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Joe Soptic, the man blaming Romney for wife’s death, is a familiar face on the anti-Romney beat
The Examiner ^ | 8/7/2012 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 08/07/2012 4:00:48 PM PDT by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill

Folks, no one, no one in this country is refused medical care, even if they cannot afford it. Joe Soptic is the killer of his wife, no one else. People who lose their jobs are covered by COBRA for at least eighteen months. I have lost jobs before, but.....as the head of the household, I always made sure we had the medical insurance to cover severe illness or injury by taking odd jobs and leaning on family for help to get by and protect all of our family. And....I returned the favor, when other family members fell on hard times. That’s the American way!!!

But....even if this low life Democrat, Joe Soptic had no insurance, his wife would not have been refused treament for her cancer, no matter when it was found. And....how come no complaints about Obama and the Democrat Party that have caused millions of Americans, union members and management, to lose their jobs, their medical care and their pensions. America, wake up, Obama and his Democrat henchmen are no friends of the American public. Wise up!!!


21 posted on 08/07/2012 4:45:57 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: musicman

What kind of man is Joe Soptic that he would let the Democratic party urinate on his dead wife’s grave. I hope he was paid handsomely for his slovenly act.


22 posted on 08/07/2012 4:55:18 PM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: tobyhill

STUPID Union MENATALITY!!! WHY the HELL didn’t he get insurance??? What an AIRHEAD....”SOMEBODY TAKE CARE OF ME” mentality......sick.


23 posted on 08/07/2012 4:58:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tobyhill

Call him “Joe Septic” — the ad typifies the Left’s diseased mindset...


24 posted on 08/07/2012 4:59:15 PM PDT by mikrofon (Liberalism *is* a Disease.)
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To: Nifster
Geez, what a whiny beotch!

According to Mr. Soptic, his wife received her primary insurance through her employer – a local thrift store called Savers – and retained it even after his layoff. Soptic's policy through GST Steel was her secondary coverage. In 2002, Mitt Romney formally left Bain. Sometime in 2002 or 2003, Mr. Soptic says his wife injured her rotator cuff and was forced to leave her job. As a result she lost her health insurance coverage and Mr. Soptic's new job as a janitor did not provide coverage for his spouse.

My wife's father cut lawns and did handywork as a one man operation for a living, her mother worked as a seamstress. They were never provided health insurance and even without having two nickles to rub together and living in a very small frame house that her father built, they made sure they had health insurance paid for out of their pockets.

I had rotator cuff surgery on a Wednesday late afternoon around 2004/2005. I was at therapy on Friday morning and back to work as a CAD operator the following Monday. I could have taken a longer medical leave on my own insurance and did not even try to use my wife's as a secondary. It was my right rotator and I am right handed. Mr. Soptic is a vile SOB and I would tell him to his face that their self induced dependency on unions and government is at the root of their lot in life. He gambled and lost. What a friggin pansy.

25 posted on 08/07/2012 5:00:31 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Saltmeat

Joe Septic is a TYPICAL Democrat......BLAME SOMEONE ELSE!!


26 posted on 08/07/2012 5:00:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tobyhill
I lost my best friend to cancer 5 years ago. He had good insurance. He was active and athletic. He took good care of himself and had regular checkups. He started having severe headaches which his doctors were unable to relieve. After a series of tests he was diagnosed with lung cancer (he was a non-smoker) and received the best treatment available. He was gone in less than 3 months.
My point? Even if she had the best insurance possible available to her, Mr. Soptic's wife may have lost her battle with cancer anyway. There are no guarantees in life.
27 posted on 08/07/2012 5:09:32 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: tobyhill

One life??? Wait until they see all of the Grand Dad’s and Grand Moms dropping after Obamacare rationing.

Obama killed a couple of hundred Mexicans and one Border Patrol Agent with F&F.

How many has Obama’s Arab spring killed?


28 posted on 08/07/2012 5:10:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill
Very illuminating article here:
"4: If you look at the steel companies that went under at the time, all of them were unionized," he said. "I'm not saying this was the only factor -- these firms faced other headwinds such as cheap labor and a strong dollar ... but the unions held them back."

"5: For Joe Soptic, who worked at the plant for 28 years, that meant a loss of $283 per month, about 22 percent of his pension."

"6: After nearly 30 years as a steelworker, Joe Soptic found a job as a school custodian. The $24,000 salary was roughly one-third of his former pay"
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#4 Seems strange. Unionized steel companies all went bankrupt when faced with increased foregin competition, but NOT non-unionized? Let's read below to see if we can solve the mystery.

Well let's see here. For #5, Joe Soptic, he lost $283/month in his pension, which was a 22% decrease. So, what was it before? 22% of x = $283, so x=a monthly pension of $1286. I checked what the AVERAGE pension was for private sector workers here: it's $641 (avg pension of $7692/year). So these guys are getting DOUBLE (!!) the pension of the average private-sector worker. Well how about their wages?

For #6: Joe was making $24k, which was 1/3 of his former pay. That means he was making $72,000 as a steelworker. How does that compare? I checked here at the BLS. Result? Supervisors at steel mills get $28/hr, about $44,000 / year. Really? These guys are making $72,000 a year when the HIGHEST PAID in the steel industry is $44,000 / year.

So, John Hawkins in his blog is railing on Romney as the bailout king. He should REALLY be THANKING Romney for trying to turn GS Technologies around and save the company, by working for 10 years with little to show for it, because HIGH UNION WAGES AND PENSIONS ballooned the company's debt levels and made them UN-prepared to face competition.

That should be the REAL story; that Bain, that actually made "an average annual return on investment of 88 percent between its founding in 1984 and the end of 1999" (88% return? Great job, Mitt!) tried to help out GS."


29 posted on 08/07/2012 5:28:11 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: tobyhill; All

If Mitt doesn’t bring this out in an ad (that this guy is a “professional” DNC ad actor), he doesn’t have sense enough to be president. This is magnitudes worse than even what Reid is doing.

Further...this guy came up with the money to put his daughter through college, but couldn’t take care of his wife? (Of course, free college is on the agenda for 0’s second term, if he waits that long)


30 posted on 08/07/2012 5:30:00 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: mazda77

If she injured her rotator cuff on the job, it’s an industrial injury. Why didn’t she go back to work?? If off the job, she had coverage to get it repaired and likely continue to work. Of course, the may be other circumstances but this is a fraudulent story on several counts.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 5:31:16 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: mazda77

well said well said


32 posted on 08/07/2012 5:35:22 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: tobyhill

Looks a little like Bob Newhart...
......crossed with a douchebag.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 5:37:51 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Or hook up with Cindy Sheehan or Trayvon’s parents or Gabby Gifford’s husband or Obummer himself...


34 posted on 08/07/2012 5:53:03 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: StAnDeliver

My first impression was Paul Begala


35 posted on 08/07/2012 5:53:35 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: cardinal4
That IS kind of creepy. Sort of like tradmarking your son’s name after his unfortunate death or something..

WHOA - that one WAS creepier. Their son had been dead such a short time... This - using a dead wife - is second...

36 posted on 08/07/2012 6:26:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (..convinced if you put a compass in the hands of a liberal, it will point south -Fr Neveronmywatch)
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To: mnehring

Also if the company was losing money and had to close, isn’t it a good thing they tried to buy out his job?


37 posted on 08/07/2012 6:43:52 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: mazda77

My son is 17 and I have not had a job that offers health insurance until April of this year, yet my son has been covered since he was 6 months old...how can this be?!? Its because I decided that was a priority and got him an individual policy. If I can do this at age 19, still a child according to the government, while making minimum wage, this person could have done so as well, had he wanted to or had any motivation to do so. He’s a douche and the bag it came in.


38 posted on 08/07/2012 6:50:02 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: scrabblehack

Absolutely. I’m sure he got a severance package too. Better than coming in one day and the doors are locked with no notice or severance.

One thing that hasn’t been brought up is COBRA laws. Under COBRA, he may have been able to continue his health insurance on his own dime.


39 posted on 08/07/2012 6:52:23 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: GOPJ

Cross posting from other threads, because I think this bears repeating ...

As disgusting as this ad is, it is also very much indicative of how the Obama Campaign is viewing the political landscape right now.

This is an ad designed not to boost Obama’s own base, or to flip moderates/independents over to him. It’s designed, explicitly, to suppress the white blue-collar/working-class voters that will either hold their nose and vote for Romney, or stay home.

It means they think they’ve topped out in terms of their own numbers, and now need to pursue other means to get to victory.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 6:53:22 PM PDT by tanknetter
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