Posted on 08/19/2012 11:22:03 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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Here is the latest update of my Rasmussen state-by-state presidential model.
The model begins with the final results of the 2008 election, and updates those results with current Rasmussen state polls as they are published.
Final 2008 Electoral College results were Obama 365, McCain 173. My model begins with Obama 364, McCain 174, due to not handling the few split-win states.
Furthermore, 2010 apportionment favored Republicans, leaving us with a starting point of Obama 358, Romney 180.
This Edition's Updates:
Since the last report, Rasmussen published polls in Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, and a re-poll in Wisconsin. Obama's Electoral College count has gone down to 260 Electoral Votes to Romney's growth to 238, with 37 EV up for grabs. If the election were held today, the race would be leaning to Obama. Probabilistically, Romney has a 25.1% chance of winning today, an increase of about 13% from the prior report.
In Colorado, the race is still a tie. Romney's gained 2% from the mid-June poll, but so did Obama, leaving the race as a Toss-up.
In Florida, Romney made a slight gain, increasing his 1% lead to 2% from the June poll. Romney's support fell by 1% from June, but Obama's support fell by 2%, inching Florida into the Leans Romney category, moving Florida's 29 Electoral Votes into Romney's column.
In Indiana, the bottom fell out for the Obama campaign. Romney gained 3% from a late-May poll, while Obama lost 7%, making Indiana safe for Romney.
In Iowa, Romney lost 1% from a mid-June poll, while Obama lost 2%, netting a 2% lead for Romney. Iowa moves from Toss-up to Leans Romney and another 6 Electoral Vote pickup.
In Ohio, Romney held his support from a mid-July poll, while Obama lost 2%. Ohio moves from Leans Obama to Toss-up, and Obama loses 18 Electoral Votes.
In Virginia, Obama had some success. Romney held his position from a mid-July poll, while Obama gained 1%, netting a 2% lead for Obama. Virginia moves from Toss-up to Leans Obama and gives him 13 Electoral Votes, making back some of the 18 he lost in Ohio.
In Wisconsin, a big shift happened - again. Rasmussen re-polled his late-July poll because of the primary, and Romney regained his loss plus another 1%. Obama lost 2% from the July poll, but is still in a better place than his 44% from mid-June. While not totally re-flipping, Wisconsin moves to a Toss-up, taking another 10 Electoral Votes away from Obama.
Below is the latest round of state polls. The first number is the change in GOP result from the last poll (or last election if no prior poll), and the second number is the separation from the Democrat candidate's result.
Watch List:
Summary of Electoral College breakdown
Obama - 260 | Romney - 238 | ||||||||||||
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Safe | Strong | Leaning | Toss-Up | Leaning | Strong | Safe | |||||||
EV | State | EV | State | EV | State | EV | State | EV | State | EV | State | EV | State |
55 | California | 16 | Michigan | 13 | Virginia | 9 | Colorado | 29 | Florida | 16 | Georgia | 9 | Alabama |
7 | Connecticut | 4 | New Hampshire | 18 | Ohio | 6 | Iowa | 10 | Missouri | 3 | Alaska | ||
3 | District of Columbia | 6 | Nevada | 10 | Wisconsin | 15 | North Carolina | 11 | Arizona | ||||
3 | Delaware | 20 | Pennsylvania | 6 | Arkansas | ||||||||
4 | Hawaii | 4 | Idaho | ||||||||||
20 | Illinois | 11 | Indiana | ||||||||||
4 | Maine | 6 | Kansas | ||||||||||
10 | Maryland | 8 | Kentucky | ||||||||||
11 | Massachusetts | 8 | Louisiana | ||||||||||
10 | Minnesota | 6 | Mississippi | ||||||||||
14 | New Jersey | 3 | Montana | ||||||||||
5 | New Mexico | 5 | Nebraska | ||||||||||
29 | New York | 3 | North Dakota | ||||||||||
7 | Oregon | 7 | Oklahoma | ||||||||||
4 | Rhode Island | 9 | South Carolina | ||||||||||
3 | Vermont | 3 | South Dakota | ||||||||||
12 | Washington | 11 | Tennessee | ||||||||||
38 | Texas | ||||||||||||
6 | Utah | ||||||||||||
5 | West Virginia | ||||||||||||
3 | Wyoming | ||||||||||||
201 | 46 | 13 | 37 | 35 | 41 | 162 | |||||||
2008 Final Results
Link to 2008 Final Election Map
Current State Leanings
Link to Current Electoral College Map
Using the most recent Rasmussen polls, the results of 32,000 simulated elections are listed in the table below. The definitions of the columns are:
Week | GOP Electoral College P10 |
GOP Electoral College EV |
GOP Electoral College P90 |
Probability of 270 |
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2008 Election | 180 | 180 | 180 | 0.00% |
12-May-12 | 193 | 220.73 | 248 | 0.16% |
19-May-12 | 197 | 225.09 | 248 | 0.23% |
26-May-12 | 206 | 232.72 | 256 | 1.21% |
02-Jun-12 | 216 | 242.46 | 266 | 4.43% |
09-Jun-12 | 221 | 247.73 | 275 | 14.02% |
16-Jun-12 | 230 | 257.37 | 282 | 28.95% |
23-Jun-12 | 231 | 257.92 | 282 | 30.10% |
30-Jun-12 | 225 | 254.58 | 282 | 24.61% |
07-Jul-12 | 225 | 254.58 | 282 | 24.61% |
14-Jul-12 | 225 | 254.58 | 282 | 24.61% |
21-Jul-12 | 219 | 248.33 | 276 | 16.46% |
28-Jul-12 | 215 | 244.1 | 272 | 11.78% |
04-Aug-12 | 216 | 245.64 | 273 | 12.75% |
11-Aug-12 | 215 | 245.24 | 273 | 12.05% |
18-Aug-12 | 225 | 255.61 | 282 | 25.11% |
And in the Senate...
The race for Senate control is still see-sawing. The Republicans, yet again, gain a state here and lose a state there.
This is the latest run of my Rasmussen state-by-state Senate model.
The model begins with the final results of the last Class 1 election, and I will update those results with current Rasmussen state polls as they are published.
Final 2010 Senate results were Republicans taking 47 seats, and Democrats caucusing 53 seats. My model begins with here.
As of now, the Senate still looks to be a 51-49 GOP take-over, with a probability of 84.3%.
Since the last report, Rasmussen published polls in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
In Florida, with the primary behind them, Republican Mack lost 6% from a mid-July poll, while incumbent Democrat Nelson gained 10%, making this race a 47%-40% hold for Democrats. Previously, the July poll had Republicans gaining this seat.
In Ohio, the state appears to be moving towards Republicans. Mandel gained 2% from the July poll, while incumbent Brown lost 2%, making this race a 44% toss-up.
In Virginia, Republican Allen picked up another 1% from the July poll, while Democrat Kaine remains unchanged over three polls. The race is now tied at 46%. Let's hope that the Senate race is a foreshadowing of the President's race.
In Wisconsin, the new poll proves that the last one was an outlier. Republican Thompson went from 52% to 41% and back to 54%, while Democrat Baldwin went from 36% to 48% and down to 43%. Wisconsin is now a safe gain for Republicans.
Below is the latest round of state polls. The first number is the change in GOP result from the last poll (or seat election if no prior poll), and the second number is the separation from the Democrat candidate's result.
Watch List:
Using the most recent Rasmussen polls, the results of 32,000 simulated elections are listed in the table below. The definitions of the columns are:
Week | GOP Senate Seats P10 |
GOP Senate Seats EV |
GOP Senate Seats P90 |
Probability of 51 |
GOP Gain |
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2010 Election | 47 | 47 | 47 | 0.00% | 0 |
12-May-12 | 50 | 51.24 | 52 | 77.01% | 4 |
19-May-12 | 50 | 51.24 | 52 | 77.01% | 4 |
26-May-12 | 49 | 50.75 | 52 | 58.53% | 3 |
02-Jun-12 | 49 | 50.63 | 52 | 54.34% | 3 |
09-Jun-12 | 49 | 50.37 | 52 | 44.50% | 3 |
16-Jun-12 | 49 | 50.37 | 52 | 44.50% | 3 |
23-Jun-12 | 49 | 50.05 | 52 | 34.52% | 3 |
30-Jun-12 | 49 | 50.05 | 52 | 34.52% | 3 |
07-Jul-12 | 49 | 50.05 | 52 | 34.52% | 3 |
14-Jul-12 | 51 | 52.04 | 54 | 91.10% | 5 |
21-Jul-12 | 51 | 52.19 | 54 | 92.42% | 5 |
28-Jul-12 | 51 | 52.17 | 54 | 92.18% | 5 |
04-Aug-12 | 50 | 51.33 | 53 | 75.39% | 4 |
11-Aug-12 | 50 | 51.43 | 53 | 78.01% | 4 |
18-Aug-12 | 50 | 51.76 | 53 | 84.33% | 4 |
Link to Senate Probability Chart
-PJ
-PJ
Given the impact of the third party Nadar vote for the Bush election, I would like to see some analysis of the potential impact of the Libertarian Party, Green Party, and Goode and Rohmer third party vote probabilities.
Are you asking whether that 6% is coming from Romney's or Obama's total, or whether they would go to neither and the voter will just stay home, or whether they would still vote for the 3rd party candidate on election day?
Most people think that the undecided vote tends to break for the challenger, because if they supported the incumbent they'd already have made up their mind. Along those lines, one could surmise that the 3rd party vote is also a protest against the incumbent moreso than a refusal to support the challenger.
I use Rasmussen's public polling data, so I'm not diving (yet) into the details where 3rd party insights may lie. That said, I'm 100% certain that a 3rd party candidate will not win the Presidency.
-PJ
excellent.
got my own guide to Central CT.
targetted libs in the state House
Southington (open)
Cheshire (vickie)
Wethersfield (Morin)
Manchester (open)
W Hartford (new guy)
Bristol (wright)
I think we can win 3 or 4 of these seats that are currently DEM.
Read “Battle Hymn, the Sinister New World Order” yet? Why not?
I too am certain that a third party candidate will not win. The question is how much will one candidate or the other be hurt by them. The Libertarians and Goode supporters will probably draw from the Republican side. The Greens will tend to be from the Democrats. Not sure what the trend would be for Rohmer. There is a party, I think called Peace and Freedom in California which would probably draw from the Democrats. I’m not sure what else is out there. Given the growth of green parties in Europe, I wonder about the future of the Green Party in the US.
Anybody else getting a little worried about Romney slipping 5-6 points in last couple of weeks in the Rasmussen poll?
Hear is another interesting link examining polls from a number of different angles, with lots of charts and data. Probably a good one to bookmark for on going follow-up. PJT—You might want to post this one too. My computer skills are weak.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
I want to be careful about what I post, because the toplines are by subscription and I don't want to violate any copywrite or ownership laws. So far, I've only been using the content on the free side of Rasmussen's site.
I'm going to try to create some composite measures that don't expose Rasmussen's pay-data, if possible.
-PJ
He's doing the same thing I'm doing, but he has vastly more resources at his disposal. I'm just doing this as a hobby.
Besides, I'm limiting myself to Rasmussen's polling data. The others are using multiple polls, plus past history, and their own thoughts on what the trends are despite what spot polls might be saying.
I'm staying way from saucing up the conclusions, and am staying strictly with what the data is saying on a weekly basis.
-PJ
I heard that Romney was somewhat limited in responding to Obama's lies because Romney spent most of his primary funds and has to wait for the general election to begin before he can start spending again. Since Obama was unopposed, he still has his primary funds to spend attacking Romney.
Hopefully, Obama's lies were so over-the-top that Romney doesn't need to respond; the people will be naturally turned off by Obama's extreme antics.
The Ohio poll may be a bellwether.
-PJ
GOP will get a bump following the Convention as more Indies start listening, nobama will start to run low on funds and the final 3 or 4 weeks may see nobama unable to put together many ads. By then it'll almost be a done deal anyway regardless of how various polls want to push.
One thing I have noted, dems and nobama in particular are so emotionally tied to their far left ideology they give away their fear with body language. The worse their internal polls show, the more desperate they will come across. Desperation never gins up support.
Excellent and good stuff. The movement for the most part is in the right direction. I think VA will go for Romney in the end.
Note the differentiation between the seats that represent GOP Holds and those that represent opportunities for Gains. Democrats currently control 53 seats in the Senate (including two independents who caucus with the Democrats), Republicans 47. If Republicans hold all the seats they have currently, they will need to gain four more seats to have a majority.
We will likely lose ME, so we'll need five gains for a majority. As of 8/19/12, the best opportunities for those gains are in the states of NE, MO, WI, ND, and MT.
Links to GOP primary winners' websites are included so you can learn more about the candidates and donate, if you feel so inclined.
If you're interested in all polling on Senate races, check out Real Clear Politics Senate Polls.
It's widely thought that the GOP will keep the House, so besides the battle for the White House, the next focus has to be the Senate.
8/19/12 Race for the U.S. Senate Ranked Roughly From Most to Least Likely GOP Win | |||
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State |
Republican Candidate | Democrat/IND Candidate | Hold OR Gain |
NE* | Debra Fischer | Bob Kerrey | GAIN |
AZ* | Primary 8/28/12 (Jeff Flake#) | HOLD | |
IN* | Richard Mourdock | Joe Donnelly | HOLD |
MO | Todd Akin | Claire McCaskill+ | GAIN |
WI* | Tommy Thompson | Tammy Baldwin | GAIN |
NV | Dean Heller+ | Shelley Berkley | HOLD |
ND* | Rick Berg | Heidi Heitcamp | GAIN |
MT | Denny Rehberg | Jon Tester* | GAIN |
MA | Scott Brown+ | Elizabeth Warren | HOLD |
VA* | George Allen | Tim Kaine | GAIN |
OH | Josh Mandel | Sherrod Brown+ | GAIN |
FL | Connie Mack | Bill Nelson+ | GAIN |
MI | Pete Hoekstra | Debbie Stabenow+ | GAIN |
NM* | Heather Wilson | Martin Heinrich | GAIN |
NJ | Joe Kyrillos | Bob Menendez+ | GAIN |
PA | Tom Smith | Bob Casey+ | GAIN |
HI* | Linda Lingle | Mazie Hirono | GAIN |
WV | John Raese | Joe Manchin+ | GAIN |
CT* | Linda McMahon | Chris Murphy | GAIN |
ME* | Charles Summers | Angus King (Ind.) | HOLD |
WA | Michael Baumgartner | Maria Cantwell+ | GAIN |
*Open Seat +Incumbent #GOP Frontrunner |
BTTT
I'll be shocked if the third parties combined will get anything more than 2% of the total national popular vote. That would be a generous estimate. And Nader's impact on the Bush election in 2000 was merely the result of a very unusually tight race in Florida: 500+ votes separating Bush and Gore out of more than 5 million total votes cast which happened to be decisive for Bush's margin in the electoral college. (It was not because of any unusual strength for Nader's Green Party candidacy.) The probability of a similar occurrence this year is very small.
That's why when you see a Ras poll indicating that 6% in a particular state (like Ohio this week) prefer a third party candidate, you can bet your farm that the majority of those third party people will either stay home or vote for one of the major candidates, with Romney getting more of their votes than Obama. Remember that some people who receive a robo-call from a pollster will prefer, because they are uncomfortable talking to an electronic voice about Obama, to wimp out and say they're undecided or are supporting another candidate.
Obama can't mathematically win re-election with only 45% of the popular vote. He won't be getting very much more from the segment of voters who are now telling a pollster that they are undecided or voting third party, certainly not enough to push him past Romney.
-PJ
Keep in mind that the organization that does a meta analysis of only Likely Voters...is showing Romney with 294 EVs right now, where Lean states are counted.
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