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Slow path to progress for U.S. immigrants: 43% on welfare after 20 years
The Washington Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 08/08/2012 1:31:13 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

Immigrants lag behind native-born Americans on most measures of economic well-being — even those who have been in the U.S. the longest, according to a report from the Center for Immigration Studies, which argues that full assimilation is a more complex task than overcoming language or cultural differences.

The study, which covers all immigrants, legal and illegal, and their U.S.-born children younger than 18, found that immigrants tend to make economic progress by most measures the longer they live in the U.S. but lag well behind native-born Americans on factors such as poverty, health insurance coverage and homeownership.

The study, based on 2010 and 2011 census data, found that 43 percent of immigrants who have been in the U.S. at least 20 years were using welfare benefits, a rate that is nearly twice as high as native-born Americans and nearly 50 percent higher than recent immigrants.

The report was released at a time when both major presidential candidates have backed policies that would make it easier to immigrate legally and would boost the numbers of people coming to the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; burdentosociety; economy; freecheese; fubar; illegals; immigrants; immigration; legalimmigration; poverty; socialistsimported; welfare; welfarestate
Makes sense to me. Why would we want immigrants who can contribute to our society when we can select American hating parasites?
1 posted on 08/08/2012 1:31:22 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Exactly... this is why we should limit immigration to the best and brightest that are looking for Freedom and Liberty... not a kinder, gentler form of communism.

LLS


2 posted on 08/08/2012 1:34:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

That’s just great.........import more welfare staters

Madness . .


3 posted on 08/08/2012 1:34:16 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

...they may fall behind in some things but lead in others...like tax returns. Declaring 18 nieces and nephews at one address still has me puzzled. A return some where’s around $29,000 dollars. Then have the head of the government agency saying “we’re trying” to seek out those cheating.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 1:41:06 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Democrats have been doing a swell job of fixing the poor people shortage


5 posted on 08/08/2012 1:42:39 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Doogle

http://times247.com/24-7-videos/billions-in-illegal-immigrant-irs-fraud-exposed


6 posted on 08/08/2012 1:43:49 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: LucianOfSamasota; Liz; AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ..
RE:”The study, which covers all immigrants, legal and illegal, and their U.S.-born children younger than 18, found that immigrants tend to make economic progress by most measures the longer they live in the U.S. but lag well behind native-born Americans on factors such as poverty, health insurance coverage and homeownership.
The study, based on 2010 and 2011 census data, found that 43 percent of immigrants who have been in the U.S. at least 20 years were using welfare benefits, a rate that is nearly twice as high as native-born Americans and nearly 50 percent higher than recent immigrants.

Immigration disaster ping

Of the ones 57% who do better many get totally free college. I met a few here.

7 posted on 08/08/2012 1:47:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Years ago, before all this political correctness was applied to immigration and immigrants, the persons who sponsored an immigrant had to make a guarantee the proposed immigrant would not become a charge on the state, a euphemism for going on welfare. This system worked well until Ted Kennedy broke up all the rules and rewrote the immigration code back in those halcyon days of 1965.

The rewrite on the code opened the doors to letting in many more non-European minorities, and set the stage for the ending of the white majority in the United States. This was thought to be a “good thing” by the liberals of the time, as they already had managed to push through most of the “Great Society” program of LBJ, and they needed new bodies to make the program work.


8 posted on 08/08/2012 1:52:37 PM PDT by alloysteel (Voter suppression is needed now more than ever. Only, whom shall be suppressed?)
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To: sickoflibs
Immigration disaster ping

Please place me on this list.

Thanks!

9 posted on 08/08/2012 1:52:48 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I sponsored some of my wife’s relatives (she’s a citizen) to come here legally. It took 10+ years. I am legally responsible for keeping them over the poverty level as far as income until they become citizens or have worked 10 years. Yes, they can get some benefits, but I think that is state, not Fed.

That said, I bet they could get some bennies because the system is so screwed up.


10 posted on 08/08/2012 1:53:38 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Democrats are willing to let immigrants remain on welfare in exchange for their vote or just their signature on an absentee ballot. Obama recently said Texas would soon be a tossup state rather than a Red state. Guess why?
11 posted on 08/08/2012 1:59:31 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Romney commented on cultural differences between Palestinians and Israeli Jews - correctly. I wonder what the cultural differences are between immigrants who become Americans and those foreigners who are simply parasites.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 2:04:09 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: USMCPOP

My wife is a UK citizen. She was recruited to the US as a Professor at a US medical school (her employer sponsored her), and she does basic research in liver immunology. She has a PhD from King’s College in London and has earned a good salary since she came to the US. Still, she spent 6 years and $10,000+ in legal fees just to get her green card.

So why is becoming a citizen harder for her than for a deadbeat from Somalia?

I have friends from Nigeria who tell the same story - IF you’re an illiterate goat herder from the Muslim north, you get right in. BUT if you’re a Christian with good career skills from the south the US doesn’t want you.

Very strange.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 2:06:44 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

That’s not a bug, it’s a feature.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 2:06:44 PM PDT by PogySailor (Obama is a SCOAMF)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Immigrants lag behind native-born Americans on most measures of economic well-being....”

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Strangely enough, nothing is mentioned of the demographics of these immigrants.

All I know is that this honky immigrant from Europe and all his fellow crackers that arrived on that liberty ship in 1956 did very well.

All of us.


15 posted on 08/08/2012 2:09:53 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: LibLieSlayer
a kinder, gentler form of communism.

No kidding.

Quite a racket they've got going.

This turns on its head the much-touted liberal bs that immigrants just come here to do jobs Americans don't want to do.

Instead, they come here to force Americans to relinquish the fruits of THEIR hard work to put bread (and liquor, cigarettes, lottery tickets and tattoos) on the welchers' tables.

Obama buddy Deval Patrick says he isn't going to do anything that "makes vulnerable people beg for their benefits". So apparently tattoos and booze are entitlements taxpayers are, by default, forced to finance.

A defiant Gov. Deval Patrick finally signed a welfare reform bill into law yesterday — only to say he won’t enforce key parts of the measure, drawing the wrath of lawmakers working to crack down on widespread abuses of the system.

Patrick, in a letter to lawmakers, said it’s “not feasible” to ban EBT purchases of frills such as liquor, cigarettes, lottery tickets and tattoos — and that “this administration will not enforce what cannot be enforced with respect to the use of EBT cards."

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1061149101&cnum=1

Won't enforce a law HE doesn't like. Why does that sound familiar?

16 posted on 08/08/2012 2:15:17 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Must be me, but all the immigrants I know have engineering degrees and make much more than the national average.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 2:17:33 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: LucianOfSamasota
So why is becoming a citizen harder for her than for a deadbeat from Somalia?

Because she won't be joining the dependency class.

18 posted on 08/08/2012 2:19:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: LucianOfSamasota

If it were up to me, we would go back to the immigration policies we had in the 60s, before we started massive immigration to pay for Social Security. Now we can’t pay for the Social Security the Immigrants will get, not after paying for their welfare, their educations, their housing and medical expenses. All further immigration should be based entirely upon America’s best interest. Everyone else who just wants to come live here should have to show means of support, and post a bond that will cover their deportation, should they need our social services. There are plenty of other countries for people to immigrate to, and should we get four more years of Obama, there will be plenty of better countries.


19 posted on 08/08/2012 2:37:12 PM PDT by pallis
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“So why is becoming a citizen harder for her than for a deadbeat from Somalia?”

My wife is a British subject too. It was easier for me to become a legal resident of the UK then it would have been for her to become an American resident.
I’ve often told her that it would be better if she booked a flight to Mexico, then cross the border on foot right onto Americas red carpet.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 2:56:19 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
path? what the hell do you think they came here for??? WELFARE!!!
21 posted on 08/08/2012 3:09:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

solve the reduction in military /too much welfare in one fell swoop....
all welfare recipients must enlist and serve in military.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 3:21:48 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: USMCPOP

That 10 year sponsor rule has always been in effect. However, no one pays any attention to it. Way back when I was hired as an eligibility worker for our welfare dept and was doing I&R (intake and referral) when I had to process some legal immigrants and I asked about their sponsors. I was told....yeah that is the law but we don’t ask and don’t pay any attention to it.


23 posted on 08/08/2012 3:38:34 PM PDT by sheana
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To: nevermorelenore
i'd rather they bring back the old CCC...
24 posted on 08/08/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: BlatherNaut

Perfectly stated! obama does the exact same thing... they are all communists... McCarthy was 100% correct. You forgot about drugs... they buy a lot of illegal drugs to sell so that they can use... add that to all of the other perks of illegality.

LLS


25 posted on 08/08/2012 3:56:06 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“If you give them freebies...they will come.”


26 posted on 08/08/2012 4:11:19 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: nevermorelenore

I wouldn’t wish that on any DI.


27 posted on 08/08/2012 4:14:53 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The study presumes that this wasn't the immigrants' plan all along.

-PJ

28 posted on 08/08/2012 4:18:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Wow....this is disturbing

And, should make everyone really research the candidates. If a candidate is not for secure borders, deporting all illegals, and limiting immigration....they support amnesty AND bigger government


29 posted on 08/08/2012 6:41:20 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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To: LucianOfSamasota; Liz; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Immigration disaster ping
......
Please place me on this list. Thanks!

Ladies : Liz, auntB another freeper who see’s the light. Please add him/her to your (illegal) immigration lists.

Living in Maryland illegal immigration is a serious problem but not as big a problem as in the South Western states : NV(my relatives),AZ(SJB) , NM, CA (AuntB).

But I have seen massive legal immigration transform the east coast Maryland to NY and the result has not been positive. None of these groups, led by South Koreans, are voting against Democrats or Dem policies. Its been too many and too fast and too different for proper assimilation.

30 posted on 08/08/2012 8:42:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

this figure is just on the ones they can count.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 7:09:34 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: sickoflibs

” Of the ones 57% who do better many get totally free college. I met a few here. “

Sounds about right.


32 posted on 08/09/2012 11:08:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sheana

Thanks, I figured as much. Of course, I’m not going to tell my relatives anything about welfare. They either get with the program or go home.


33 posted on 08/09/2012 3:37:31 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the ping. I tried to post this report a few days ago, and FR wouldn’t post it. I didn’t bother to ask why.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 1:24:17 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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