Posted on 08/03/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Most people outside Southwest Virginia have never heard of Virgil Goode, a former Franklin County congressman with a distinctive drawl who conceivably could decide the presidential election. But he is well known to President Barack Obama's team of political advisers.
Goode served six terms in Congress and is gathering signatures to appear on the ballot here as the presidential candidate from the Constitution Party.
He's already on the ballot in more than a dozen other states with an anti-immigration, pro-term limit platform he hopes makes a dent with the electorate.
It's not likely to be much of a dent, but enough in Virginia for Obama campaign officials to take close notice of his potentially helpful candidacy.
But within the Obama camp he is considered one of two who could tilt the race by pulling votes away from Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
The other is Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico whose presence on the ballot could make a difference in the presidential contest in states such as New Mexico and Colorado.
But Democrats see Goode and Johnson as this year's Ralph Nader, whom they still blame for Al Gore's loss to George W. Bush in 2000.
"If Virgil Goode gets on the ballot in Virginia that is going to make it very tough on Romney," said Democratic strategist Joe Trippi, a veteran of presidential campaigns. It's difficult to imagine Romney getting the 270 electoral votes he needs to win if he doesn't carry Virginia, Trippi said, adding that Goode "would be potentially crippling to Romney."
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At this point Goode has the four votes of my immediate family. Romney has no opportunity to gain them because he can’t unbe what he is.
Romney.
Oh goody. Here we are again - discussing whether a third party candidate might prevent willard from being coronated.
Have you ever noticed that the “solution” offered by the abo crowd is to castigate the third party candidate who is running against willard as a conservative? I guess it never occurred to the abo’s that if willard actually was a conservative or if he ran as a conservative that it wouldn’t even be an issue.
Or perhaps that’s really the nut of the issue with the abo’s. It isn’t about conservatism at all; it’s about getting willard elected regardless of his views or what he would do.
“FUMR! PLAIN ENOUGH FOR YOU?”
LOL! But tell us how you *really* feel.
“I think he is just living in Realville when he speaks on those subjects.”
That’s a nice way of saying he’ll do absolutely nothing about either issue, even if it were within his power to do so.
“He will share 3 pct with the green freaks.”
Naaaah. He’ll do better than that in Virginia. If for no other reason than people are deathly tired of the nonstop hussein and willard ads. Virgil also has good name recognition in the western and central parts of VA, which are the conservative parts of VA for the VA challenged.
And then there’s that little issue of only two names appearing on the VA gop presidential primary ballot. It was widely perceived as a fixed election: willard didn’t gain any friends in VA over that.
“You’ll have nothing to “slap at” if obama gets a second term to finish up what he’s started. America? Freedom? FORGET ABOUT IT. A slap at the GOP will be the least of your problems.”
Have you ever noticed that every four years, the chicken-littles come out of the woodwork proclaiming that if we don’t vote for whatever candidate the gop nominates, then all manner of plagues and ills will befall us? And every time, the arguments are more shrill? And every time, the gop candidate gets worse?
It’s a suckers game. Feel free to peddle it to suckers.
“By the way has Goode been “vetted”. Do you really know who Goode is?”
By whom? The VA gop? The same folks who decided that they didn’t want our primary ballot cluttered with candidates other than willard?
“as someone who lives in the area, Goode is going to play the spoiler for Romney sucking off 5% of the vote.”
As another Virginian, I think you’re about right. I’d put it at 5-10%.
“What we don’t know is if Goode will steal some of the blue collar Dem vote in the rural areas.”
I think he probably will. willard is viewed as a plutocrat by a lot of these folks and the person they know...Virgil...will do reasonably well as a result. That will of course be offset somewhat by the folks who will choose to vote ASBO (any socialist but obama).
“It’s up to Romney to convince all of us that he is in fact a champion of liberty and will be a good president, thereby winning back Goode’s supporters.”
The funny thing is that willard could win a lot of conservatives over by doing some relatively simple but effective things:
1. Push for removing abortion cases from the jurisdiction of the Federal courts.
2. Push for repeal of the gun control act of 1968.
3. Push legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.
Sadly the chances of him doing any of the above is nil.
The problem with the asbo crowd is that they want conservatives to “compromise.” But their idea of “compromise” is not that conservatives get half a loaf, it’s that we get nothing and smile while getting it.
So you would rather see the Marxist Obama get in versus the RINO Romney. That is exactly what is going to happen by voting for Goode. I don’t think you and others understand the number of families suffering across this country because of Obama and his policies. Apparently you and others don’t care about that. You guys talk about evil but on the other hand don’t give a damn about the suffering that is going on. I just don’t get it.
You don’t get it because you vote based on political results. You use your principles to decide what result is more favorable. Purist vote on what makes them feel more better. Pretty sick, but it’s what happens when self comes before country
I vote because there is real pain and suffering going on in this country under the Marxist Obama. People have lost jobs and their income with no hope. People have had to move in with their parents in order to survive. People watch the savings dwindle down to nothing. I see this in my own neighborhood. Then there is the other side of things that Obama is doing to make this a 2nd rate country such as cutting the military, having us depend on foreign oil and energy and the list goes on.
You tell me how voting for Goode is going to change that? Any of it. It’s not. At least with Mitt there is a fighting chance to turn this thing around. Some of you have been talking about evil. Well I see evil in those who don’t seem to give a damn about those that are suffering in this country and the direction it is taking. That IMHO evil.
Any VA FReeper who votes for this phony assclown should have their head examined. Goode enthusiastically supported the Equal Rights Amendment - yep, the crazy Gloria Steinem ERA - in the 1970s, and more recently backed uber-liberal Douglas Wilder for Governor. Now, just because he is SAYING the right words about immigration, we are supposed to believe he is NOW a “conservative”? Sorry...’aint buying it. I think it is more likely he is part of a DNC/OFA scheme.
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You cannot reason with morons and/or Obama trolls.....
May Obama crush them like bugs -
Financially and otherwise I will do just dandy and laugh at Obama and his useful idiots from afar.
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I doubt it no one takes these characters seriously but you may be right
“As I said, JR is a known quantity -— you are not.”
Well obviously I am a “known” quantity to JR. Since he is the owner of the forum....what he thinks counts. What you say doesn’t. Also, you got your head handed to you by JR for your comments about equating not voting for Romney as being a vote for Obama. You just aren’t to bright.
Jim Robinson has been very clear:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627159/posts
He states:
“As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our BORDERS, our constitution and our national sovereignty.”
He further states:
“We aggressively defend our God-given and first amendment guaranteed rights to free speech, free press, free religion, and FREEDOM of ASSOCIATION, as well as our constitutional right to control the use and content of our own personal private property. Despite the wailing of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is NOT a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists dedicated to defending our GOD-GIVEN rights, defending our constitution, defending our republic and defending our traditional American way of Life.”
He has also been clear in other posts the pushing Mitt Romney (in other than an ABO way) falls under “obnoxious propaganda” mentioned above. Especially, as I emphasize again, the foolishness that not voting for Romney is the same as voting for Obama.
In a recent post Jim Robinson had this to say about Romney:
“FR is a pro-God (the one true Judeo-Christian God, of course), pro-life, pro-family, pro-small government, pro-liberty grassroots conservative site. Those who know me personally know that I do not object to Romney because of his religion. I object to him because of his thirty some odd year history of advocating for abortion and his solid pro-homo, pro-big government progressive statism. He is after all the author of and chief advocate of RomneyCare which morphed into ObamaCare and $50 taxpayer funded abortion and he also ordered same sex marriage to be the “law of the land” in Massachusetts just like his precious Roe v Wade became the “law of the land” even though neither were legislated or passed legally into law.”
In the same post he goes on to say:
“I absolutely loathe Obama and what he is doing to this country, but loathe Romney and what he has stood for during his entire history just as much. I will never trust that rat bastard and I will never vote for him or support him, even though I pray with all my heart that the usurping Marxist Barack Obama is sent packing by the American citizens.”
BTW - Based on other things JR has written, (I am pretty sure) he is talking about removal of Obama by impeachment and trial in the Senate. Be clear he doesn’t want Romney to be elected.
Keep posting pro-Romney nonsense and risk a zot from Jim Robinson....if and especially if you get “obnoxious” about it. I have witnessed this occur on numerous occasions. In each case posters (even very long time ones) pushed the envelope to far from opposing Obama (we all agree on that) to vigorously supporting Romney....i.e. calling persons (like Jim) that refuse to back Romney because of what he is...”Obama supporters.” That is over the line. That is not acceptable here. Stop doing it. That should be simple enough to understand.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Oh I understand what hussein has wrought just fine. It affects my own family. I simply don’t buy off on your premise that an unrestrained socialist with an R after his name will do any less damage than a somewhat restrained radical socialist with a D after his.
Similarly, you understand the point of view of your conservative opponents just fine, you just don’t agree with people who are no longer willing to line up at the gop-e koolaid stand.
(I'm not talking 'bout the too-close-to-call swing states -- like Virginia...only the obvious liberal states)
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