Skip to comments.CBS News: Shooter Identified As Former US Military Member
Posted on 08/06/2012 6:08:34 AM PDT by FR_addict
...CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit...
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This is also interesting-- "serving in psychological operations unit"
finally!! A mass murderer they can condemn and use to advance gun control
The my be messing in their pants: he is not a muzzie, a minority, a homo, NONE of the protected groups..
Hope it turns out he is a democrap
finally!! A mass murderer they can condemn and use to advance gun control
They must be so happy: he is not a muzzie, a minority, a homo, NONE of the protected groups (so far)
If it turns out he is a Republican too then I think they will need a change of underwear.
Why would you want him affiliated with any group, especially a national political party?
Not that I don’t trust anything SeeBS News says.....
I’m not sure if it is federal, state, or local law, but in Durham, NC, you are not allowed a concealed carry license if you have anything other than an honorable discharge.
Maybe some one here knows the law on owning or purchasing a gun.
So was Nadal...but I don’t see the words domestic terrorism associated with his murders by the PC admin. and press.
Using the CBS criteria, a single enlistment, a BCD, and no apparent contact with the DOD for 14 years - how many other criminals qualify for their headline?
Doesn’t this make three that were supposedly working with/studying psychology: Ft. Hood, Aurora Shooter and this one?
What do they study in those departments anyway?
This guy was out of the military before 9/11, not sure if this has a mistaken identity aspect to it. (as in too stupid to know the difference between Muslims and Sikhs)
So, they’re categorizing this as domestic terrorism but the Ft Hood shooting as workplace violence. Got it.
To put it in civilian equivalences: A less-than-honorable is considered to be about a misdemeanor conviction, but a Duck Dinner (dishonorable discharge) is considered to be a felony conviction.
1 shooter in psychological operations for the army, 2 in neuroscience labs in universities, one as a teacher one as a student, in the last couple of years....just a little strange. Begs the question, what are they messing with?
Conservative Charlie Sykes in Milwaukee will be talking about this incident now:
It’s evidently federal law: http://www.justice.gov/usao/ut/psn/documents/guncard.pdf
Possession of a firearm or ammunition by a prohibited person b: By a subject who falls within one of the following categories: ...
Dishonorably discharged from the military
Are they using people as guinea pigs, or what? Forget the guns, they are a distraction from something much more nefarious. (that is according to my tinfoil hat beeber, though)
A less-than-honorable discharge is not a dishonorable one. The only way to get a dishonorable discharge is to be convicted in a courts-martial. Sounds like Page was Admin discharged.
Something just isnt right with this incident. Wonder if it is a false flag type of ops....like Ruby Ridge
I wouldn’t put it past the left to have “programmed” these guys to go out and do this. Twice in a couple of weeks and the timing before the election seems very suspicious.
My friend’s dad was in Korea and he swears they used mass ‘conditioning’ for soldiers.
As he said, “How else are they going to get little farm boys who say yes m’am and go to church every Sunday to just kill someone on command. You can order it, you can expect it, but it’s something else for them to actually pull the trigger on a human face.”
I understand there’s General, Medical, Section 8, and Hardship discharges. There may be others. But maybe other than General those would be under Honorable conditions(?)
Googling that e-mail address suggests it’s not him. Living in SC as of June, and was apparently still posting comments on articles as of last night:
The internet allows us to smear the good names of people all over the world, from the privacy of our basements.
What does his previous military experience have to do with anything? He was discharged almost 15 years ago and was never deployed. We need to stop harping on this because it adds to the barriers our veterans have reintegrating and finding work. This tie in to military experience scares the pants off civilian employers.
Off, OFF Damned Sarcasm!!!
“What does his previous military experience have to do with anything? He was discharged almost 15 years ago and was never deployed. We need to stop harping on this because it adds to the barriers our veterans have reintegrating and finding work. This tie in to military experience scares the pants off civilian employers.”
Most of our vets are not less-than-honorable discharge. I think the fact that he was less than honorably discharged separates him from the majority of veterans and could be a clue as to why he committed this act of terrorism.
Well, although it’s hard to sort the wheat from the chaff, there is a lot of wheat to be found by a google search for MK Ultra or Project Talent. Leave bread crumbs so you can find your way back out of that rabbit hole. :)
Loose ends suggestive of mind control ops can be readily identified in all the domestic false flag operations for decades. Don’t want to get all AJ here on FR, but it’s getting a bit hard to ignore, IMO.
How else are they going to get little farm boys who say yes mam and go to church every Sunday to just kill someone on command. You can order it, you can expect it, but its something else for them to actually pull the trigger on a human face. Especially if that person is a fellow citizen, or family member."?
The types of military discharges:
Honorable; General (under honorable conditions); Under Other than Honorable Conditions (OTH); Bad Conduct (also known as the BCD; and Dishonorable.
The last two discharges come at Court-Martial proceedings. The General and OTH discharges come from administrative means. Such as failures to do your job, DUI cases, being over weight, etc. They also come from some types of misbehavior and having multiple Article 15s under the UCMJ (those are punishments by commanders at company or battalion level which can reduce a soldier in rank, take away pay, restrict movement, extra after hours duties, etc.). Generally soldiers who simply cannot or will not conform. You also could, used to be, discharged for being a homo.
Definitely NOT the same guy.
Thanks too for the clarification.
Muzzies are a protected group.
Only when a white ex-serviceman does this do they call it ‘domestic terrorism’.
“....he is not a muzzie, a minority, a homo, NONE of the protected groups....”
They discovered all that info in less than 24 hours?
Let’s wait and see what else they discover (and hide?) about him.
Thank you both.
I checked and it appears that the vast majority of American veterans have never killed anyone. 99.99999% of American military veterans have not gone in to a Sikh temple and killed anyone.
While it is interesting that the shooter was in the US military at some time it is meaningless. Maybe he was a paperboy too or worked the counter at McDonalds in the past. Those past occupations would be equally as meanlingless. Why this is even being discussed is puzzling to me except that it fits the lefts agenda regarding gun control? Ex military control? Or maybe ex paperboy or McDonalds counter help control?
We have lost the ability to think logically sometimes in this country. The media will focus on the “ex-military” aspects of this but won’t look in to Obama’s past at all. Sick.
‘White supremacist skinhead’ shooter who gunned down six at Sikh temple ‘was kicked out of the army and had 9/11 tattoo’
Growing up on a farm is pretty much programing in and of itself.
You shoot at us, and we shoot back.
Having been raised on a farm, we’re just better shots.
We live, they die.
I like the dailymail title better than the titles in American media.
This is the part I was bringing out on this thread.
I like the way the daily mail titled their story:
White supremacist skinhead shooter who gunned down six at Sikh temple was kicked out of the army and had 9/11 tattoo
Yeah, a fourteen year gap and MSM looks at his (Sikh murderer) so-called “military record.” What other things did he do in that time span, participate in a few Occupy rallies? eat some dog? attend college?
If this hasn’t already been posted, it’s worth posting just for the title.
Wasn't the DC Sniper a Former US Military Member?
Born as John Allen Williams, joined the Nation of Islam and changed his name to John Allen Mohamed.
I dont believe you are correct
what if you were not in the mil and if you choose not to provide a DD214 who would know?
He was attached to the US Army Psychological Unit at Ft. Bliss Tx. Holmes was involved in neuroscience research funded by govt. Does anyone here know how to calculate the probability of that?
Re: “Less Than Honorable Discharge” & “Gun Purchase”
His discharge was based on job performance.
NOT discipline or behavior issues.