Posted on 08/09/2012 5:55:30 PM PDT by Coleus
It is very brave. It is what is needed-—Art which evokes feelings and makes people actually think!
Art is what the Leftists have used for decades to change the hearts of the last few generations. Leftists remove the “thinking” so that you”feel” what they want you to— Mapplethorpe, and V. Monologues—it dehumanizes man—reduces them to sex parts— (like the Weimar Republic was famous for)-—it removes Reason and reduces man to base vulgar instincts destructive of civic virtue.
At least among the German princes we were pretty close in A.D. 1530. 21 of the 28 articles of the Augsburg Confession were on points of agreement, including justification, repentance, and the Eucharist.
There are detractors now on both sides but I believe that the signing of the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification was either the beginning of the end (or the end of the beginning) of the reformation.
Note the lower case "r".
OK, but consider this. Pro-abortion presidential candidates have been invited to this dinner for decades. It's a long tradition of having both presidential candidates show up and make a speech. Snubbing Obama on this will invite accusations of singling him out, and that singling out will be assumed to be motivated by racism. Preposterous in the context of the work of the Church, of course, but the media will beat that drum for several days. Nothing like using one of their favorite weapons to bash one of their favorite targets.
Better to have both Obama and Romney at the dinner, and allow Romney to upstage Obama by mentioning the rights of the unborn in a room full of Catholics. It was beautiful to watch the extended applause when George W. Bush did that in 2000, and left Al Gore to just stare at the table in front of him.
I only hope that my Bishop (DeLorenzo of Richmond Va) has the same idea, but I doubt he will say anything.
#1 -- there's more evil to Obamalamadingdong than his abortion stance -- most rank-n-file pewsitters understand this, even if the polled "catholics" don't
#2 -- the Church is legally (in court) against Obamalamadingdong's administration, IINM....
#3 -- the media will always be against the Church and in favor of whatever Demoncrat is anti-Catholic
#4 -- the bishops had Catholics praying for religious freedom, only to follow it up with.... Dolan's invite? Who is more important --- the MEDIA??? or pew-sitting Catholics?!?!?!
#5 -- Is the Church promoting Romney as the anti-abortion candidate? Really? REALLY?????????
Thought for ETERNAL LIFE.....
WE should do what “PLEASES GOD”
“NOT” what “PLEASES MAN!”
ABORTIONS OUT!
CONTRACEPTION OUT!
HOMOSEXUALS OUT!
SAME SEX MARRIAGE OUT!
EVIL (OBAMA) OUT!
“Learn English. Great language.”
Tell it to the poster.
A liberal doc signed by lib lutherans, in conflict with Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions. As the LCMS puts it, a Betrayal of the Gospel.
I would also like to see the USCCB make a formal announcement and put it in all the diocesan papers. I am pretty sure the lame stream media won't cover it.
“Catholic Voters Can’t Vote for a Candidate Who Stands for an Intrinsic Evil.”
Guess I won’t be able to vote for hussein or willard then. Darn. I’m heartbroken I tell ya.
Heartbroken.
Exhibit A:
A liberal doc signed by lib lutherans, in conflict with Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions. As the LCMS puts it, a Betrayal of the Gospel.
I sure I could dredge up some Tridentine Latin Catholics with equally vehement rehetoric.
Thirty Years War was the good old days, eh?
I am a detractor for sure, justification is a suitable doctrinal hill to stand upon. Far from a religious war, it is an acknowledgement that reducing the Gospel’s stance on justification for the sake of so-called ecumenism is not a worthwhile tradeoff. The elca is a poor example of a church, let alone a Lutheran one. Are you now NALC or LCMC? Do they subscribe to the JDDJ? Are they members of the LWF?
Thought for ETERNAL LIFE.....
WE should do what “PLEASES GOD”
“NOT” what “PLEASES MAN!”
ABORTIONS OUT!
CONTRACEPTION OUT!
HOMOSEXUALS OUT!
SAME SEX MARRIAGE OUT!
EVIL (OBAMA) OUT!
So that means Obamao and Mitt-Witt are both out with Catholics then?
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
I don't see how, nothing has changed for them.
Sadly, I think it’s too late. They should have been saying this for years.
ahhhh, I LOVE seeing the KofC!! My father was a 4th degree and I have his cape and chapeau......sniff.
“So that means Obamao and Mitt-Witt are both out with Catholics then?”
You’ll hear/read conflicting opinions, but in my humble opinion, yes. Supporting any politician who supports abortion, same sex “marriage,” euthenasia, contraception, sterilization is supporting a candidate who supports that which is intrinsically evil. A Catholic cannot do that without committing sin. Some will may say something about the lesser of two evils. And they may have some merit in their arguments. I cannot support willard in anything. By virtue of his own legislation in MA, “Romneycare,” he has supported many of the items I just listed above. Should he win, I truly believe he would make a show of diminishing Obamacare, but nothing more. His focus is not removing the evil patterned upon his own, but being elected President of the United States. There’s an important distinction there which cannot and should not be missed.
I hate it when the meaning of words gets obscured, tainted, reversed. (That is so "gay"!)
Anyway, I was just thinking this morning (yes, actually) about "The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?" I was thinking about what that means, long, wide, and deep.
Let's pray for this communion, eh?
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On a note of levity, the tagline:
I thought we Catholics were in the repentance and conversion business. No?
Mr. Romney says he had a change of heart regarding abortion. Is that not allowed? I've seen many previously pro-life politicians go pro-abort. We're not permitted to accept folks in the other direction?
Are you saying you don't believe his conversion? Well, I don't really blame you. Too much. I was certainly skeptical in 2008 when he made it known that he'd conveniently had such a change of heart toward the end of his otherwise all-abortion all-the-time term as governor.
There were folks who said, well, aren't you going to give the guy a chance? He says he's pro-life, now. Isn't a conversion, a change of heart sufficient?
And I said, it's just a little too convenient, the timing is just too close. I won't vote for him in 2008. But he'll be back. He'll run again for president. If he consistently and steadily maintains an overall pro-life attitude, if he continues to campaign as a pro-lifer, I'll revisit the question.
So, here we are four years later. And he HAS campaigned consistently as a pro-lifer. Is he a perfect pro-lifer? Not in my book. But the Church has taught us that we may choose candidates who are more pro-life than the other guy, that we may not get the perfectly-pro-life candidate, but that someone who is mostly pro-life is certainly a better bet than someone who is entirely pro-death. The Church has rejected the perfection-or-bust approach to these issues. One may, in good conscience, vote for a candidate who runs on a platform to legally restrict abortion more than it is, to reduce government support for abortion more than it is, and especially more than the other guy.
It is possible that Gov. Romney is a fake pro-lifer. It is also possible that he's not particularly persuaded in his heart of hearts, but will mostly govern in a way that promotes the cause of life and family, at least more than the exemplar of abortion, death and destruction of family, Obama.
It is definite, it is certain, that no one will govern in a worse way toward the questions of life and family than Obama.
“’So that means Obamao and Mitt-Witt are both out with Catholics then?’
“You’ll hear/read conflicting opinions, but in my humble opinion, yes.”
Your analysis is entirely wrong.
A Catholic may vote, in good conscience, for Mitt Romney, even if he merely believes that it is possible that Gov. Romney is at least moderately more pro-life and pro-family than Obama.
Someone who is possibly better on the issues of life and family is superior to someone who is definitely worse.
That said, for folks who don't want to vote for Gov. Romney because they still don't believe, that's a reasonable position. But it is far from the only legitimate Catholic position, and is perhaps the less rational position that Catholics should take.
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