Posted on 08/21/2012 4:23:14 PM PDT by CaptainK
After Mitt Romney selected his vice presidential running mate, and just days before the political conventions kick off next week, President Barack Obama maintains his advantage in the race for the White House, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
A Democratic ticket featuring Obama and Vice President Joe Biden gets support from 48 percent of registered voters, and a Republican ticket of Romney and new running mate Paul Ryan gets 44 percent.
These numbers are only slightly changed from July, when Obama led Romney by six points in the survey, 49 percent to 43 percent, suggesting a minimal bounce for Romney (if at all) after this month’s Ryan pick.
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In the event Obama is re-elected, his State of the Union Speech will begin with:
“Comrades, in 2008 we were standing on an edge of deep abyss. Since then, we’ve taken a significant step forward...”
NBC’s sample of 45-D 39-R and 16-I is absurd.
I’m nothing but an anecdote, but every time a pollster calls me I hang up. I think a lot of R’s hang up. It will be a landslide.
I think what hit Romney, was the realization by a segment of the population that Ryan was not the nominee...so, in comparison to Ryan, Romney looked bad, causing a short-term dip....however, this was not reflected in Gallup so who knows....
The +6 gap isn’t bad enough.. Indepedants are strongly under represented in this by more than 15%!
Independents were 29% in 2012! They went 52-44 for Obama over McCain. Independents are overwhelmingly breaking for Romney this time. This is where they are hiding Romney votes! They are covering up the independents.
Look at Independents! 13% Indepedents? Independents are always around 30% of the vote! That’s where they are hiding Romney votes.
I’ll give them a 6% Dem advantage, they would still lose with the way Indies are breaking against Obama!
Could have been just a 1 or 2 day bad sample. Every outfit is showing Romney gains in state polling.
NBC/WSJ is the preferred “media” outlet for most potheads and drug addicts. The communist party USA loves it.
Makes me wonder if the country is worth saving sometimes. If half the people in it still support Obama,Maybe the center of the country does need to secede, and Leave the nation of New Somalia to their utopia..
Just subjected to another phone poll - prerecorded questions and keypad choices. What fun - now strongly supporting Romney and Mandel (Ohio Senate) - keyed in as voting for Obama last election, stongly disapproving of his handling of economy and Obamacare - but most fun with selecting demographics - opposites on everything.
all this cr*p gives ‘em sumthin’ to sell
all this cr*p gives ‘em sumthin’ to sell
O’Reilly said on Glen Beck’s radio show, that if the election was held tomorrow, Romney would win, he has a secure hold on more than the 279 electoral votes that are needed. He said that this information comes from the internal polling of both campaigns and that is the reason that the Democrats are pulling out all the stops.
Then I just got an email from MoveOn.Org, saying that the NBC poll shows Obama with a very slight lead, but that he could still lose, (and this is the funny part) because the Romney camp plans to disenfranchise a lot of voters.
O’Reilly also said that the MSM plans to unleash a torrent of attacks on Romney and Ryan this week, during the convention and following on into the election.
Just got my notice from the WSJ that my renewal is up soon.
$450 for a one year subscription.
It will get canceled.
I am sick of the BS, too.
Hopefully, decent Americans will remember what the Chicago scumbags did to the Palin family in 2008 and decide not to let them get away with that again.
You expected something else from the Ministry of Propaganda?
This time around, it's going to come down to whether or not they have a job, is it a good job, a full-time job, with benefits, or how long has it been since they've had one of those. It will be how much it cost to put gas in the tank to get to the polls, and releasing the reserves won't do a thing, except for a momentary blip.
Feeling the mood out there. They may not be warm to Romney yet (and they are warming), but they are definitely sour on Obama.
I have over 900 facebook "friends", many of whom are mostly strangers who play the same couple games that I do. I see the stuff they post and repost. It's about 6:1:1 for Conservative values: pro-Obama values: Ron Paul in my news feed. Unscientific, for sure, but a good sign.
Way oversampled Dems.... LOL in fact it’s so bad that Obama getting 48 percent to Romney 44 percent means either Democrats are voting for Romney or almost all self proclaimed independents are voting for Romney according to their own poll who how do they spin this crap....
Strong Democrat 24
Not very strong Democrat 10
Independent/lean Democrat 11
Strictly Independent ..... 13
Independent/lean Republican 12
Not very strong Republican 9
Strong Republican ........ 18
Other (VOL) .............. 3
Not sure................. 1
Way oversampled Dems.... LOL in fact it’s so bad that Obama getting 48 percent to Romney 44 percent means either Democrats are voting for Romney or almost all self proclaimed independents are voting for Romney according to their own poll who how do they spin this crap....
Strong Democrat 24
Not very strong Democrat 10
Independent/lean Democrat 11
Strictly Independent ..... 13
Independent/lean Republican 12
Not very strong Republican 9
Strong Republican ........ 18
Other (VOL) .............. 3
Not sure................. 1
So, you guys think about that and forget what you are calling the "oversample".
In these polls they select their sample universe AFTER they call their 1000 or so randomly selected targets.
Here that means the people who were sampled claimed, unexpectedly, to have 5% more Democrats than you want to believe exist.
The type of poll where oversampling is a problem is when they set, a priori, a quota of a sort for how many Demos, Nutballs and Reps they want, then keep calling until they get that many.
That gives the pollster much more control of the outcome ~ and it's typical of the sort of poll party professionals come up with to push the public.
There's a far more expensive polling the pros use where they get a detailed poll in every election district that affects their candidate. It's full bore polling and isn't done often ~ usually the last two weeks of a campaign.
This kind, again, is good to see what the trendline is, and it says that no matter what Obama or Romney say, do or think about ~ the audience is not responding.
That's my RACE TO THE BOTTOM thesis. That both are unlikeable and unpopular and will continue to shed factions as time goes on ~ and in the end nobody's polls will be meaningful. We've never had a race like this one!
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