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Progressive insurance on defense after court case
AP via SFGate ^ | 8/16/12 | MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press

Posted on 08/16/2012 11:53:15 PM PDT by SmithL

McLEAN, Va. (AP) — The Progressive Corp. insurance group is defending itself against an onslaught of negative publicity after it tried to avoid paying $75,000 to the family of a client killed in a car crash and tried to blame the wreck on her.

The criticism began Monday with a blog post from 33-year-old Matt Fisher of Brooklyn, whose sister Kaitlynn Fisher had Progressive insurance and was killed in a June 2010 car crash in Baltimore. In order to avoid the payout to Kaitlynn Fisher's family, Progressive interjected itself into a lawsuit the Fisher family filed against the other driver.

Last week, a jury found the other driver negligent, despite Progressive's efforts to persuade the jury otherwise.

Matt Fisher said Thursday that the deluge of online support his family has received is gratifying. The backlash against Progressive was strong enough that the Ohio-based company felt compelled to issue a public statement on the case. The statement denied Progressive was representing the driver who was ultimately found negligent. And it prompted even further backlash because it failed to acknowledge that, as a practical matter, Progressive's lawyer was indeed working in court as a third party to combat the Fisher family's claims.

While Fisher didn't quite anticipate the wave of support he received, he was sure others who learned about the case would be as shocked as he was that his sister's own insurance company was going to such lengths to cast the blame on her for the accident.

The Fisher family's lawyer, Annapolis, Md.-based attorney Allen Cohen, said it is technically true that Progressive was not representing the driver who caused the crash. During the trial, though, Progressive's attorney coordinated with the defense and put on witnesses who tried to undermine Kaitlynn Fisher's case, Cohen said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: insurance; progressive

1 posted on 08/16/2012 11:53:24 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Progressive’s leader is a big donor to Obama, in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. Believe his name is Lewis.

Let the bastard pay for “tortious interference” in this case.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 11:59:33 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SmithL

Progressive’s leader is a big donor to Obama, in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. Believe his name is Lewis.

Let the bastard pay for “tortious interference” in this case.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 12:00:24 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SmithL

4 posted on 08/17/2012 12:19:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Old Sarge

uh oh. flobot’s not working.


5 posted on 08/17/2012 12:24:56 AM PDT by NostraDanUS
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Yep a big lefty, hence the name PROGRESSIVE.
6 posted on 08/17/2012 12:32:16 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Hence, the word ‘PROGRESSIVE’ as the company’s name. No thanks. I’ve known for a long time the company owner is an obama ass-kisser.

I don’t go with All-State either as they have a lot of fudgepacker poster ads here in the West Hollywood corridor.


7 posted on 08/17/2012 12:36:24 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: SmithL

State Farm did the exact same thing to me 15 years ago.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 1:53:01 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: snuffy smiff
State Farm did the exact same thing to me 15 years ago.

Do you care to elaborate? How did it turn out?

9 posted on 08/17/2012 3:01:05 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

>> Progressive’s leader is a big donor to Obama

Exactly the reason why I will never, ever patronize the company.

Stupid not to settle this case, but I stopped reading after $75k.


10 posted on 08/17/2012 3:06:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SmithL

Progressive’s founder is a big lib!


11 posted on 08/17/2012 3:44:13 AM PDT by conservativesister
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To: Old Sarge

Why would anyone buy insurance from this moronic woman?


12 posted on 08/17/2012 3:59:53 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: SmithL

Insurance is often legalized, if not mandatory, theft.

What other business can extract significant sums of money from its clients with the intention of pulling the rug from under their feet during a crisis?


13 posted on 08/17/2012 4:17:50 AM PDT by relictele
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To: max americana
All the advertisements but one are dedicated to fudgepacking in West Hollywood ~ you know that.

We were out there a couple of years ago checking out the UCLA art school campus and stopped at a BF kinda' in between the main campus, Beverly Hills and that studio ~ roughly where all the street numbers going North start over but the street names don't.

The MS13 gang had everything covered ~ their logo and a threat in Spanish was CARVED into the bottoms of all the toilets ~ INSIDE.

Made you feel safe to be in a place where you knew they weren't all checking out your bottom!

14 posted on 08/17/2012 4:29:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

NOT BF, but BK ~ Burger King ~ actually one of the better operations that chain has ~ open 24 hours.


15 posted on 08/17/2012 4:30:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SmithL

Progressive put up a lot of resistance to paying to fix my car. I’m very aggressive in situations like that and they paid eventually but someone that is timid would have had a much harder time.

If you get hit by someone that has Progressive Insurance, be ready to play tough with them.


16 posted on 08/17/2012 4:38:44 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SmithL

In the current Progressive commercial, the Flobot is getting the attention and taking customers from Flo. Flo sidles over the Flobot and pats it on the back. The back pat is actually the extraction of a circuit board that disables the Flobot.

This is the typical union mentality to sabotage that which threatens. To sabotage and destroy company property is ok...... that is the message of the ad and the union mantra.

Progressive Insurance should be run off to France where they appreciate such behavior.

Meanwhile, GEICO is poking fun at wacko lefties. A man with a sweater tied around his shoulders is at a farmers market. He asks the farmer “what is the carbon foot print of the cauliflower?” Before the answer, Gallagher comes running up with a Nancy Pelosi sized gavel and beats up on watermelons. The melons fly all over and are revealed to be green on the outside and red on the inside.


17 posted on 08/17/2012 4:41:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: SmithL

I live in Maryland but don’t understand the case. Did both drivers have Progressive Insurance? Why would Progressive help the other driver?


18 posted on 08/17/2012 4:46:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: All

So a big corporation is trying to hose the little guy.. but since this guy pays tribute to herr Obama, it’s all good.


19 posted on 08/17/2012 4:47:34 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: sickoflibs
“Why would Progressive help the other driver?”

The other driver had little or no insurance. Kaitlynn Fisher's policy with Progressive included uninsured/under-insured motorist protection, so Progressive was obligated to pay the difference.

The amount they were obligated to pay the Fisher family was a paltry $75,000. The instead tried to get the Fisher family to settle for 1/3. Then they helped represent the other driver in court to try to get the blame for the accident placed on Fisher which would release their obligation to pay.

They lost in court, and hopefully will lose many customers as well.

20 posted on 08/17/2012 5:07:03 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: sickoflibs

The woman (sister/daughter) that was killed had progressive insurance. The man that was at fault had another insurance company, but he was under insured. His insurance paid out, but the family then went after Progressive for their sister/daughters extra insurance for under insured motorists of which she paid for.

Progressive then brought them to court even though the other guy was already deemed at fault. They had the faulted driver at their table and tried to convince the court that the deceased was at least a little at fault so that they did not have to pay out.

Maryland has a law that if the insurance company can prove that the insurer was at fault by at least 1%, then the insurance company does not have to pay out. Ridiculous!

Anyway, it made the family feel like their sister/daughters insurance company was siding with the other driver. I don’t blame them at all!


21 posted on 08/17/2012 5:10:06 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Max_850; jcsjcm

Thanks, that makes sense.
yes, Maryland forces us to pay for insurance to cover ourselves if we are hit by an uninsured driver. Unfortunately that is routine here in Maryland especially since they went out of their way to give drivers licences to illegals so many years.

When I first moved here from out of state finding and picking an insurance company was a challenge, I finally settled on GIECO because they discrimainate based on all types of risk factors that others dont to give the lowest rates without being a ripoff company.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 5:20:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: SmithL

I always wondered about their name, “Progressive”.

It’s somewhat concerning in relationship to other insurance company names: All State & State Farm.

Aren’t all three just a variation of the Marxist ideal?


23 posted on 08/17/2012 5:29:50 AM PDT by proparapi
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To: gunsequalfreedom

While i have had good experiences with insurance companies...

I learned a long time ago that the insurance company’s job is to say “No”. You have to be absolutely unafraid to climb their corporate ladder, yelling and jumping on desks until you find someone that says “Maybe”...and you know you’re on the right track. Then you yell and jump some more until you find the person that says “Yes”.

You have to wear a cup...and keep the pucker factor high and tight.


24 posted on 08/17/2012 5:50:37 AM PDT by moovova (OMG...Obama Must Go)
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To: SmithL

Not paying claims.....now that’s Progressive!


25 posted on 08/17/2012 6:12:45 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SmithL

What did anyone expect? Progressive insurance is owned by a far left progressive. Far enough left that he is standing next to Obama, a Marxist communist.

The Liberal/progressive world is a world where to lie, cheat, steal even murder to advance their agenda, is laudable behavior.


26 posted on 08/17/2012 8:19:54 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: sickoflibs

I went with Allstate when I first moved to MD. Then, when I added a fourth car for my daughter, a 14 year old beater, they wanted to double my rates. GEICO is cheaper for four cars than Allstate was for three cars.

The four drivers in the family have 76 combined years of driving. One ticket, zero accidents together yet these vultures feel the need to charge to the max. I buy as little insurance as required and drive cars that are paid off and if they get wrecked, it will be painful but they can be replaced. I refuse to pay the value of the car in annual insurance premiums.


27 posted on 08/17/2012 9:41:59 AM PDT by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: cyclotic
RE :’I went with Allstate when I first moved to MD. Then, when I added a fourth car for my daughter, a 14 year old beater, they wanted to double my rates. GEICO is cheaper for four cars than Allstate was for three cars.

My story is very similar. GIECO obviously does detailed statistical risk modeling that includes all types of factors that other companies do not bother with. If you are low risk based on those factors then GEICO is the place to go.

back 15 years or more I had my car hit three times when it wasnt even moving , the other driver got the fault and paid. Yet I couldnt get in the lowest discount rate because of that. It's statistical risk modeling.

A couple of years ago Allstate called and we compared theirs with my GEICO and Allstate told me that no one could match the rates GEICO was giving me,.

28 posted on 08/17/2012 10:02:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: cyclotic

Everyone’s experience is different. I have Allstate, pay $163 for 6 months liability coverage (I have the Premiere Plus Policy) they have 3 policy types ask to qualify for Premiere Plus but the level of Bodily Injury coverage you have, credit, driving history will determine if you qualify. Anyways no one can touch their rates and in 2001 a guy leaped on my hood on a bike as I turned into the street, he faked being injured & Allstate paid his claim fast & in full despite my objections.


29 posted on 09/09/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by eaglestar
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To: bert
Meanwhile, GEICO is poking fun at wacko lefties. A man with a sweater tied around his shoulders is at a farmers market. He asks the farmer “what is the carbon foot print of the cauliflower?” Before the answer, Gallagher comes running up with a Nancy Pelosi sized gavel and beats up on watermelons. The melons fly all over and are revealed to be green on the outside and red on the inside.

You do know, don't you, that GEICO was founded as "Government Employees Insurance Company" and is owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway? Somehow I doubt that its purpose is to beat up lefties.

30 posted on 09/09/2012 7:44:07 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yep..... my first autos were insured by GEICO back in the day when I worked for the Navy


31 posted on 09/09/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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