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Activists Warn of Possible Dangers of Deferred Action in Video
Hispanically speaking news ^ | Aug. 15, 2012 | Hispanically Speaking News

Posted on 08/16/2012 12:31:01 PM PDT by AuntB

A group of pro-immigrant activists in Chicago on Tuesday released an informational video warning about the possible dangers of deferred action, which on Wednesday will begin to register undocumented young people who want to try and postpone deportation.

The video, “Defer the Bulls—t,” may be seen online at www.moratoriumondeportations.org and is an effort to resist the government’s alleged disinformation campaign about the program.

“While some youth may have a chance at relief, Deferred Action is at best insufficient, and at worst misleading, dangerous and deliberately deceptive,” said Jose Herrera of the Moratorium on Deportations Campaign on Tuesday.

Some 20 members of various groups gathered in front of Barack Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago to denounce the president for “using immigrants as guinea pigs for his own political gains.”

The activists also criticized Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) and the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, who on Wednesday in Chicago will hold a huge registration drive for youths hoping to take advantage of deferred action to postpone deportation.

Herrera said that in the promotional activities for the event the possible - that is, non-guaranteed - postponement of deportations in accord with deferred action is erroneously linked with the DREAM Act, which remains stalled in Congress.

The deferred action policy “is not a law, it does not have the protection of a law,” he said.

According to the activists, the documents released by the Department of Homeland Security clearly state that even young people who fulfill the requirements for deferred action can be rejected and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for deportation, at the discretion of the government.

ICIRR said that at its event on Wednesday, which will be attended by Gutierrez, Sen. Richard Durbin and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, undocumented youths will be encouraged to request deferred action but also to seek legal assistance regarding their own particular immigration situation.

Meanwhile, Gutierrez’s press spokesman, Douglas Rivlin, said that the congressman wants young people to attend the event to sign up for deferred action and to consult experts about it.

The deferred action program is open to undocumented immigrants 30 years old and younger who were brought to the United States before the age of 16.

Applicants will need five years of continuous residence in the country, a high school diploma or GED, and proof of current or previous military service or college enrollment.

Those seeking deferred action will also have to submit fingerprints and other biometric data and undergo an extensive background check, as well as pay a fee of $465.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; amensty; amnesty; chicago; douglasrivlin; dreamact; illegalaliens; illinois; laraza; luisgutierrez; rahmemanuel; richarddurbin; stillcomplaining; uscis
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It seems no matter what is given to these illegal aliens and their pushers, nothing is enough!

Unintended consequences?? Well, whatever it takes to tick them off at Obama.

1 posted on 08/16/2012 12:31:09 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: Clintonfatigued; Liz; sickoflibs; HiJinx; bcsco; All

“Some 20 members of various groups gathered in front of Barack Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago to denounce the president for “using immigrants as guinea pigs for his own political gains.”

YEP!

Ping ‘em, please.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 12:33:33 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Amazing. For a given person to emigrate to any of say 25 nations that one might conceivably want to emigrate to, the potential emigree typically needs $200K of liquid assets they are willing to bring with them, some sort of sponsorship in terms of family they will stay with, or some kind of written job offer, or all those things.

These folks, they have to pay $500 to get into the greatest country in the history of mankind and out of some of crappiest dead-end POS countries on earth and they’re bitching and moaning about it. To me, this is really rubbing salt in the wound of having scoffed at our system of laws in the first place. What a pain in the a**.

I predict these will make simply wonderful, exemplary citizens. Errr, not citizens; voters. Hospital patients. Demanders of free everything.


3 posted on 08/16/2012 12:43:49 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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RE :”Those seeking deferred action will also have to submit fingerprints and other biometric data and undergo an extensive background check, as well as pay a fee of $465

AND could still be deported after Obama leaves office even if they are accepted by the Obama immigration department to stay. Legally they are still (immigration) lawbreakers and signing up here is an admission of it.

Now a anti-Obama political group could have some fun with this running commercials in Hispanic areas warning illegals that this is a trap Obama is setting for Hispanics.

Here in Maryland obama's buddy O Malley proposed a special drivers licence for illegals that couldnt be used as a Federal ID to get around the Real ID law to let illegals drive legally here . It's pretty funny if you think about it, a special ID for illegals.

4 posted on 08/16/2012 12:45:40 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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And another thing..

The agency in charge of processing/approving these aliens is USCIS. The most dysfunctional outfit EVER. They will either lose the apps or rubber stamp them all.

“A Day in the Life of USCIS”- (Is this any way to protect our nation?)

Letter from Mike Cutler, former INS agent who testifies before congress and appears on various news programs:

I just came across the item I have attached below when I reviewed the latest edition of USCIS Today. The date of this edition was April 6, 2006. Clearly the folks who work for USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) the division of the Department of Homeland Security that adjudicates applications for a wide array of immigration benefits have their work cut out for them.

Last month the GAO issued a report of their findings concerning the critical issue of immigration benefit fraud. While the use of the term “critical” has been used often to describe a variety of issues of varying significance, it is entirely appropriate to consider immigration benefit fraud to indeed, be a critical issue. It is through benefit fraud that two-thirds of the terrorists who have been identified as operating within our nation up to the attacks of September 11, 2001 utilized immigration benefit fraud to either enter the United States or embed themselves in the United States so that they could hide in plain sight as they prepared to attempt to attack our nation and our people. The GAO report can be found at: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06259.pdf

The document shows just how much work is being done at this point in time, prior to the implementation of any guest worker amnesty program. There is still a significant backlog and with the pressure on to process as many applications as possible, quality control is the casualty of this process at USCIS. There is no way that the beleaguered employees of USCIS can deal with a guest worker amnesty program that would result in millions upon millions of additional applications being dumped into the over worked system [snip]

http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/DayinLife_050629.pdf (click here to see orignial document)

Some of the DAILY work of USIS according to their own document:

* Conduct 135,000 national security background checks

* process 30,000 applications for immigrant benefits

* Issue 7,000 permanent resident cards (green cards -PER DAY)

* Welcome 2100 new citizens.

* Welcome 3500 new permanent residents.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/04/day-in-life-of-uscis-is-this-any-way.html


5 posted on 08/16/2012 12:47:28 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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Now a anti-Obama political group could have some fun with this running commercials in Hispanic areas warning illegals that this is a trap Obama is setting for Hispanics.


6 posted on 08/16/2012 12:53:16 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AuntB

To Quote Ronald Reagan, “The nine most dangerous words in the United States are “I’m from the Government and I’m here to help!””.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 12:57:06 PM PDT by timlilje
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To: AuntB

This move could backfire on the President. The people affected are likely to realize that to take advantage of the deferral (essentially a grace period during which they won’t be deported), they have to “out” themselves to agents of the federal government.

And they are to do this with no guarantee that hey will actually get a deferral, or that in January 2013 the deferrals won’t be reversed by another Executive Order (leaving the federal government with both their names and the obligation to deport them).

When our Hispanic citizens figure out what a thin reed President Obama has extended to young illegals, they could become cynical enough to withhold electoral support, or even switch their support to Romney if Romney finds some way to rationally address the issue. After all, President Obama could have attempted to pass a law granting these illegals citizenship when he had full control of Congress, but he didn’t do that.

Instead, he’s now pandering for the Hispanic vote by asking young illegals to reveal themselves to the government, but he has no way to assure them that they won’t be putting themselves at risk of eventual deportation, since he chose the route of going with an Executive Order, rather than doing it by law.

Romney’s got to be careful here, but he could state that he would seek citizenship for a certain subset of the people affected and would ask Congress to pass a law to that effect if elected, and then point out that Obama never took that route. He could also ask them to delay coming out until the law was passed so that they could be certain that they wouldn’t instead be deported.

If the law failed to pass, or if certain individuals weren’t covered by it, they could remain in their current status of being illegal, but here nonetheless. They might appreciate Romney addressing their plight, a plight caused directly by Obama’s Executive Order.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 12:57:43 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; janetgreen; DoughtyOne; SierraWasp; Jim Robinson

“To me, this is really rubbing salt in the wound of having scoffed at our system of laws in the first place. “

And by golly, if Obama can do it, so can Jerry Brown! We have NO representation! But illegal aliens do!

Today, in the Oakland Tribune
California will issue driver’s licenses to hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants once the Obama administration grants them work permits, the state Department of Motor Vehicles says.

The state’s decision is the opposite from Arizona’s, where Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Wednesday afternoon signed an executive order outlawing driver’s licenses for anyone who benefits from the new federal deportation relief.

One legislator said most Californians oppose licensing illegal immigrants and predicted renewed debate over the issue.

The Obama administration left it up to the states to decide if they will issue driver’s licenses to the young people brought to the country illegally as children but now eligible for temporary work permits.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_21327329/young-illegal-immigrants-will-be-eligible-california-drivers?source=rss


9 posted on 08/16/2012 1:00:47 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Cletus.D.Yokel; PJ-Comix

Wife & I went to drop off some mail at the post office on the way to Wal-Mart around 1 pm. Coming out of the alley behind the fire dept downtown, catty corner across the street sits a very big Dpt. of Homeland Security bus. Now, our little town is having an annual festival this weekend, with carnival rides littering a couple intersections, and this bus sits in a lot adjacent to the rides.

I don’t see what it would have to do with the carnival, but I wonder if they plan to take applications for amnesty from our local immigrants, using the carnival weekend as a draw. Hmmmmmmmm.


10 posted on 08/16/2012 1:07:30 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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Whatever the ramifications of this illegal move by Obama, one thing is for sure....USCIS will make a giant fiasco out of it!

GAO Report Indicates Up to 30,000 Citizenship Applications Processed Without Consulation of Important Background Materials
Tuesday, November 28, 2006 Senators Chuck Grassley and Susan Collins today released a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report that says 111,000 alien files (A-files) were missing in 14 United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) offices. The report also says that as many as 30,000 immigrants’ applications to become U.S. citizens were processed despite the missing files. USCIS is responsible for processing noncitizens’ applications to live or work in the U.S., either permanently or on a temporary basis, or to become a U.S. citizen..snip

http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/minority-media/gao-report-indicates-up-to-30-000-citizenship-applications-processed-without-consulation-of-important-background-materials


11 posted on 08/16/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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>>Now a anti-Obama political group could have some fun with this running commercials in Hispanic areas warning illegals that this is a trap Obama is setting for Hispanics.<<

Why not? You know the Dems would run an ad if the shoe were on the other foot, even if it were a complete falsehood. (See Medicare ads for examples.)

And this one has the added element that it could even be true. It could be a trap. Would any thinking person give their name to the federal government as an illegal, without a guarantee of citizenship? This is just a deferred deportment, emphasis on “deferred,” with an even bigger emphasis on “DEPORTMENT.”

Romney, himself, or Ryan, could cut an ad warning Hispanic families here legally to advise the illegal youngsters among their numbers to not take a chance on the deferral working out. He could promise that he would, instead, call for a law to be passed when he’s elected, a law that would provide them a clear path to citizenship without having to risk deportment, something that Obama has blatantly failed to do during his term of office, even when he had clear majorities of both houses of Congress.

I honestly think there’s hay to be made here, and that this entire pandering exercise could backfire on Obama if it’s handled right by Romney, Ryan, and the GOP.

In the meantime, an unrelated SuperPac cut the warning ad. Can’t hurt. Might even help the GOP if it’s done right.


12 posted on 08/16/2012 1:10:22 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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“Here in Maryland obama’s buddy O Malley proposed a special drivers licence for illegals that couldnt be used as a Federal ID to get around the Real ID law to let illegals drive legally here . It’s pretty funny if you think about it, a special ID for illegals.”

See post #9


13 posted on 08/16/2012 1:13:32 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Some 20 members of various groups gathered in front of Barack Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago to denounce the president for “using immigrants as guinea pigs for his own political gains.”

Hispandering backfiring? Popcorn and soda anyone?

14 posted on 08/16/2012 1:13:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Now a anti-Obama political group could have some fun with this running commercials in Hispanic areas warning illegals that this is a trap Obama is setting for Hispanics.<<
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Why not? You know the Dems would run an ad if the shoe were on the other foot, even if it were a complete falsehood. (See Medicare ads for examples.)

I am saying that an anti-Obama independent group do this, The Republicans doing this could backfire on them.

Romney, himself, or Ryan, could cut an ad warning Hispanic families here legally to advise the illegal youngsters among their numbers to not take a chance on the deferral working out. He could promise that he would, instead, call for a law to be passed when he’s elected, a law that would provide them a clear path to citizenship without having to risk deportment,..

I definitely don't like that idea.
Romney was the most anti-amnesty candidate in the primary, Him flipping that big now would keep many Republicans home on election day.

15 posted on 08/16/2012 1:18:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I still want some talking head to bring this up about Harry Reid!

Harry Reid: illegal aliens “free loaders and scam artists”

OH! THE IRONY!
...

“Reid, now an impassioned champion of amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens in America, once called illegal aliens “free loaders and scam artists” which he proposed to deal with in his Immigration Stabilization Act in the United States Senate in 1993.
That proposed legislation was introduced to the floor of the US Senate with the following press release, in part, issued by Reid’s office on August 5, 1993.
“In response to increased terrorism and abuse of social programs by aliens, (I) today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in Congress. Currently, an alien living illegally in the United States often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care, and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country.”
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Harry+Reid


16 posted on 08/16/2012 1:19:22 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: bcsco

“I don’t see what it would have to do with the carnival, but I wonder if they plan to take applications for amnesty from our local immigrants, using the carnival weekend as a draw. Hmmmmmmmm.”

You’re likely correct. Here in So. Oregon, they use any event, excuse to drag out the bus that hands out Mexican Matricular cards.


17 posted on 08/16/2012 1:22:03 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

And directly from there, using Motor Voter Laws, to being voters. (I know I didn’t have to mention that)


18 posted on 08/16/2012 1:23:10 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: AuntB; Attention Surplus Disorder; janetgreen; DoughtyOne; SierraWasp
RE :”Today, in the Oakland Tribune
California will issue driver’s licenses to hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants once the Obama administration grants them work permits, the state Department of Motor Vehicles says

It's up to the Federal government to enforce RealID.

Documentation required before issuing a license or ID cardBefore a card can be issued, the applicant must provide the following documentation:[20]
A photo ID, or a non-photo ID that includes full legal name and birthdate.
Documentation of birth date.
Documentation of legal status and Social Security number
Documentation showing name and principal residence address.
Digital images of each identity document will be stored in each state DMV database
REAL ID Act

19 posted on 08/16/2012 1:26:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“And directly from there, using Motor Voter Laws, to being voters. (I know I didn’t have to mention that)”

Keep mentioning it, sooner or later someone might listen!


20 posted on 08/16/2012 1:28:35 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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