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Autopsy: Death of handcuffed man in Ark. a suicide
Associated Press ^ | August. 20, 2012 | JEANNIE NUSS

Posted on 08/20/2012 10:25:50 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- An autopsy report released Monday lists the death of a man shot in the head while his hands were cuffed behind him in an Arkansas patrol car as a suicide.

The state crime lab report, signed by three medical examiners, said the muzzle of a gun was placed against the right side of 21-year-old Chavis Carter's head when it was fired.

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KEYWORDS: arkancide; leo; suicide
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To: UCANSEE2

Perhaps he shot himself in the head BEFORE they cuffed and stuffed him, and it took him all that time to die. Ya, that’s the ticket.


21 posted on 08/20/2012 10:47:32 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: muir_redwoods
I don’t believe for a moment that that is how this happened.

I would be interested in your alternate explanation.

22 posted on 08/20/2012 10:48:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Also, he fired the gun three times. Worst suicide case in memory.


23 posted on 08/20/2012 10:51:03 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: VanShuyten
Perhaps he shot himself in the head BEFORE they cuffed and stuffed him, and it took him all that time to die. Ya, that’s the ticket.

And his gun had a James Bond Silencer on it.

24 posted on 08/20/2012 10:51:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Free ThinkerNY


25 posted on 08/20/2012 10:51:39 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: UCANSEE2

A drive by by a rival gang member
A murderous cop

That’s two. Until the dash cam video is released, they both sound more likely.


26 posted on 08/20/2012 10:52:29 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Take a look at this video. It IS possible to shoot yourself in the head with your arms handcuffed behind you:

Shooting Oneself while handcuffed

27 posted on 08/20/2012 10:53:58 AM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: Free ThinkerNY


28 posted on 08/20/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

After seeing his photos, I don’t blame him for not wanting to return to prison.


29 posted on 08/20/2012 10:55:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I almost believe it. Why would the cops shoot him in the back seat? If they wanted to murder him, pull him out of the car and shoot him trying to escape? I’ll wait for the video. It just seems too stupid to use as an alibi, so it might be the truth.


30 posted on 08/20/2012 10:56:22 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Video of the stop here ...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/18/police-release-footage-from-backseat-suicide-traffic-stop/


31 posted on 08/20/2012 11:01:15 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It IS possible to shoot oneself in the head while handcuffed with your hands behind you. watch:

Shooting while handcuffed

The real issue is why a gun wasn't found AFTER two pat downs???

32 posted on 08/20/2012 11:01:28 AM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
where were the king and queen of arkincides and was this guy a democrap with loose lips?
33 posted on 08/20/2012 11:02:32 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: muir_redwoods
A drive by by a rival gang member

I thought of that too. Maybe not a rival, but a dealer who was worried that the 'kid' might rat him out. Question is how would a bystander be able to get to the police car and shoot a weapon without anyone hearing it? Secondly, how would be get the bullet to pass through the glass without breaking it ?

A murderous cop

Maybe. Based on the DASH CAM VIDEO (which seems to stop before Carter shoots himself), I don't see a bunch of 'hopped up' cops who can't wait to shoot somebody just for fun.

Until the dash cam video is released, they both sound more likely.

Jonesboro Police Release DashCam Footage Moments After Chavis Carter Shooting (VIDEO) (ALSO CONTAINS A TIMELINE OF THE EVENT)

Police in Jonesboro, Arkansas released two dash cam videos in the case of Chavis Carter

GOOGLE search of Chavis Carter lists dozens of location to find the videos.

34 posted on 08/20/2012 11:08:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: texson66

The demo video is bull hocky. When cops put cuffs on you they are so tight that it will cut your hand circulation. The cuffs will not slip up your arm, the cuffs will not go past your wrist bone and will allow only a tiny amount of movement of the hands. In the video provided it is simply silly to see the cuffs ridding up the forearm of the cops in the portrayal, silly and sickening. If you let me put the cuffs on I’ll guarantee they won’t be moving around like they did in the demo.

I’m not saying that it is impossible for the guy to shoot himself, that I don’t know the answer to, but the video demo is just plain silly.


35 posted on 08/20/2012 11:10:28 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Agree. Release the video.

Or maybe they haven’t had time to edit it yet.


36 posted on 08/20/2012 11:17:04 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Free ThinkerNY

To point out the rather disgustingly obvious, it would seem that the conclusive evidence here would be if the decedent’s feces was on the gun. If that is the case, all the rest is possible.

The gun is described as a “.380-caliber Cobra”. I gather semi-automatic as opposed to Derringer style. It is typically purchased as a small, concealable gun.

Lots more details:

http://www.kait8.com/story/19149968/arkansas-state-crime-lab-rules-chavis-carter-death-suicide


37 posted on 08/20/2012 11:17:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JAKraig

The “tightness” of the cuffs has little to do with the ability to maneuver your hands. The factor determining that is the spacer between the cuffs. If that is the standard distance and the distance used on the the guy’s hands, then the JPD needs to review their cuff design.

Still I don’t see how they could miss a gun with two pat downs.


38 posted on 08/20/2012 11:28:50 AM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It could be he was holding himself hostage like in "Blazing Saddles" and accidentally shot himself... / S
39 posted on 08/20/2012 11:29:40 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: commonguymd

I had a friend that found himself in a nightmare scenario in Conroe, Texas, in the pre-concealed carry days.

He was handcuffed to the bench, inside the police office, but he still had a pistol hidden in his pants.

He said that he was quite concerned about how things would work out.


40 posted on 08/20/2012 11:33:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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