gamed shootings with a goal of just seeing how long he could keep shooting and how many people he could just impact.

My hat is off to him. Brilliant.

You never want brilliant and evil to intersect. You want evil to join stupid, so it has less impact. Evil and driven is bad enough. But when evil and driven have brilliant behind them, you get what we got in Aurora CO.

I would not want to be him when he stands before the Lord Christ for a long bitter discussion. All the Vicodin in the world will not dimple the crushing pain that will wrack his immortal soul when he stands before Christ and Christ says “you know what you did”. I pity him that.

In the meantime, a long parade of school teachers, Hollywood producers, journalists, and atheists all played a role in the creating this demonic monster.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 5:56:49 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: boop

Signal to noise, so much static that anything out of the ordinary is rejected. Clintons used it to great effect, so much unbelievability swirling about them that the brazen truth was rejected as a lie, too.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 5:59:05 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: nightlight7

Vicodin usually comes in 5 or 7.5 mg pills. Rare do you find 10mg. So he took about 15-20 pills. Cripes.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: snarkytart

mmm...

I’ve known people with terminal cancer who could have all they want and doubt any of them took 100mg in 16-18 hrs.

Since ‘vicodin’ is hydrocodone with acetaminophen, it’s possible some Dumas reporter or LEO just got the facts wrong.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 6:01:34 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: snarkytart
I've been on oxycodone and hydrocodone for months at a time, several times, for knee injuries, and if ever took 100mg at once, even of hydrocodone, something would have been wrong with me, I can tell you that.

And that's not even considering the acetominaphen, like the others have said.

28 posted on 07/21/2012 6:10:41 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: nhwingut

My grandmother in her 80’s takes 3-5 10mg pills a day. It’s her tolerance to them that brought her to that level, especially common for those that are long term pain sufferers and have been prescribed this type of narcotic for long periods of time. She weighs a mere 110lbs and will be on them for the duration of her life. She started at 5mg some years ago, and it is up to the 10mg now, every four hours if needed. It doesn’t have the effect someone new to the pill would get.

Taking 10 10mg or 15-20 lower dose pills at one time would affect cognition I believe and if he did it to stay upright if taking hits it was probably methodically planned with tolerance levels built up. Just like the rest of his pre-planning that seemed long term. I personally think taking 100mg at one time, one could expect difficulty with breathing, seeing in the dark, and staying awake. If he was accustomed to them and built a tolerance level, he may have gotten a bit of a high or euphoria from taking them in that quantity.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 6:12:14 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore. We were duped.)
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To: jjotto

I’m telling you people who are addicted or who are used to taking them can easily take ten pills. Five at one time, then a few hours later take another five.
It’s not gonna send you into a coma or kill your liver....at least not right away. If you do this over a period of time yes of course. Lets say this idiot was used to popping five to six pain killers a day. It wouldn’t knock him out to up the dosage a few pills for this one “special” occasion.

I had a cousin who spent thousands a month on pain killers because she’d take around 7 or 8 a day, and Vicodin isn’t even the strongest of pain killers.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 6:15:05 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: nhwingut

Wrong, they commonly are prescribed in 5 mg, 7.5 mg, and 10 mg depending on your pain and the willingness of the doctor.

I’ve seen loser pain pill addicts able to con a doctor into giving them 10 mg.


31 posted on 07/21/2012 6:18:06 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; EEGator
It was a prescription drug! We must ban prescription drugs!

It was something, anything related to the killings! We MUST ban Something, ANYTHING!!

32 posted on 07/21/2012 6:18:22 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: nightlight7

So it was the AMA and NOT the NRA (as the New Yawk Daily Snooze ‘editorial board’ claims) who was “standing beside” Holmes when he was killing those people?


33 posted on 07/21/2012 6:21:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: snarkytart

Not to mention college age adults get them illegally all of the time. Finding someone selling 10 mg of Vicodin would not be hard for this loser especially if he’s meeting people online for group sex etc.


34 posted on 07/21/2012 6:21:45 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: snarkytart

I asked a doper (since I’m sure there are none on FR), and he’s never taken 100 at a time but has taken 90, and knows of addicts who probably do 500mg in 24 hrs! Given varying individual tolerances, 100 is possible in one survivable dose, though I’m still skeptical one could function very well.

Learn something new every day...


35 posted on 07/21/2012 6:24:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: snarkytart

36 posted on 07/21/2012 6:26:25 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: DSH
So, either Holmes didn't know what he'd taken, or the cops misunderstood what he told them, or the reporter's source that communicated this information screwed up, or the reporter misunderstood what he or she was told by the source. It could be anything . . . or nothing.

Exactly. At this point, we know little for certain other than that this coward killed a lot of innocent people while dressed to protect himself. 'Course if he did indeed tell authorities he took that much vicodin, he could just be attempting a little CYA, in advance of a pharamaceutical Twinkies defense.

37 posted on 07/21/2012 6:27:40 PM PDT by dorothy ( "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: snarkytart
it's exceedingly powerful stuff ~ they gave me a vial of maybe 100 pills of Vicodin after eye surgery. Gave me another 100 pills of the same stuff after a little more aggressive type of eye surgery a month later.

I used 1 pill with the first and 1 pill with the second.

I preferred the pain quite frankly so I quit using them. They are all around here somewhere, but Vicodin is not a joke.

38 posted on 07/21/2012 6:33:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: snarkytart

That’s roughly 3250 mg to 5000 mg of acetaminophen, or up to 10 max strength Tylenol. The narcotic isn’t going to be what kills you. Plus, if he took it in th 5 mg dose, that would be 10000 mg. dead or nearly dead any way you pop it. This story is BS.


39 posted on 07/21/2012 6:41:08 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: eddie willers

http://www.drugs.com/answers/what-is-the-maximum-dosage-for-vicodin-in-what-367721.html

What is the maximum dosage for vicodin? In what milligram dosages are tablets available?

“Vicodin strengths come in 500mg, 660, and 750mg, the maximum dosage for this medication is 1-2 pills every 4-6 hours depending on severity of pain and that information changes with the max dosage allowable for the adult... which is not to exceed 1gram (1000mg)per dose/or 4 grams (4000)mg per day...”


40 posted on 07/21/2012 6:52:03 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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