Skip to comments.History of Violence: Guns vs. Hollywood
Posted on 07/23/2012 1:57:30 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Now, a friend of mine sent me some interesting stuff here. It's a good way to understand what happened in Aurora, Colorado, and the anti-gun reaction. It's an interesting timeline of things. Let me run through it fairly quickly here.
The time since the introduction of relatively useful long-barreled weapons is approximately 600 years. Six hundred years the rifle has been around -- 600 years, give or take. The time since the introduction of pistols using more than one bullet: At least 150 years. The time since the enactment of the Second Amendment: 221 years. And that's an important number to remember, because since the effort to blame this on the Tea Party failed, now it's time to go for the Second Amendment.
So it's been 221 years since the enactment of the Second Amendment; 600 years since the introduction of the rifle, a long-barreled weapon; and 150 years of pistols able to use more than one bullet. The time since Tim Burton took a charming, funny, and wholesome 1960s kids' show...? I was thinking about this over the weekend. I remember watching Batman on television, and it was a cartoon show with human characters. Adam West was the guy who played Batman.
And every time Batman punched somebody, the word "POW!" in a comic book bubble came up. Burgess Meredith played the Penguin. I forget who was the Joker. Cesar Romero was the Joker. It was a comedy show. It was a cartoon show. It was a charming, funny, wholesome 1960s kids' show that was on at 7:30 ET. But how long has it been since Hollywood metastasized that show with sick, dystopian, and occasionally anti-American worldviews? Do you know what "dystopian" means?
For those of you in Rio Linda, it's the opposite of utopia. "Utopia" is perfection on earth. "Dystopia" is utter, total failure and chaos. Dark, dank, colorless, finished. It's over. So Batman in the sixties on TV metastasizes to a sick dystopian, hyper-violent Batman movie in 23 years. Twenty-three years since Batman on TV to the first Batman movie. And the birth of the modern Batman series of films with which the killer in Aurora explicitly identified, by his own admission...
What are you frowning at me about, Snerdley?
But on the television. I'm talking about the television show, popular media. It was a kids' show. It was harmless, family-oriented fun. You laughed at that show. Batman in the comics was not so much. It was still a comic book thing. Anyway, in 23 years since the Batman TV show, it's become what this guy explicitly identified with. And then you can bring up Oliver Stone, if you want to. He made a movie called Natural Born Killers. It was a "love story." Woody Harrelson was in it. It was a love story about mass murder.
Natural Born Killers.
That's the movie the Columbine killers identified with.
That took 18 years. (They also kind of dug the Matrix movies.) The time in which the prevalence of spectacular, multiple murders for no obvious point other than celebrity has accelerated is approximately the past 20 years. We've had long-barreled rifles for 600 years. We've had multi-bullet pistols over 150 years. We've had the Second Amendment for 221 years. We have had spectacular multiple murders for no obvious point other than celebrity accelerated like crazy in the past 20 years.
My point is, how do you blame the Second Amendment? How do you blame the guns for this? The guns to do this kind of thing have been around for all kinds of time, but you can peg other elements in our culture that have been around lot less time and have much more influence (if you want to start arguing influence). I didn't bring this up. I'm simply reacting to it like I always do. You want to start blaming the Second Amendment? You want to start blaming guns? Then let's talk about it.
What are you shaking your head in there for?
I'm not blaming anybody. I'm reacting. I'm not blaming anybody. The guy who did this is who gets the blame. Look, I'm just not gonna sit here and listen to the Constitution of this country be blamed for this. I'm not gonna let that go. Pure and simple. They start the game; I'm gonna finish the game. I'm Mr. Moneybags in Monopoly, and I'm winning the cash in the middle of the board with the roll of snake eyes.
RUSH: If there's any political lesson to be learned -- and I, frankly, shy away from trying to politicize things like this in Aurora, Colorado -- folks, it's undeniable that our culture is sending messages, a lot of terrible messages to really weak, I don't want to say dumb, but maybe mentally impaired people. Most people are able to handle it, compartmentalize it and deal with it as what it is. It's entertainment. It's over there and it's self-contained and it's not real. Other people aren't able to make those distinctions. Jared Loughner, Gabby Giffords shooting, was one who wasn't able to.
You note that nobody's calling for the banning of violent Hollywood movies or rap music. They're two heavily invested in the Democrat Party. Nobody's gonna call for the banning of comic books. But they will call and use this crisis to call for more gun control even though Colorado, after the Columbine shootings a few years ago, Colorado already has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. And the truth of the matter is that criminals and lunatics never have any problems breaking the law. They never have any problem findings guns or explosives. The laws only stop other people from being able to defend themselves. Law only stops the law-abiding, by definition.
I remember being in the fashionable salons of Fifth Avenue early on in my broadcast career in New York, when I was essentially being vetted for membership in these salons. These elite types would invite me over for dinner. I would be the circus act, and they'd start in with their traditional beliefs. For some of the smartest people around, by reputation, they'd start railing, for example, on an issue, and one night it was gun control. We're right on Fifth Avenue, Central Park is across the street. I said, "Look, if you can guarantee me that after you take everybody else's guns, people across the street in the park are not gonna have their guns, then maybe we can talk. Until you can tell me that your plan will take guns out of the hands of criminals, then I'll listen to you. But if you can't guarantee --" and of course they shut up. There was no way that they could make that claim.
Blaming guns for murder is like blaming forks for obesity. Someone misused a gun; therefore no one's allowed to have one. This is what passes for logic among the left. I think the mayor out there, or the governor, said this guy would have found ways to do what he did in that theater whether he coulda gotten guns or not. A Democrat, local political official, said as much, and he's right.
They can have the guns if they guarantee me that criminals will not have guns. Also they need to guarantee me that the American people will never need guns to protect themselves against a rogue government.
I think you mean "Pinto."
I remember well the hysteria led by the MSM after Bobby Kennedy was shot.
They blamed violent movies. Violent TV shows. Violent comic books, the NRA, 5 shot bolt action Army surplus rifles and handguns, mail order guns.
So the MSM led the charge for the 1968 Gun Control Law.
“Today we make America safe by taking guns out of the hands of criminals” said LBJ when he signed that travesty into law.
Adult orented TV shows dumbed down to kiddie shows.
Movies from the 1940s through the 1960s were recut to remove “violence” for TV showing.
Comic books stopped the violence for a short while.
The movie industry staved off government regulation by claiming they would police themselves with a joke of a rating system. This allowed them to start churning out the most violent and sexually explicit movies possible. It has gotten worse since as now TV has programs that would have gotten you tarred and feathered back in the 1960s.
Now days the MSM only blames guns even though some of the worst mass murders in the last 110 years were done by bombs and gasoline.
I agree with Rush. I have been saying this for years. These people are after fame, and it does not matter. The left has this obsession with celebrity, which is highly overrated. I think they see it as a kind of immortality, which serves as a twisted substitute for faith in God.
It was horrific, 16 people killed and twice that number wounded. But it could have been a lot worse if armed citizens hadn't pinned the jerk to the floor of the tower after the initial carnage. This enabled law enforcement to get safely up there and gun him down.
Of course, the POS Texan in the White House used it as an excuse to push through additional gun control legislation with super congressional majorities which had rubber-stamped earlier legislation in wake of the JFK assassination.
While we probably agree on the stupidity of gun control, you are wrong here. From the tower at the University of Texas at Austin you did not read far enough in the article:
"Death of Whitman
"Austin Police Department (APD) Officers Ramiro Martinez, Houston McCoy and Jerry Day, plus civilian Allen Crum, were the first to reach the tower's observation deck, stepping outside the south door at 1:24 p.m. Martinez, closely followed by McCoy, formed one team and proceeded north on the east deck. Day, followed by Crum, formed a second team and proceeded west on the south deck, with Whitman believed to be between the two teams. Several feet before reaching the southwest corner, Crum accidentally discharged a shot from his borrowed rifle. At the same time, Martinez jumped around the corner into the northeast area and rapidly fired all six rounds from his .38 police revolver at Whitman. As Martinez was firing, McCoy jumped to the right of him and fired two fatal shots of 00-buckshot with his 12-gauge shotgun into the head, neck, and left side of Whitman, who was sitting with his back toward the north wall in the northwest corner area 50 feet away. Whitman, who appeared to be unaware of the presence of Martinez and McCoy, was partially shielded by the deck tower lights and in a position to defend assaults from either corner.
"After firing six rounds, Martinez threw his empty revolver onto the deck and grabbed McCoy's shotgun, running to Whitman's prone body and firing point blank into his upper left arm. Martinez then threw the shotgun on the deck and hurriedly left the scene repeatedly shouting, 'I got him.'
After tending to the wounded in the stairwell, APD Officers Milton Shoquist, Harold Moe and George Shepard made their way up the stairs to join APD Officer Phillip Conner and Texas Department of Public Safety Agent W.A. Cowan, arriving on the 28th floor as Martinez, McCoy, Day and Crum were outside on the observation deck. Moe, with a hand-held radio, heard Martinez as he ran past shouting 'I got him,' and relayed his words to the APD radio dispatcher.
"Houston McCoy appeared before the Travis County Grand Jury on August 5, 1966 and received a justifiable homicide verdict for the death of Whitman."
I was 18 at the time, attending Navarro Junior College and just came in from bailing hay north of Kerens, Texas. My cousin was a student at UT then and he took the photo that came out in Life Magazine of Whitman's body being removed from the tower.
They blamed violent movies. Violent TV shows. Violent comic books, the NRA, 5 shot bolt action Army surplus rifles and handguns, mail order guns.
RFK was the fig leaf for all the anti-gun actions. Recall the earlier black riots across the country. Remember the "saturday night special"plague. All meant to cut-off cheap and/or affordable non-registered weapons to the black community.
Prior to that, as a ten year old I could browse the open aisles of unsecured long guns at any Sears without any adult or salesman being alarmed. Once or twice I was admonished against dry firing them. WWII surplus Enfields and Carcanos were found in a large local hardware chain, Hechingers. They were stacked in barrels still coated in cosmoline. Again un locked and unsecured. All for the price of $20 or $15.
Walking down a country road with hand me down .22's caused no comments aside from something like, "you ought to take yourselves back of Jack's, there's plenty of rats there."
I was able to listen to this piece today. Outstanding. and he also ripped McCain and came to Bachman’s defense quoting the Andrew McCarthy article. Great start to my week. Thank you Rush!!!!!!!!!
There was a particular slap at the Kennedy family in that the Italian Carcano rifle supposedly used came from a Chicago supplier that had been financed by one of Joe Kennedy's banks.
I remember accounts of the incident telling of people going to their vehicles to get their guns after the initial carnage and firing into the tower at Whitman. Firearms in vehicles was fairly commonplace back in the 1960's. At least some accounts credited the armed citizens with distracting Whitman long enough for the APD to make a safe approach. Prior to that, at least one kid and a woman had been killed by Whitman in trying to approach the tower.
By Wiki's own account, the first shots were fired at 11:48 a.m. and the APD didn't reach the observation deck until 1:24 p.m. That's one hour, 36 minutes total. I can't imagine Texas citizens waiting that long today, much less in 1966.
***I remember accounts of the incident telling of people going to their vehicles to get their guns after the initial carnage and firing into the tower at Whitman.***
This is exactly what happened. Whitman was hitting people at very long ranges with his telescope rifle. When people started firing back they kept him pinned down well enough for the police to enter. He still kept firing using his M-1 carbine, but wasn’t hitting like he did with his rifle.
When NBC presented a made for Tv movie of this incident they downplayed the people firing back and at the end when it was mentioned Whitman had a brain tumor, NBC had a loud voice over advertizing another TV show so people missed the brain tumor statement.
And let’s not forget this piece of filth!
The nurses’ deaths were morally superior to other shooting deaths because none of them were shot. Only strangled and stabbed.
but they were still dead.
Think about it though, no smoking on tv or the big screen anymore.
It makes the NY anti-soda campaign in theaters even that much more ludicrous.
You can sit and sip your water while watching whatever Hollywood serves up on the screen.
The reason that many countries tried to ban guns was not to fight crime, but to stop communist/anarchist revolutions in the 30s and 40s.
Actually, most gun bans were to remove resistance to communist/socialist takeovers. Hitler was against private ownership of firearms. He was also a socialis (Nationalist Socialist Workers Party).