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Glenn interviews FRC shooting witness General Jerry Boykin
Glenn Beck ^ | Aug 17 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/18/2012 7:46:47 AM PDT by scottjewell

"He was going to go through and kill as many people as he could and drop Chick-fil-A bags at every dead body to send a signal that he was reacting to the — our stance on traditional marriage, that being between a man and a woman."

The media has gone AWOL on the shooting by an apparent deranged leftist at the Family Research Council in Washington DC this week. Friend of the show (ret) General Boykin was at the building when the incident occurred and gives an incredible account of what happened. It’s a great story of heroics – so why is the media ignoring it?

Transcript of interview:

GLENN: I think — we think that that’s only relevant because they think that’s his plan — that’s where he learned what he was going to do with GM, but that’s another story. We have a friend that works at the Family Research Council, Lieutenant general Jerry Boykin. He is on the phone. There was a tragedy this week, as you may know. A gunman came in, shot a security guard, and, of course, the press hasn’t stopped talking about it. Oh, no. Wait. They did. This one is — this one is significant because the shooter was a volunteer. This is a leftist — this is a political terrorist strike. General Jerry Boykin with us. General, how are you, sir?

GENERAL BOYKIN: I’m good, Glenn. It’s good to be with you. I’m not quite sure why you played that clip from the President in this segment that I’m on.

GLENN: I really think it’s — I really think it’s because — it’s his plan for the economy, but help me out on — you were — you were actually there when the shooter came?

GENERAL BOYKIN: I was. It was about 10:46 on Wednesday morning. He walked in the lobby, set a backpack down in front of the guard desk and then reached in his backpack. Fortunately this guard who was actually the building manager but kind of dual roles as a guard, realized something was up and got out of his chair and approached the man and just as the man pulled a pistol, pointed it at his head, this gentle giant of a guard reached up and grabbed the gun and he shot him — the gunman shot our man Leo Johnson in the wrist but with one arm, Leo wrestled this man to the ground and took his gun away from him and what a hero this guy was. He saved a lot of people and there’s no question, Glenn, this guy’s intent based on the fact that he had about 50 rounds of ammunition and 15 Chick-fil-A bags was this was going to be a mass murder on our — a large scale.

GLENN: You actually talked to the gunman?

GENERAL BOYKIN: I listened as the gunman lay on the floor talking to police and he said, I don’t like the policies here and, you know, he — in fact, he stated that to the guard, as well. So, yeah, it was — there was no question what his motive was. He tied us to Chick-fil-A and I think the scenario is — it doesn’t take much imagination, Glenn. He was going to go through and kill as many people as he could and drop Chick-fil-A bags at every dead body to send a signal that he was reacting to the — our stance on traditional marriage, that being between a man and a woman.

ADVERTISEMENT GLENN: Well, I think the way to make sure everybody understands your point is to be a mass murderer. The media is reacting to this in their stereotypical way. General, what is the way — how do we change this? They’re ignoring the Black Panthers who have come out and said, Throw bombs into nurseries, kill crackers, as they would say, and everybody is ignoring it. The press even makes us into conspiracy freaks for bringing is up. We bring up the left is the one that always has caused 90% of the shootings and the political statement, kind of bombings, et cetera, et cetera, the terror throughout American history it’s generally from either crazy people or the left and how do we get this message out? Who do we do, General?

GENERAL BOYKIN: Well, Glenn, it’s even worse than that. It’s worse. I mean, not only are they ignoring this and don’t want to deal with it but CNN the morning after in an interview with Brian Brown from the National Organization For Marriage actually tried to justify the hate group label that was placed on the Family Research Council by this anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-sematic Marxist organization called the Southern Poverty Law Center which is a — just an evil group of people and so they actually tried to justify this hate crimes — I mean this hate group label that they gave. What do we do? Well, CNN’s ratings are already in the tank, as well as most of the mainstream media and what we do is continue to do what you are doing with both your radio program, as well as your broadcast, and other organizations like yours, we keep putting the truth out and it is starting to resonate and I think that’s the reason that the popularity of your program is growing is Americans are actually starting to look for truth. You know, Glenn, it’s important to remember that in a recent survey 80% of Americans surveyed supported Dan Cathy and his stance on traditional marriage but the mainstream media is never going to report that and the Southern Poverty Law Center is right in the middle of this culture war and I think what you’re doing and what others like you are doing, particularly with talk radio and with nontraditional means of communication is so critical to keeping the truth out for the American public today.

GLENN: Okay. You made quite a statement about the Southern Poverty Law Center. Most people don’t even know who they are because — they’re quoted all the time by all of the news networks. They’re taking a look at all of the hate groups and monitoring all hate crimes. They have put the Black Panthers in the category of a right wing extremist group on the same list as FRC and the same list as David Barton. Can you — who is the Southern Poverty Law Center? Who are they?

GENERAL BOYKIN: Well, first of all, I’ve already given you my label for them and they are — in fact, they are very similar to the ACLU. They’re a group of lawyers, as well as Marxists who have, in fact, raised an awful lot of money which we understand is being kept offshore and they go after every liberal cause in America. They are — they — in fact, they just had a big meeting this week with the Muslim political action committee and that is a very anti-sematic organization and these people are dangerous, they are evil, and my question is, Glenn, who are they to have any authority to declare anybody a hate group? And, remember, they also called Hitler right wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC but, you know, people today on the left refer to Hitler as right wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Well, Hitler was anything but right wing. Remember, he was the nationalist socialist party.

GLENN: Are you more optimistic, less optimistic, or about the same as you were a year ago for the health of the nation?

GENERAL BOYKIN: I am so concerned, Glenn. I must tell you, I’m angry. I’m really angry. I’m angry because people like you and the FRC and others are standing up and speaking for what I believe is the majority of Americans, while Americans, you know, sit at home and cheer you on but they’re doing very little to actually get involved in this culture war and I’m optimistic that people are starting to wake up and as tragic as this event was, Glenn, I think that it is just another way that people are being shaken and people are being brought to an awareness that we are losing our country and the average American that stands on traditional values, the average Christian that believes in a biblical world view have got to get involved and they’ve got to put their time, their effort, their money, and their speech behind what is happening here. So, thank you for what you’re doing.

GLENN: Well, General, you are one of my favorite people because you never mince words and you’ve taken a strong stand to your own peril for a very long time. You’re a personal hero. Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin. Our best to the Family Research Council and everybody. How is everybody doing there?

GENERAL BOYKIN: They are doing well. Leo is an extraordinary hero and he’s doing quite well. I was with him when he came out of surgery; and the people at FRC are tough warriors, Glenn. We are not going away. We’re not going to change our position. We’re going to stand firm because we do believe that we are speaking for the majority of Americans who still maintain very traditional values.

GLENN: Thank you very much, General. I –

GENERAL BOYKIN: Thank you, Glenn. God bless you.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beck; boykin; familyresearch; floydcorkins; frc; frcshooting; homosexualagenda; liberalintolerance; liberalviolence; shooting

1 posted on 08/18/2012 7:46:51 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

“He was going to go through and kill as many people as he could and drop Chick-fil-A bags at every dead body to send a signal that he was reacting to the — our stance on traditional marriage, that being between a man and a woman.”

I knew it... won’t be hearing about this latest example of libtard “tolerance” anywhere in the corrupt MSM.


2 posted on 08/18/2012 7:50:52 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: scottjewell

Kristallnacht. It’s coming. A repeat of November 1938. The current administration in Washington will do nothing to discourage it. Indeed, it has given its tacit approval by remaining silent in the wake of the attack.


3 posted on 08/18/2012 7:58:19 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: scottjewell
You made quite a statement about the Southern Poverty Law Center. Most people don’t even know who they are because — they’re quoted all the time by all of the news networks. They’re taking a look at all of the hate groups and monitoring all hate crimes. They have put the Black Panthers in the category of a right wing extremist group on the same list as FRC and the same list as David Barton. Can you — who is the Southern Poverty Law Center? Who are they?

Took a quick look at their website. To their credit they list black hate groups as well as white hate groups, though I don't know if their definitions are applied even-handedly. (Doubt it.)

But I was really struck by their category of "racist music." It is specifically limited to "white racist" groups. Apparently not one single black racist music group exists.

4 posted on 08/18/2012 8:02:20 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PowderMonkey; All

It sure seems we’ve reached a point of no return, doesn’t it? A few months ago, who could have predicted the Aug 1 Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day, and after that, the Family Research Council shooting? The lines have been drawn now.


5 posted on 08/18/2012 8:02:20 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: PowderMonkey
Kristallnacht

Doubt it. Kristallnacht only took place because control of the the German police had always been tightly centralized. So when the Nazis grabbed the central power, they had control of all the cops. They had also been in complete control for five years.

America doesn't (yet) work that way. The President does not the power to issue an order and have all the local cops stand down.

Also the fairly obvious fact that the Jews weren't armed.

6 posted on 08/18/2012 8:08:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PowderMonkey

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47420

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48586


7 posted on 08/18/2012 8:08:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Common Sense 101

No, the New York Times also has been utterly silent on the whole issue.


8 posted on 08/18/2012 8:12:28 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Sherman Logan

Naturally.


9 posted on 08/18/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Sherman Logan; All

Sorry, it is later than you think. Local police were ordered by DHS not to arrest OWS criminals who were clearly breaking the law:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916138/posts


10 posted on 08/18/2012 8:54:46 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: Sherman Logan; scottjewell

“To their credit they list black hate groups as well as white hate groups....”

That is called camouflage or deception. I consider it similar to saying “Although he killed 6 million Jews, to his credit, Hitler liked dogs, didn’t smoke, and was a vegetarian.”


11 posted on 08/18/2012 8:58:35 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Sherman Logan
"The President does not the power to issue an order and have all the local cops stand down."

You make the mistake of assuminng he understands, knows, or cares about that.
12 posted on 08/18/2012 9:11:25 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: PowderMonkey

You make the mistake of assuming that if the President issues an illegal order the cops across the country will obey it.


13 posted on 08/18/2012 9:17:34 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PowderMonkey
Write in Palin/Boykin 2012
Boykin is always where the action is.
TWB
14 posted on 08/18/2012 9:19:58 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: scottjewell

The one-party media is the problem in this country but this issue of persecuting conservatives is way worse that SLPC. Their doctrines and mentalities of hatred are anchored in our government’s war on terror machine.

They are officially naming conserviates - libertarians, third party voters, Christians, vets, constitution supporters, second amendment supporters, pro-life supporters, anti-globalization (NWO) activists (all the far Left’s political and social opposition) as domestic terrorists - enemies of the State. They are teaching law enforcement officials all across the country that conservatives are terrorists.

The US military has adopted this homeland war mentality as well. They are preparing for a civil war and they made the Tea Party as their domestic enemy in this pre-planned civil war.

The Federal government has to be challenged on doing this to conservatives and throughly changed or we are going to see very bad times ahead. The GOP won’t do anything to help.


15 posted on 08/18/2012 9:56:33 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

What you say is frightening but I can’t really argue with it. That said, the Occupy movement is a left movement and they have the same paranoia. Maybe the powers that be are against both sides.


16 posted on 08/18/2012 10:00:18 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Well for conservatives it is not baseless “paranoia.” What I said is documented in Federal Homeland inSecurity, DOJ and Military war game papers.


17 posted on 08/18/2012 10:10:49 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Worse than that. The GOP-e is far more motivated to turn a blind eye to violence against Conservatives than just about any other group. Check this from yesterday though ~ makes for a confusing picture; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2919729/posts


18 posted on 08/18/2012 10:18:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sherman Logan

DHS ordered PD in Oakland to not arrest OWS protesters. They complied. If they want their pensions, and if they want to make their mortagage and car payments, and keep their health insurance coverage, they’ll follow orders. Legal or otherwise. History has proven it time and again.


19 posted on 08/18/2012 10:20:52 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SaraJohnson

No, didn’t mean to imply it was paranoia in the sense of being groundless or delusional - just that I have heard the left Occupy movement voice the same fears.

I don’t doubt at all that there has been a war declared on social conservatism and constitutionalists - I have been saying so for years.... just wondered why certain factions of the left feel the same.

The MSM and politically correct agenda crowd seem to be the group favored.


20 posted on 08/18/2012 10:26:14 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for that link. Siding with radical Islam has motivated our government to shift attention away from the war on Islamic terror (that raaaacis!) and onto a different target - the left’s political enemies. Both parties are in on this, especially McCain for the GOP.


21 posted on 08/18/2012 10:59:56 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: scottjewell

God bless General Boykin, sacrificed at the altar of political correctness under the hand of Bush II. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/15/60ii/main643650.shtml


22 posted on 08/18/2012 4:10:20 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: Sherman Logan
It is later than you think. Agencies that have no business arming themselves are doing so. And that health-care bill that no one read before it passed, provides for a national police force that does what the military is prohibited from doing according to Posse Comotades. Candidate Obama called for a national police force equal to the capabilities of our military (that is a page out of the Communist playbook), you can find video of that one on youtube. The way it is written in the health-care law this force is totally under the purview of the President of the United States. BUT, don't take my word for it, IT'S IN THERE, I HAVE READ IT. There is also a longstanding, little-known idea that was actually in play during WWII; Martial Law is easier to invoke in our society than you would think even under current law.

I am a Former Intel Analyst who has reason to track what goes on in the region. And I also track all things political nationally and internationally. While I agree that we need to acknowledge our involvement, your take is a little simplistic.

Oh, and the guy talking to Beck, General Boykin, was Commander, Delta Force, and Commander, USSOCOM, and he spent time as Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. If means anything, he spent 2 years of his life being investigated for a myriad of things stemming from false accusations (levied because he made the statement quoted to a Somali Warlord) and he was exonerated on ALL charges. I have not only met him, but I have worked with people who know and have worked closely with him both as a military professional and as a civilian operator.

23 posted on 08/22/2012 12:01:29 AM PDT by MGNS
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To: MGNS
(levied because he made the statement quoted to a Somali Warlord)

Ought to read up some time on how Ike dealt with American generals who made similar idiotic statements that might offend allies during WWII.

Generals, especially in time of war, are given great power. They as a result have great responsibility not to say remarkably stupid things that injure the fighting power of the nation they work for.

24 posted on 08/22/2012 3:00:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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