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Will Obama Keep Power 'by Any Means Necessary'? (extensive details, must read)
American Thinker ^ | 8-21-12 | Stella Paul

Posted on 08/21/2012 12:38:58 AM PDT by STARWISE

Let's go there:

if Obama thinks he's losing, will he allow safe and fair elections on November 6? And if he does lose, will he peacefully turn over power to Mitt Romney on January 20, 2013? Or will he cling to power "by any means necessary," as a highly placed insider alleges?

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That's the question recently posed by retired Major General Jerry Curry in the Daily Caller, in light of horrifying reports that the Social Security Administration is buying 174,000 rounds of hollow-point bullets for distribution to 41 locations in the U.S.

According to Major General Curry, Social Security's ammo spree follows the purchase by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) of 46,000 rounds of hollow-point ammunition.

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Most terrifying of all, Major General Curry reports that the Department of Homeland Security ordered 750 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition in March, then subsequently ordered an additional 750 million rounds, including bullets capable of penetrating walls.

"This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen," ....

I strongly suggest that you read Major General Curry's article for yourself, so you can appreciate the full horror of what he describes. After pointing out that Congress has done nothing to investigate these weapon purchases, Major General Curry, a 40-year veteran, concludes with these chilling words:

This is a deadly serious business. I hope I'm wrong, but something smells rotten.

*snip*

So far, Obama has granted himself the right to control all transportation, including highways, airports, seaports, and railroads, and all modes of communication, storage facilities, electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; ammo; anymeans; bhofascism; bhotreason; bhotyranny; bloodoftyrants; byanymeansnecessary; curry; cw2; election; elections; govtabuse; govtammo; jerrycurry; majgencurry; obama; onetermobama; treason; tyranny
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If you pray, please pray incessantly for our dear nation.

"..and an Angel in the whirlwind still directs this storm"

1 posted on 08/21/2012 12:39:16 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

..Bump and pray ..


2 posted on 08/21/2012 12:44:03 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

What I fear is he will be a sore loser (narcissists hate to be unloved) and will do all sorts of ugly shenanagans in his last few months.

Remember Slick Willie and all his pardons and disdainful acts in his last few months in office.

And his staff took out the “W”s in all the keyboards in the WH before George W Bush moved in.

Bork Obunga’s Regime will trash the place and make it very difficult for Mitt Romney.

Remember how much of a gentleman Bush was in the transition? Not a chance with cowards like Obunga!


3 posted on 08/21/2012 12:50:09 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: STARWISE

Bump, Pray, Donate to FreeRepublic.com!


4 posted on 08/21/2012 12:51:34 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: STARWISE

I’m pessimistic about any “transition.” If anything, it will be transition from shadow government to all-out Communism.


5 posted on 08/21/2012 12:56:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: STARWISE
Starwise, I already couldn't sleep tonight...now it's guaranteed I'll be watching the sun rise.

Dear Lord in Heaven, help us.

This is a MUST-read for every American.

Thank you for posting.

6 posted on 08/21/2012 1:03:02 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: wastedyears; AlanGreenSpam; All

Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?
Published: 9:40 AM 08/17/2012
By Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)

Excerpt - must read entirely

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls.

This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/who-does-the-government-intend-to-shoot/#ixzz24AKtbKTz


7 posted on 08/21/2012 1:04:52 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Ping for later...


8 posted on 08/21/2012 1:11:16 AM PDT by bayliving (What do you wanna bet that democrats go home at night and punch their pillows before they go to bed?)
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To: Miss Behave
Starwise, I already couldn't sleep tonight...now it's guaranteed I'll be watching the sun rise. Dear Lord in Heaven, help us. This is a MUST-read for every American. Thank you for posting.

You've prayed, now trust.

The real prayer isn't the words, nor the heartfelt expression of fear.

Those are just the preliminaries.

The real prayer is the act of letting go, and trusting in God's protection.

When you do that, you can sleep.

9 posted on 08/21/2012 1:15:03 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: STARWISE

Blah, Blah, Blah...

While it’s alarming that so many agencies have armed personnel and I’d be real confused if they kicked down my door bottom line is when Barry’s term is up, his time is up and he will go back to Chicago and maybe we get a real bonus with him going back to Kenya, so he can hang out with his cousin.


10 posted on 08/21/2012 1:20:05 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: wastedyears

Anyone read the comments below this article ? Some serious exchanges going on.


11 posted on 08/21/2012 1:21:16 AM PDT by imemyself
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To: Talisker

Thank you, Talisker.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 1:24:41 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: imemyself

bump


13 posted on 08/21/2012 1:24:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Miss Behave

: )


14 posted on 08/21/2012 1:28:57 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: STARWISE

This is a rewrite of articles written in 2000 when conspiracy types obscessed about Clinton refusing to leave the WH.


15 posted on 08/21/2012 1:35:08 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: STARWISE
Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?

No need to be alarmed. The govt is most likely not going to shoot ANYBODY.

No, like guns/Mexico, US-stuff/Gaza when taken over, the govt will just get these bullets into the hands of people that can do the actual shooting.

16 posted on 08/21/2012 1:37:20 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: STARWISE
Wargaming a Tea Party takeover of a city hall when we already had a liberal takeover of a state Capitol building?

-PJ

17 posted on 08/21/2012 1:38:48 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: STARWISE
..Bump and pray ..

Think most of us are doing that STAR and a lot of us have the means and will to defend also, if need be.

18 posted on 08/21/2012 1:44:18 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: STARWISE

Tx for this - I’ve been watching other reports.


19 posted on 08/21/2012 2:06:08 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: STARWISE; null and void
Thanks for posting this. If you didn't, I intended to. This piece needs to be read in its entirety.

Nully: I'm pretty sure SW already sent this to you, but just in case, this should be a big time NJCT Ping.

20 posted on 08/21/2012 2:13:53 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: STARWISE

If Israel attacks Iran in October, I could see this dickhead trying to use it as a reason to forgo any negative election results and try to retain power.

I’m sure an “Executive Order” has already been written to cover a wide variety of events.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 2:31:24 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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To: wastedyears

Maybe it was a “shadow government” that got him elected in the first place.


23 posted on 08/21/2012 2:40:45 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: STARWISE

during the transition from Clinton to Bush II Clintons juveniles wrecked the place.
Can’t begin to contemplate how obammy’s people will leave things, IF they leave.


24 posted on 08/21/2012 2:41:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
This is a rewrite of articles written in 2000 when conspiracy types obscessed about Clinton refusing to leave the WH.

It wasn't even a close election , Bob Dole?

25 posted on 08/21/2012 2:47:45 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

I fear your right. Whether he loses or not, I suspect one of the 1st orders of business after Nov. 7th, will be to sign an executive order for an AW Ban. He’s been holding back on this issue because of Democrats in congress being pressured by 2nd Ammendment constituents at home, but it will be Katy-Bar-The-Door after this time. Even more frustrating, if by some chance Romney wins(I have my doubts), Romney probably will not have the courage to reverse it.


26 posted on 08/21/2012 3:13:44 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: beenaround; STARWISE

“This is a rewrite of articles written in 2000 when conspiracy types obscessed about Clinton refusing to leave the WH.”

I was around and remember that too.
However, I DON’T recall the gubmint stocking up on millions of HOLLOW POINT rounds!
Not useful for anything else than killing people.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 3:35:25 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: vanilla swirl

You’re right about that.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 3:44:26 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: STARWISE

It’s all very plausible, given the flurry of executive orders he has issued particularly within the last year, and that congress has done nothing about those orders. He has tested his limits and found he doesn’t have any. So what would stop him from just taking ove


29 posted on 08/21/2012 3:44:52 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: STARWISE
I don't think it's Barack personally- I think he hates being President and all the hassle that goes with it. I think he likes the lifestyle (free vacations, golf outings, free dinners at the finest restaurants, etc.). However, it's his handlers and the Democrats in Congress that want him to desperately cling to power, and THEY'LL be the ones that try something if something's actually done.

To tell the truth, the "won't let go of his power" thing has been around for a long time. Bedwetting flagburners were claiming that Ronald Reagan wouldn't leave peacefully.

30 posted on 08/21/2012 3:57:46 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: STARWISE

>>If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

Geez. Did Sarah Brady write this crap? All bullets are lethal. Would it be OK if they bought .45 ACP hardball? While it is alamring that NOAA and the SSA have armed agents, the truth is that the 174,000 rounds are for 295 officers (approx 700 rounds per officer) and the annual range qualification for a federal officer uses about that many rounds.

The sad reality is that Obama’s work is done here. The economy is in a shambles, race relations are at a new low, the military is infested with “loud and proud” sodomites, and America is weakened in the eyes of allies and enemies. Why would he want to keep the reins of this country when the UN is probably planning to make him the next Sec-Gen prior to his coronation as king of the world.

I’m more concerned with what millions of unemployed and angry “Holder’s People” will do when their messiah loses than what 295 SSA and 75 NOAA officers will do. Obama promised them that America would be the new South Africa or Zimbabwe and that’s a promise that he didn’t deliver.


31 posted on 08/21/2012 3:59:34 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: scooby321
"This is a rewrite of articles written in 2000 when conspiracy types obscessed about Clinton refusing to leave the WH."

Whew, that's a relief! It sure is a good thing there aren't any active actual conspiracies connected to our current pResident.

By Any Means Necessary.

Just because these enemies of the Republic have proven too inept to successfully implement (all of) their nefarious schemes does not mean that the have abandoned such aspirations. They got "Obama" elected and coddled through going on four years "in office" despite would-be scandals that would have nuked any other presidency onto the ash heap of history, and in short order, didn't they?

These people are literally capable of anything that they are allowed to get away with, and from where I'm sitting, they're getting with a breathtaking number of unconstitutional things that it would appear only the electorate has a chance of halting. If, that is, the electorate is actually heeded.

We'll see. I hope that rumors of the demise of the Rule of Law are proven premature, and America will survive and come away from the "Obama" experience with a renewed love of country and our founding principles.

First though, we have to survive "Obama" handling the levers of Executive power.

32 posted on 08/21/2012 4:00:30 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: STARWISE

I’m with you STARWISE, and I’m suspicious too, but who will shoot these bullets into people? Will the US military shoot at fellow citizens - especially on the orders of a ‘president’ that most of them dislike?

OTOH, nothing surprises me anymore........

Yes, we have to pray for our country.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 4:07:46 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: STARWISE

Any government needing that much weaponry and ammunition in it’s agencies, has overstepped its natural boundaries


34 posted on 08/21/2012 4:13:00 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Talisker
The real prayer is the act of letting go, and trusting in God's protection. When you do that, you can sleep.

Amen to that!

35 posted on 08/21/2012 4:22:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: sneakers
"I’m with you STARWISE, and I’m suspicious too, but who will shoot these bullets into people? Will the US military shoot at fellow citizens - especially on the orders of a ‘president’ that most of them dislike?"

Obama has been aggressively remaking our military and turning it into a much more leftist organization. The old guard is being driven out and the Muslims, pink mafia and Obama loyal command structure installed. Much of the new military might well fire on US citizens who oppose their Dear Leader IMO.

36 posted on 08/21/2012 4:23:13 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: STARWISE
The worst case possible is this is part of the preparation for the “Black Awakening”, a satanic helter-skelter that may be just around the corner.

‘’In this twilight of human history darkness burns its black flame. Soon it will all erupt and fear will fly as the bloodshed begins. The ‘Black Awakening’ will occur! For them, those who served this long cold secret it has to, its the only way to give the world a desperate reason. A willing but painful reason for the need of a new world order and of a leader who will rule with a power that only the ancients felt.’’

Pastor Russ Dizdar has a fascinating website at shatterthedarkness.net for more information.

37 posted on 08/21/2012 4:26:25 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: beenaround
This is a rewrite of articles written in 2000 when conspiracy types obscessed about Clinton refusing to leave the WH.

Sure, Slick was pretty questionable, and there was plenty of reason not to trust him, but did he have the DHS? (no)

Was there a huge ammunition order for domestic agencies? (again, no.)

Nor had Slick Willie commented that he 'wanted a private army, as well trained and equipped as the US Army'

Those factors may well indicate cause for concern.

38 posted on 08/21/2012 4:27:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: STARWISE
*** If you pray, please pray incessantly for our dear nation. ***
"... and an Angel in the whirlwind still directs this storm"
One of my faves...

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,
be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him we humbly pray, and do thou, O heavenly hosts,
by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.
Amen.

There's a longer version but this suffices just fine :-)
39 posted on 08/21/2012 4:29:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: MachIV

He can’t do an AW ban by executive order. A law has to be passed by the legislature for that. He would have no authority to enforce it. I don’t doubt that he might do some silly crap before leaving the WH, that won’t be one the things he’s likely to try.


40 posted on 08/21/2012 4:35:42 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: STARWISE
Good morning.

Reading this makes me wonder if the Founding Fathers were so prescient that they knew we would need the Third amendment in the 21st century.

Or if you're Joe Biden, the 20th century.

5.56mm

41 posted on 08/21/2012 4:44:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: AlanGreenSpam

He’ll stop at nothing. The only way for him to insure a win is through fraud, martial law, force, you know...stuff he does all the time.


42 posted on 08/21/2012 4:51:12 AM PDT by albie
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To: STARWISE

43 posted on 08/21/2012 4:55:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: STARWISE

I would think this article was over-reacting except for the fact of all the executive orders and the stock-piling of ammunition. Those 2 things alone speak volumes of what they have planned for this country. Never mind all the little quips and comments about having a civilian army. I think the starting point will be when Israel hits Iran, that will throw some serious economic upheaval around and give Obama all he needs to start putting into action all the EO’s he’s been signing. He will cite the precedences listed in the article to say he needs to stay in power for the good of the country.


44 posted on 08/21/2012 4:58:26 AM PDT by eak3
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To: STARWISE

What is more worrisome is the fact that these purchases were “found out” and the cat was let out of the bag. How about the purchases we don’t know about?

The Marxists have done everything possible legally to disarm us so that they can have their way, and now we have entered the physical part of taking over the free people.


45 posted on 08/21/2012 5:00:06 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: STARWISE

It ain’t gonna happen. They might be foolish enough to try, but it will not be permitted to happen. Period.


46 posted on 08/21/2012 5:15:21 AM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: Quickgun
I don’t doubt that he might do some silly crap before leaving the WH, that won’t be one the things he’s likely to try.

Agreed.

If there's any "secret plan" going on here, it's most likely nothing more than the intention to defend government assets during a civil disturbance caused by a crashed economy.

You don't just stock pile bullets if your intent is a coup.

47 posted on 08/21/2012 5:19:35 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: firebasecody
It ain’t gonna happen. They might be foolish enough to try, but it will not be permitted to happen. Period.

There just ain't that many bureaucrats willing to die to keep Obama in power.....

48 posted on 08/21/2012 5:22:54 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: AlanGreenSpam
“Bork Obunga’s Regime will trash the place and make it very difficult for Mitt Romney.”

At the very least, the “O” team will bug the oval office.

Putting “O” in the WH, Liberals have covered us all with s&^t!

Along with all his other tasks, Mitt will have to rehabilitate the imgae of America and Americans.

49 posted on 08/21/2012 5:26:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: STARWISE

No!
IF Obama loses the election under the current election rules in place, (i.e. Electoral College defeat), he will leave.

You may have whining about Popular Vote, IF it is close, but it will stop at whining.

Any attempts by this administration to stay in office by force of power, will be defeated.
It doesn’t matter how much ammo they’ve ordered, there aren’t enough trained paper pushers to use it effectively.
And there aren’t enough compliant military and law enforcement to implement any such unlawful orders.


50 posted on 08/21/2012 5:31:05 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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