When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over

The Daily Reckoning ^ | 8-13-2012 | Jim Karger

[Noumenon]

It’s just amazing what root level access and few simple commands can achieve.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yep. We built it. Therefore, we know where the backdoor and spare key are.

Ain’t no such thang as “secure.”

[BuckeyeTexan]

Yep. We built it. Therefore, we know where the backdoor and spare key are.

Ain’t no such thang as “secure.”

[Robert Teesdale]

Break down the door, trash the house, kill the dog, etc. If they find any guns or ammo, you will be jailed for having an illegal arsenal. Even if that is untrue, it will financially break you to prove it. It costs them nothing. They have lawyers on staff to handle these things.

In other words, they will take a basically peaceful American, and turn him into an enraged and motivated human being with very little left to lose, and a huge grievance to act upon.

Great plan. Love it. Shows every sign of working out well for them.

[NFHale]

“...the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality...”

Kind of puts the fine point on it, doesn’t it...

[Robert Teesdale]

Magical thinking is pretty commonplace. Still doesn’t work, though. Consequences are inevitable, and often unintended.

[Robert Teesdale]

They will have the ability to deploy clouds of gases which make you so nauseous you will be incapable of functioning, or high pitch sounds that will cause such pain you won't be able to respond, or adhesive materials which will totally disable you. “Safe” handguns controlled by a computer chip? These too can be disabled from a distance with the proper equipment.

Quite correct.

On the other hand, there is always a "shh, Darling, just getting a glass of water" to a sleepy and satiated sexual partner and coming back with a brutally swung hammer in the dark instead.

Don't underestimate human beings.

[DocRock]

In my opinion the most commonly misquoted Scripture is “Money is the root of all evil”, and running a close second is my tagline.

[CodeToad]

That’s kind of old and overused. Try something original.

[Tallguy]

There is some evidence that the “Special Units” trailed the Wehrmacht into Poland and the Baltic countries suffered a crisis in morale after a period. Seems like there’s a limit to the atrocities that men who view themselves as soldiers will put up with. Even if the subjects of those atrocities are considered ‘enemies’ and ‘sub-human’.

[Robert Teesdale]

As programmers, we control their software. As DBAs, we control their data. As systems administrators, we control their servers. They do nothing unless we allow it. They are deaf, dumb, and blind without us.

And it only takes one of us to betray the entire intelligence apparatus from a technology standpoint.

Without inflating numbers, I will safely bet that there is more than one well-placed patriot in a useful position.

[Tallguy]

A scoped deer rifle as well. Any gun will get you a better gun.

In many cases the deer rifle will be your more effective weapon (relative to an AR-15). Range, accuracy and even the terminal-effects on the 'target' would all be superior. The drawback is, of course, rate-of-fire and maintaining a target picture.

BTW, when I mentioned effect on target I am assuming that we're dealing with troops clad in body armor & kevlar.

[NFHale]

“..some evidence that the “Special Units” trailed the Wehrmacht into Poland...”

The SS Einsatzgruppen were killers, pure and simple. Extermination squads sent to denude the area of the Slavic Untermenschen (subhumans).

Whatever crisis of morale they may or may not have had, it didn’t stop them from blowing peoples’ heads open, bayoneting children, gassing and burning people alive so they could create Lebensraum (living space) for future Teutonic settlement.

The Wermacht, were they true patriots for their nation and true soldiers, should have slaughtered the Einsatzgruppen, SS units, and Gestapo at very opportunity and taken their country back. They outnumbered them by a large majority. But they did nothing except the bidding of their National Socialist masters as well.

Nuremberg set a precedent - “just following orders” doesn’t spare you from the hangman’s noose, nor the firing squad. Wermacht officers and Landsers went to the gallows as well as the SS.

I do understand your point, but I think once the other side sets this insanity off, there’ll be no stopping it until one side or the other is left standing.

The same ideology that drove those Einsatzgruppen is alive and well in the modern left today. They can call it whatever euphemism they want, but it’s the same thing.

They mean to be masters, one way or the other.

[Mat_Helm]

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk!

[BuckeyeTexan]

Agreed. Communication today has far more components than “they” could ever hope to control. They might hinder communication for a short while, but we’d find a way around it. We always do.

[Robert Teesdale]

And this piece IS pure agitprop; it was written to elicit exactly the reaction it’s getting out here, right now. Guarantee we have the other side trolling this thread, right now, taking and making notes.

Both points are true. The original piece reads like the whining taunt of an unwelcome child who is running home from a neighborhood game after being picked last at stickball.

With respect to the unsympathetic lurkers... why, that's positive. Based on comparative reply count for this thread, it's a reasonably interesting issue for our indigenous posting population, and there's not a lot of dissent on ideological position. Extrapolate that to the greater FR population, and thence to red states, and you get the sense that automatic success assumptions might be served by revisitation of expectations by the opposition.

In other words, "this is a really bad idea".

[zeugma]

I’d say I was in the same ballpark.

[M Kehoe]

Asymmetrical warfare Mr. Karger, asymmetrical warfare.

Oh, and for the record, I don't own any weapons.

5.56mm

[BuckeyeTexan]

Exactly.

[papertyger]

In other words, they will take a basically peaceful American, and turn him into an enraged and motivated human being with very little left to lose, and a huge grievance to act upon. Great plan. Love it. Shows every sign of working out well for them.

Precisely!

The only reason the left has gotten as far as it has is because they have managed to AVOID doing exactly that thing, though I think divorce and custody law has come dangerously close in some cases.