Posted on 07/30/2012 7:04:26 AM PDT by marktwain
A semiautomatic assault rifle, anyone? How about a few thousand rounds of ammo? On July 20, those weapons of choice killed 12 innocents at the Century 16 Theatre in Aurora, Colo.
The shooter legally bought an AR-15 assault rifle, three other guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition, according to police. In America, acquiring a lethal assault rifle is almost as easy as picking up a buttered popcorn at the movies.
The communities of Aurora, Columbine, Virginia Tech, Northern Illinois University and Chicago’s South and West sides know that.
The families of thousands of murdered and injured souls get it. All those left behind, forever transformed, see it.
Why don’t our politicians?
The minute the grim news blasted out of Colorado, our “leaders” started scrambling, running away from the message seared into every lethal bullet — these guns must go.
(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...
So, because this particular type of gun, which any rational person would admit is amoung the most Constitutionaly protected because of its suitablility for militia use, must be banned because they are extremely rarely used to commit murder.
The "progressives" are superbly adept at lying to themselves.
We private 2nd Amendment advocates, NRA, GOA, etal had better be ready to push back because this Aurora, CO incident and Scalia’s comments are going to precipitate the biggest, most extreme push by the left for gun/ammo control/confiscation that we’ve seen. We’ve got to fight back.
Automotive deaths: 33,000.
Nobody complains.
We must not forget, it is 13 lives. Didn’t 24 of Holder’s people kill each other in Chicago that day as well?
I suspect it was actually 24 killed "and wounded". I don't think the Chicago Civil War has gotten that intense. Yet.
But there was a 12-hour period at about that time that had 5 killed.
Idiots who know NOTHING about guns should not write articles about them.
Yes, they ARE self-righteous bastards, huh?
Somebody inform this idiot that most of the Aurora victims were hit with BUCKSHOT, FROM A SHOTGUN!!!!
I’m not insulted. Better a “Person of the Gun” than a “Slave of the State”.
>> Somebody inform this idiot that most of the Aurora victims were hit with BUCKSHOT, FROM A SHOTGUN!!!!
Is that so? First time I’ve heard that. It makes some sense though.
Well...they do cost about the same.
That Should include you, sorry if I sound harsh but you have a magazine fed Semi-Automatic rifle. I get so tired of people who think they are gun people replace the word clip for a magazine... Clips help you load magazines!! Sorry about the rant but I doesn't help the the Cause if you can't properly name the parts of a weapon. I'll not be replying if you chose to send back a negative reply.
And, which of these are "Gun Free Zones?"
ALL OF THEM!
Somebody inform this idiot that most of the gun crimes are black-on-black.
How about if you even look like a gang-banger, you will be subject to close scrutiny, harassment and frequent searches.
What if his rifle is an M1?
Behind the scenes to this anti gun reaction is the US Pharmaceutics industry. What all these shooters share is they all are on psychotropic drugs. Anti depression drugs as well as behavioral controlling drugs are common amongst all these shooters. No drug is fully tested, and when used in a large population, someone among them will react adversely to it. Holmes was treated with drugs for behavioral issues and he had a bad reaction and became violent. Eliminating guns will not stop the homicidal act by these drugged up individuals. If they don’t kill massively they simply stalk the streets and killing their victims one by one in a serial manner. The terror will not be in hours but in weeks over a wide area. Problem is perscription drugs, not guns. Look carefully and you will see big Pharma is also funding and lobbying gun control to take the attention off their violence inducing drugs.
Other than the Federal background check. And aren't all firearms lethal?
What a stupendously idiotic statement. It sets the tone for the entire article.
“semiautomatic assault rifle”: contradiction in terms, much like the phrase “thinking liberal”
As has been pointed out an AR-15 clone is not an assault rifle, it is a semi-automatic.
Second, maybe the author is right, maybe popcorn at the movie theater should require a national background instant check to purchase. I mean about 2/3rds of the US adult population is either overweight or obese and with a national health care plan that means that their medical expenses are public taxpayer expenses. So, yes, lets require everyone who buys movie popcorn to go through an instant background check to find out if they have been exercising, if they are overweight and/or if they have any medical conditions that would not be helped by a large helping of buttered popcorn. (/sarcasm)
Seriously, the right to keep and bear arms is a God given right that our US Constitution (and several State Constitutions) affirms.
Just had a little shootout in the Heart of Texas (Brownwood)
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2012/jul/29/just-3-dead-brown-county-shooting-afternooon/
Is that a man?
If you think I'm quibbling, tell me there's no difference between a lightning bug or a bolt of lightning landing on your head. We're trying to educate the public on the definition of an "assault weapon" (a weapon capable of fully automatic fire), so words matter.
Brilliant.
(Quoting a Johhny Cash tune:) "I tell ya, life ain't easy for a man named Laura"
Hand guns and shot guns were featured at those grim spectacles. Not that a little detail like that should sidetrack a good screed.
U.S. murders 13,636.
Wonder what the demographic breakdown is for that?
For practical purposes it is a difference with rare distinction. Very few people carry weapons that take stripper clips. I liken it to people who use “effect” when “affect” is correct. Yes they are wrong, but not a single person was confused about their meaning.
I'm an avid gun collector, shooter, and military firearms historian. I have guns that take en bloc clips, clips, removable magazines, and clips & removable magazines. I find it possible to know details about firearms and not get my panties in a bunch when others confuse them.
I suggest that you calm down and focus on getting upset about things that matter, and try not to be a nomenclature nazi. People don't need to know what a piston ring is to have a valid opinion concerning the speed limit.
Indeed. "progressives" are and liberalism is a mental disease.
FMCDH(BITS)
It’s still magazine fed!!
http://www.keepshooting.com/firearm-accessories/m1-carbine-parts/m1-carbine-magazines
Ought to stop digging.
In America, acquiring a lethal assault rifle is almost as easy as picking up a buttered popcorn at the movies. Other than the Federal background check. And aren’t all firearms lethal? What a stupendously idiotic statement. It sets the tone for the entire article.
I wonder if anyone has noted that the 5.56 nato round isn’t exactly known as a man killer. Its primary criticism is lack of lethality. That’s why they dusted off old m-14 for iraq.
“I wonder if anyone has noted that the 5.56 nato round isn’t exactly known as a man killer. Its primary criticism is lack of lethality. That’s why they dusted off old m-14 for iraq.”
Really? Then tell that to all those dead bad guys from it. The M-14 was dusted off due to needing longer range shots. Guess what? They went back to the AR-15 platform and created the SPR shooting a heavier bullet. It works wonders for longer range and the bullet it shoots works even better in the M4 for very short ranges.
Automotive deaths: 33,000.
Nobody complains.
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“Doctors Kill more People than Guns”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/tabor010405.htm
Correct Nomenclature keeps you from running laps.
This is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun. Have a great day.
BZZZZT! Wrong. The weapons didn't kill anyone, but someone USED THEM to kill. Huge difference.
Thanks for playing.
Next!
Gentlemen, and ladies of the jury, I rest my case.
Yep. Interesting that the weapon that most Leftists claim is the only “reasonable” gun to own, a shotgun, is far more deadly in a mass homicide scenario than an AR-15.
Grandad’s old 37 Ithaca 12 ga holds 45 00 buckshot pellets, which can be discharged in under five seconds.
Try getting 45 rounds out of an AR-15 in 5 seconds.
Evidence is clear the shotgun was used first.
Dependng on whether he used #0 or #1 buckshot, each round contained between 12 & 16 shot.
May have had between 5 and 8 rounds, without reloading.
5X12=60
8X16=128
AR-15 drum feed jammed early and he switched to the Glock.
Not so good for hitting anything smaller than the side of the building.
LOL
You mean it has a mounting place that allows a bayonet to be fixed, don’t you? Cuz it sounded like it has a bayonet attached that you can’t take off, and my cousin’s AR-15 didn’it.
Of course, a semi-auto shotgun can also be bump fired.
It always comes down to intent. There are no end of lethal ways of murdering lots of people in a packed space, such as a few gallons of gasoline at the exits.
We are lucky in a sense, that most crazy people act crazy, and not logical.
The logical ones are truly dangerous!
They are prone to use planes, and gas in subways, and stuff.
I’m only telling your what I’m hearing. Time and again I’ve heard of soldiers and military arms enthusiasts complain about lethality.
From what I understand, the wounding nature of the round is seen as an asset in some circles. That the theory is that a dead soldier costs nothing, but a wounded enemy requires two to carry him to aid and the medical resources to health him.
Personally, I’d rather make sure I don’t have to put the same man down twice.
The demographics are not easily discerned.
We know that half are committed by and against black people.
I have read that when “Hispanics” (whatever that means) are victims, they are counted as “Hispanic” but when they are perpetrators they are counted as “white”.
When Japanese Americans were kept as a separate category, Japanese in America had homicide rates lower than Japanese in Japan, which has very low rates indeed.
Murder is fundamentally cultural, and the rates of homicide are not changed very much by access to weapons.
Bowing low to the people of the gun is much preferred to bowing low to the Saudi king.
In a crowded theatre the shotgun would have been the more lethal weapon.
It always comes down to intent. There are no end of lethal ways of murdering lots of people in a packed space, such as a few gallons of gasoline at the exits. We are lucky in a sense, that most crazy people act crazy, and not logical.
He could have brought in, amonia bottles and chlorine. Can your say mustard gas? He could have brought in a bunch of molotov cocktails. Or he could have rigged a pump to a gas tank and made a flamethrower. Imaging the body count that would have produced. Or he could have used a bomb.
I can’t think of this stuff all day long, while libs only think a gun can’t kill.
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