Posted on 08/15/2012 12:58:29 PM PDT by marktwain
Jerry Conrady and his wife have been fighting to be able to continue to safely shoot on their own rural property. This is their story in their own words, why it should matter to you, and how you can help.
Lincoln County is attacking Oregon residents rights to shoot on private property. If Lincoln County wins the repercussions for shooters in the State of Oregon will be staggering. Every county will be able to use the following cases as precedent to require anyone on private property to obtain a condition use permit before discharging a firearm. Your support is needed.
Jerry Conrady and his wife own 120 acres in rural Lincoln County. Mr. Conrady is a State certified teacher, has a degree in Gunsmithing from Lassen College and is an Eagle Scout. Mr. Conradys wife is an estate paralegal and writer. Neither have any form of criminal record. Mr Conrady gives out free gun locks at Portland gun shows.
Currently the Oregon Revised Statute allows for landowners and their guests to discharge firearms outdoors on private property without any permits. The Conradys and their guests have been doing so since they purchased the property in 2002 with no complaints or negative comments from anyone. In 2008 Mr. Conrady proposed building an indoor range in the center of his property. A small group of their neighbors, backed by someone with a good deal of money is now attempting to sue the Conradys into poverty and submission.
There are currently two cases pending: Case number 111143 in which, after the County threatened to sue them if they didnt stop shooting on their property the Conradys filed a suit asking a Judge to read and interpret the law. Instead of ruling on the law in question, the Judge determined that the County has a right to regulate shooting ranges. The County has taken that to mean that anywhere an individual discharges a firearm is then considered a range and thus they have the right to regulate the discharge of firearms on private property and that anyone who wishes to do so must apply for a conditional use permit. This case is currently in the Appeals Court.
Case number 112006 in which 5 of the Conradys neighbors are suing them for an abatement of a nuisance. Even though the Oregon Revised Statute says that noise from firearms cannot be regulated and does not fall under the nuisance statutes, the same Judge is allowing the case to go through and Lincoln County has jumped on board with the Plaintiffs. The remedy theyre seeking? First they want warrantless search and seizure. They want to be able to enter the Conradys property at any time for any reason and arrest anyone suspected of shooting, whether a firearm is present or not. Keep in mind that the Conradys are law abiding citizens who do not currently have nor have ever had a criminal record. They hold concealed weapons permits in multiple states and Mr. Conrady holds an FFL. If they were criminals they would never have passed the checks that allow them these privileges. The Plaintiffs also want the house that the Conradys are building on their property with approved permits removed, as well as their well and septic and anything else the County deems an improvement related to a shooting range. There are no improvements as no range was ever built as the County has been told multiple times. This case will be heard November 6th.
The Conradys dont shoot 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They try to be respectful of their neighbors including voluntarily reducing their shooting hours. In addition, they are not the only people in the area who shoot. Several neighbors on Mr. Conradys property line discharge firearms on their property whenever they want, yet is it only the Conradys who are being sued.
Oregon Revised Statutes 166.170, 171 and 176 state that NO conditional use permit is necessary for a landowner and guests to discharge firearms on private property. In fact, Counties cannot restrict the discharge of firearms on private property in rural unincorperated areas. Lincoln County is attempting to get around this statute by claiming the Conradys were running a shooting range and that anywhere a firearm in discharged is a shooting range, thus they have the right to regulate all shooting. They have yet to define the difference between a commercial shooting range, private shooting range on private property or a landowner and guests discharging firearms on private property. The Conradys never ran a range. They created a non-profit and did what was necessary to prepare to apply for a conditional use permit to build a range. They sent letters and emails and left phone messages for the County asking for guidance which never came. Mr. Conrady had to finally send a letter to the County Commissioners before the county attorney finally responded with a contradictory and confusing letter that baffled every attorney the Conradys spoke with and left them wide open to litigation.
The Conradys have been fighting this battle for 4 years now and its taken a dramatic personal and financial strain on them. They are no longer fighting for just their rights but the rights of every shooter in the State of Oregon. If they lose, anyone who wants to set up a target or shoot at a can will have to have permission to do so first. Its once again time to show that shooters will not be bullied.
If youre interested in supporting the Conradys and your rights call the Lincoln County Commissioners and voice your opinion at 541-265-4176 or write or email them. Anyone who would like to assist with their defense fund may do so as follows: MAKE CHECKS TO: GERALD CONRADY TRUST ACCOUNT Send to: Gerald Conrady Trust Care of Attorney Russell L. Baldwin P.O. Box 1242 Lincoln City, OR 97367
You might have overlooked the first sentence from the third paragraph: "Jerry Conrady and his wife own 120 acres in rural Lincoln County." Cities prohibit discharging firearms for reasons of public safety, where people live close together. There is no such justification for prohibition on large rural tracts.
Beg to disagree it is not about a city regulating a business it is a county govt. f*cking with someone . Their is something seriously rotten in Oregon .
Who is financing the original lawsuit & how are they connected with the county attorney & county board, when you find the answers to these questions you will know who the real crooks are.
Me, I’d stay out of Lincoln County if I was hunting.
ALL gun laws are unconstitutional and should be resisted.
Private property rights should be inviolate.
To Hades with petty local officiating by petty Neighborhood Nazis.
This regulatory nonsense is not what the Founding Fathers envisioned.
A hose or a Daisy Red Ryder will do nicely....
.....just be careful that you don’t shoot your eye out, Kid....
I called and spoke with the woman who was handling the case. She insists in no way was there ever a question about the right of the residents to shoot on their own land. The issue arose over the desire to place a training facility there for the public. (I told her I still didn’t see the problem...)
I am 100% sure these people can hunt and do other gun related activities on their land that are of a private nature.
The issue here is whether they can start a commercial gun range business on land that is presumably zoned for residential and or agricultural purposes.
Regulations are there to protect people (in this case the neighbors). I am 100% sure you don't want your neighbor turning his home into an abortion clinic, trailer park, a super walmart or a metal smelting factory.
My dream property would be Hickok45’s.
In PA you can shot on your property if you have a constructed capture box or some kind of structure that will prevent the bullet from traveling 15 feet past the target. The only entity that can pass gun regulations is the state government, not local communities.
His gun safe must be a walk in job ... and he gets loaners regularly, too. He has a shed set up for reloading, and a range that has the most fun type targets, the ones that ring when you hit them. I’d settle for just the gong!
You will find that a paintball gun works very well, also. If you inject a little hot pepper sauce into the balls, the rascals get the message very quickly and avoid your property.
Why do you keep insisting that they are running a shooting “business,” or a “commercial shooting range?
The full article indicates in fact the complete opposite.
The fluorescent paintball approach will get rid of them via predators which will pick out the flashy ones. Those splotches of paint make great targets in dim light ...
Good work. Who did you talk to, and who was she representing? The critical question here seems to be the assertion that:
"The County has taken that to mean that anywhere an individual discharges a firearm is then considered a range and thus they have the right to regulate the discharge of firearms on private property and that anyone who wishes to do so must apply for a conditional use permit."
This should be a matter of fact, that can be backed up with documents.
see post 28
Exactly as I suspected. Sometimes you have to read between the lines on articles like this.
Rural 180 acres? Could be a county issue, but then again we send swat teams out to shut down lemonade stands.
A Texan and a Freeper don't think 180 acres is enough room for a shooter, my, my.
I used to shoot in my back yard in town, now look what has become of us.
What are you talking about?
A guy wants to put an indoor shooting range on his property, which presumably would be quieter than the outside shooting they are doing now.
Where is the commercial or business activity in this?
So some few of his neighbors accuse him of wanting to build “a training facility” on his 120-acre property. Is a big corral a “training facility” for riders and horses? Is a big grill a “training facility” for chefs and restauranteurs? Is a multi-pit horseshoe playing area some kind of ominous “training facility” for shoe pitchers?
Exactly as you “suspected,” hey?
You sound like you would fit in perfectly in Portland and Salem, pal.
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